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Old Mar 9, 2006 | 01:24 PM
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i need help ASAP. Fresh build wont start. OBD0-OBD1 Kenji Harness, Kenji P28. i have little spark and seems to be gettin fuel but it wont start for the life of it i have no idea...
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Old Mar 9, 2006 | 01:31 PM
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What about compression
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Old Mar 9, 2006 | 01:37 PM
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dont have a tester but how could i be losing compression if it was just built never ran
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Old Mar 9, 2006 | 01:40 PM
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Rings were installed wrong
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Old Mar 9, 2006 | 01:42 PM
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possibly rings installed wrong but i doubt it. is it turning over fine? it just doesnt have that spark to start? check the grounds by the thermostat, tranny. make sure you sand them down and then tighten back up
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Old Mar 9, 2006 | 02:02 PM
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check grounds and codes....wiring is almost always the issure...check to make sure teh cam and crank are both at TDC at the same time....make sure you got the right spark plugs in the right holes....if unsure which is for cylinder # 1 set teh engine to TDC and take the cap off the dizzy and see where it is pointing this will be # 1.....check all connections....
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Old Mar 9, 2006 | 03:34 PM
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all my grounds at the thermo are good the only thing i could think of is my dizzy harness but even still i got it right and it threw a code 9 which is cylinder sensor but i have no idea why **** is so confusing
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Old Mar 9, 2006 | 09:16 PM
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code 9 would not keep your car from starting...mine threw a code 9 for over a year and ran great...I just finally figured out what it was.....what about tranny ground...or the one on the valve cover are they good?
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Old Mar 9, 2006 | 09:45 PM
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main reaaly could have crapped out try a different one of those

is it new or old distrutor, make sure there is a rotor in the dizzy!! personal experience

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Old Mar 9, 2006 | 09:54 PM
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I second the suggestion to check your spark plug wires. I've had the wrong timing with a new motor 3 times ...
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Old Mar 9, 2006 | 10:03 PM
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check all your timing, main reley, dizzy might have gone bad itself, they go bad for **** reasons sometimes. check your wiring, me and my buddies have had our deal of no starts and its been wiring 75% of the time. check by the ecu make sure u did the converswion rite..
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Old Mar 10, 2006 | 04:54 AM
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ok well the conversion harness was bought off of Kenji, all of my engine grounds are on and i even have a ground kit for extra ones my main relay click twice and i hear the fuel pump prime, yes the dizzy is fine i put it on my bros car and worked great.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by thursday &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I second the suggestion to check your spark plug wires. I've had the wrong timing with a new motor 3 times ...</TD></TR></TABLE>
Wut do ur spakr plug wires have anything to do with timing...lol
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Old Mar 10, 2006 | 05:20 AM
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Well with everything else checked out and as strange as this may sound, check the valve lash and adjust them. I did a build and dissambled the head. When I put it back together I was not aware that the valves were tight so even if my timing was dead on and I was getting spark and fuel, it would not start. Someone told me to check the valve clearence and in doing so I adjusted the whole thing. Sure enough it started on the first try!
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Old Mar 10, 2006 | 05:26 AM
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what engine/dist are you using?
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Old Mar 10, 2006 | 05:27 AM
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i checked all that when assembling the motor, but i doubt that has anything to do with it turning over,,,jsut cranks and cranks
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Old Mar 10, 2006 | 08:15 PM
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i just rebuilt a motor and i cant getting it running right. anyways, did you make sure the thermostat is grouned right. and also tranny. check all grounds
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Old Mar 10, 2006 | 08:17 PM
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yeah i just looked at the topic again. you have checked everything. anyways for the obvious. spark and fuel? pulll the plugs again and take a look. they might be wet?
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Old Mar 10, 2006 | 10:04 PM
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1. Check for spark.

2. Check for fuel.

3. If you have both, check your timing.

4. If timing is correct, and firing order correct, and it is not trying to backfire through the throttle body, then check your compression.


It's really that simple. Step by step. Getting it running or acting like it wants to run is most important.

If it is getting spark and fuel, and the timing is correct it should at least act like it wants to start.

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Old Mar 10, 2006 | 10:21 PM
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Old Mar 11, 2006 | 07:12 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Cuda70 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">1. Check for spark.

2. Check for fuel.

3. If you have both, check your timing.

4. If timing is correct, and firing order correct, and it is not trying to backfire through the throttle body, then check your compression.


It's really that simple. Step by step. Getting it running or acting like it wants to run is most important.

If it is getting spark and fuel, and the timing is correct it should at least act like it wants to start.

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ok i think it is tryin to backfire from the TB whats that supposed to mean???
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Old Mar 11, 2006 | 07:38 AM
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huh? ok first thing did you check spark and fuel? then are you positive you hooked up if the timing belt right? becuase i had so much assembly grease and oil on my cylinder walls my plugs were really oily after running it for about a minute. so they were not getting a very good spark. infact at some times it was only running on 2 cylinders. so i kept having to put new plugs in. now they are dry but still kinda black. once i can get my car running normal then ill just let it idle for a while and burn that all off
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Old Mar 11, 2006 | 09:02 AM
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ok so i checked for spark i get spark but my plugs are being flooded with fuel????
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Old Mar 11, 2006 | 09:10 AM
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You need fuel, spark, and compression in order for an engine to run.

You have fuel, and you have spark, check your timing but if you rebuilt the engine I would worry about the rings not sealing before mixing up the timing.
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Old Mar 11, 2006 | 09:18 AM
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motor wasnt run for more than a minute yet...i mean im wonderin if i dont have enough spark because of how theyu are being flooded...brand new rings and hone job so i should have compression...even if it was bad should be enough to run the motor right
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Old Mar 11, 2006 | 09:26 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Rukusmasta2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">brand new rings and hone job so i should have compression...even if it was bad should be enough to run the motor right</TD></TR></TABLE>

So did the engine start at all ? I would run a compression test to know for sure that is good. And make sure you are getting good spark, if you engine is getting flooded to soon find out why.
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