i know you guys are interested in this ****. i was doing some searching around on the net and i found these.



more info


a great alternative to gm solenoid's or the more expensive solenoids. these are the same solenoids being sold with the popular NLR boost controller.


let me know what you all think.




Modified by Dturbocivic at 8:51 PM 4/3/2006

 

the "more info" link just goes to the pic.

 

http://airinc.thomasnet.com/vi...ard=1

 

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a great alternative to gm solenoid's or the more expensive solenoids. these are the same solenoids being sold with the popular NLR boost controller.


let me know what you all think.

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my gm boost solenoid was like 12 bucks from the gm dealership. didnt really think they went for more than 20 or so bucks

 

Anyone know if the above, or the GM solenoid work as replacements for like the Apexi AVCR? are they fairly universal, at worst requiring a little reworking of duty cycles?

 

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nope...not a chance...did a lot of looking before...i ended up coughin up the $125ish to horsepower freaks...

 

I thought the valve in EBCs was dramatically different than the one you have shown. I really don't know much about EBC's and how exactly they function, but I have a feeling the solenoid will not work with most EBCs.

 

i got one just like that!!!!
i've had it for years. 1 in goes straight from intake mani to wg, other goes from intake mani, through manual boost controller, and then to wg.
2 boost settings at the flick of a switch!

 

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i've had it for years. 1 in goes straight from intake mani to wg, other goes from intake mani, through manual boost controller, and then to wg.
2 boost settings at the flick of a switch!</TD></TR></TABLE>

I used an oem purge cut solenoid for this. Pulled the unused one off my manifold and boom

I can't remember if it burnt out or not.... but I pulled it when going EBC.

 

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I used an oem purge cut solenoid for this. Pulled the unused one off my manifold and boom

I can't remember if it burnt out or not.... but I pulled it when going EBC.</TD></TR></TABLE>
hmm i thought the purge selenoid only was only a 2port one way? how did you do this??
thanks

 

Looks like the same solenoids the Innovative MSBC1 uses.

 

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its a 3 port, bottom, side and the top is under that little filter. I just ran power to it to switch over.

 

nice hyjack

 

It is also very similar to the one that comes with the Turbosmart Eboost 2.

 

Thanks for posting that!

 

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I was just showing the actual usage of that type of solenoid. I'm not ultra familiar with how EBC's work but I don't believe they are just open and close solenoids like this one. From what I understand they partially open/close so the WG doesn't go opening and closing violently allowing irregular boost control. I'm sure it depends on the paticular unit, but this is my understanding. Having a very similiar valve in my hand, I figured I would attempt to suggest taking another look and validating this type of solenoid would work.

 

Electronic boost controllers send a PWM signal to the soleniod. That solenoid should work fine with most engine management systems that do boost control.

 

the GM unit retails for $20.64 BTW......

 

i like this one better because it is threaded. which means i can use an fittings and braided line.. or hard line

 

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Damn, I wish it worked with Neptune

 

The GM unit has a min. usefull duty cycle of around 15% and max of around 85%, so it can't provide quite as much control as a 0-100% solenoid. I went from a GM soleniod to an Apexi solenoid on my race car and it made a HUGE difference in how well it controls boost.

 

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its a 3 port, bottom, side and the top is under that little filter. I just ran power to it to switch over.</TD></TR></TABLE>

ahha, im gonna give that sucker a shot!

 

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You can use this type with any fuel management that has 12v output configurations.

All these solinoids are good for are being used as a 'gate,' switching between preset PSI. No fuzzy logic.

 

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exactly.

its a nicer looking piece than the gm solenoid as well.

 

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You can use this type with any fuel management that has 12v output configurations.

All these solinoids are good for are being used as a 'gate,' switching between preset PSI. No fuzzy logic.</TD></TR></TABLE>

You would have to use like four of them