lsvtec or gsr?

i know lsvtecs have a little more torque than gsr's which could be useful, but i hear that lsvtec builds are expensive and prone to problems. i'm shooting for around 180/130. anyone with lsvtec/gsr builds with around 180/130 have prices for the whole build? i'm looking to spend around 5k for the engine/build.

motor will be going in an '88 CRX HF. which would be a better route, money/reliability wise? i like the lsvtec b/c of the extra torque but i kind of want to go the gsr route for reliability. p.s. i've searched for quite a while now, the red button is my friend.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by omg_an_ef8 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">lsvtec or gsr?

i know lsvtecs have a little more torque than gsr's which could be useful, but i hear that lsvtec builds are expensive and prone to problems. i'm shooting for around 180/130. anyone with lsvtec/gsr builds with around 180/130 have prices for the whole build? i'm looking to spend around 5k for the engine/build.

motor will be going in an '88 CRX HF. which would be a better route, money/reliability wise? i like the lsvtec b/c of the extra torque but i kind of want to go the gsr route for reliability. p.s. i've searched for quite a while now, the red button is my friend. </TD></TR></TABLE>

there both reliable as long as you build them good. dont half *** anything on it, do it right the first time and an ls/v will be as reliable as a gsr.

the ls/v might be a little cheaper depending on what internals you use, and the 88 HF is a nice light shell to put it in!

good luck on w.e route you go!

 

For reliability, it is hard to bet a gsr.

 

I agree with b18 CYA. Ls/Vtecs can last just as long as most honda engines out there long as nothing is half assed im running an ls/vtec not a problem. Its all in the way its built,and the way its tuned. Peace!

 

bbb

 

For your goals both will be able to reach it with ease, me I lean towards the lsvtec but the GSR will work just as well.

 

thanks for the input guys. which one would cost less to pull 180/130 out of though? b/c i dont want to build a bulletproof ls/vtec b/c i'm only looking for 180/130, not like 220/150. for my goals which would be more cost effective?

 

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i would like to know also

 

OR, you could do a h22a swap in it, just got my swap for about 3300 including everything you need and baseline should put out around 170-175whp with just a decent exhaust and intake, u could do an smsp header which is about 900-1000 for a good gain and also do hondata s300 for a good tune and their u go with 180whp and crazy *** torque.

PS. it dont get more reliable then that, pretty much a stock motor

 

IMO, LS/VTEC. More torque = more horsepower.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DJsilkyjr &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">OR, you could do a h22a swap in it, just got my swap for about 3300 including everything you need and baseline should put out around 170-175whp with just a decent exhaust and intake, u could do an smsp header which is about 900-1000 for a good gain and also do hondata s300 for a good tune and their u go with 180whp and crazy *** torque.

PS. it dont get more reliable then that, pretty much a stock motor</TD></TR></TABLE>

Says the guy trying to sell his motor^^

 

I'll sell you my motor for 5000 grand haha..

shot peen rods ctr pistons, y1 lsd tranny, ported head, supertech springs & retainers, rs machine cams, p28 ecu, new lenso rims and new m/h slicks... and lots more..

 

Wow... you're cool

 

are you near rlz engineering?
i would contact brad @ rlz engineering for some info

 

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ctr pistons, </TD></TR></TABLE>

Hahaha, good luck.

 

i would also like to know cause i have a stock gsr motor right now and thinking about selling it to buy a lsvtec motor, stock ls block w/ arp head studs and built gsr head. would this pull more than my gsr motor?

 

if you have a stock ls block, most likely a gs-r will pull on that motor..if both motors and cars were the same.

 

b20vtec is where its at. not any moer expensive than poormans r or ls/vtec build. 2.0L, do it.

 

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...If you like having a low-compression all motor engine.

Aftermarket pistons for higher compression = $$$

 

Not always true. 84mm ITR pistons aren't that much.

 

True, the RS Machines ITR's are a god-send.

 

I say GSR. Its easier, more reliable IMO, and you can gain 180/130 no problem. And since you have $5000, you can obviously afford it.

 

I SPENT ABOUT 3K ON MY PRETTY SIMPLE GSR BUILD AND MADE 207WHP
PLUS U CAN REV HIGHER W. A GSR

 

you can rev just as high in a LS/VTEC

 

My LSVTEC revs higher than my buddy's GSR.

 

well if you have five grand to spend you can make 200whp or more pretty easily i guess i would go with the ls vtec and use ctr pistons and like bc4 cams and a good header the reason i say that u should do ls vtec is the cost of the ls block its usually found pretty cheap i made 211whp for less than five grand so you can do it with no prob