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Well i just got back from getting tuned today and i am very happy to say the least. Sean said this was one of, if not the highest hp numbers he has seen on stock injectors. He also was amazed at how strong the motor sounded and that there was NO PINGING, DETONATION or signs there of. All of this was run and tuned on 91 octane pump gas @ around 13:1 compression. Now if you feel the need to talk about how you think i put the wrong pistons in or the compression is too high for daily driving take it somewhere else, my motor runs very strong and doesn't detonate. Honestly if i wanted my motor to last over 100k miles i wouldn't modify it.

213.5 and 155 with:
stock port on the head
stock injectors which maxed out at 8k (picked up RC 440's)
a shitty shitty crush bent exhaust to an RSR exmag (picked up Buddy club spec II)
stock throttle body.

the set-up consists of:

<U>P72 Head</U>
TODA valve springs
Skunk2 Retainers
BLOX Competition HSL cams
Skunk2 pro series cam gears
Blox Intake Manifold
AEM fuel rail
AEM FPR
5Zigen 4-2-1 one peice header with 2.5"
Password whale *****

<U>p72 Block</U>
Bored 82mm
RS Machine CTR pistons (82mm)
CTR crank pulley
ARP head studs
Stock headgasket
Greddy Catch can

Tuned on a p28 with Hondata S200

Going back in a few weeks with bigger injectors, buddy club spec II and an ITR cold air w/ velocity stack will update soon with the new numbers as well.

Special Thanks to:

Eddie (moneyshot) at RS Machine for the pistons and machine work

Mike (AMS_MIKE) at AMS for the header and VAFC2 tune

Church Automotive Testing for the tune

Mike at Plan B Motorsports for all the help

Video of the final run: http://www.we-todd-did-racing....5NTQx









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thats really good considering this<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dohcMONSTER &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">stock port on the head
stock injectors which maxed out at 8k
a shitty shitty crush bent exhaust to an RSR exmag
stock throttle body.</TD></TR></TABLE>

 

WOW. Your header/injectors/82mm ctr pistons/P72 head/HSL cams....damn man, I'm SO surprised you made that much power. I can't believe there is no piston/valve contact!? Props to you and Sean!

 

thats good numbers, epecially the 155 trq should be around 104-105 trap speeds. thing must rip

 

Great numbers.

Do you have the specs of those cams handy?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by KINGSOL18 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">thats really good considering this </TD></TR></TABLE>

thanks

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by clean rice &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">WOW. Your header/injectors/82mm ctr pistons/P72 head/HSL cams....damn man, I'm SO surprised you made that much power. I can't believe there is no piston/valve contact!? Props to you and Sean! </TD></TR></TABLE>

thanks a lot, i did a lot of research and took my time building this motor. I'm really glad we didn't need to retard the timing at all because of detonation.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mx621 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">thats good numbers, epecially the 155 trq should be around 104-105 trap speeds. thing must rip</TD></TR></TABLE>

should be out at the track soon....

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Combustion Contraption &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Great numbers.

Do you have the specs of those cams handy?</TD></TR></TABLE>

intake duration: 255 @ 0.05 in. Lift 0.496
exhaust duration 256 @ 0.05 in. Lift: 0.494

Cam gear: Intake: +1 to +2
Exhaust: zero

Fuel Pressure: +3-5 over stock

 

Once again good numbers.

One of the reasons you're not audibly detonating is because of the high lift of those cams, .496 (12.6mm) is nothing to sneeze at.

Have fun

 

great numbers..
but i think you can definately squeeze out more power with the parts you had mentioned.
also...really think about porting the head.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Viorent Grip! EG &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">great numbers..
but i think you can definately squeeze out more power with the parts you had mentioned.
also...really think about porting the head. </TD></TR></TABLE>

way ahead of you, parts are already on order

 

nice man

when you go to track (drags) Let me know, I want to smoke you.

 

Congrats
There is definitely more in that motor

 

**** load of torque. how come i didnt get a a/f printout from church

 

Well done.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by clean rice &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">WOW. Your header/injectors/82mm ctr pistons/P72 head/HSL cams....damn man, I'm SO surprised you made that much power. I can't believe there is no piston/valve contact!? Props to you and Sean! </TD></TR></TABLE>

has a car ever made less than 200whp on churches dyno???

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Hella_JDM &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

has a car ever made less than 200whp on churches dyno???</TD></TR></TABLE>
sure thing....just alot of people dont boast about their numbers that are under 200whp
I've seen a couple Church graphs where nice set ups make well under 200

 

another 8-10hp is only a rage header and an exhaust away

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by xDEFTONESx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">another 8-10hp is only a rage header and an exhaust away</TD></TR></TABLE>

i know, anyone have one for sale? haha

 

I went with dohcMONSTER to churches, cuz his car is like my car and the other way around. Anything done to our cars has been done by both of us.

We spent every minute making sure there would be no problems at all. Piston to valve clearance and so on. It was very exciting for us to hear all the comments Sean had to say. Thanks again to Sean and the guy that dynoed it (forgot his name but he kicked ***)

Good numbers Anfonizzle...that's how we roll

 

wow....awesome power.

mike and anthony at plan B

 

good numbers but too bad its in a heavy car so your et wont be that low but youll have fun driving it..

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Hella_JDM &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">has a car ever made less than 200whp on churches dyno???</TD></TR></TABLE>

The hate is strong with this one.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 2SlowJr. &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">**** load of torque. how come i didnt get a a/f printout from church</TD></TR></TABLE>

Did you ask for one?

 

good numbers man...let me know when you get rid of you tranny.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dohcMONSTER &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Sean said this was one of, if not the highest hp numbers he has seen on stock injectors. </TD></TR></TABLE>

this is where i'm stuck. right now my crome'd b16a2 with CTR pistons feels better/stronger/faster with the stock injectors and stock IM. I would imagine there is more room to grow with my Blox IM and rc310's. Even tho the a/f was good with the blox IM/310s', for some reason my car feels stronger with the stock im/injectors.

*what is the highest RPM stock injectors can handle?
*at what point does one step up from stock injectors to 310's, and why?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Viorent Grip! EG &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
sure thing....just alot of people dont boast about their numbers that are under 200whp
I've seen a couple Church graphs where nice set ups make well under 200
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You have the black Eg w/ white MF10L's right. I heard the good numbers from your car as well with the new head.
Sean @ Church does a great job w/ Hondata.