Do you guys know if it is okay to use lightweight aftermarket lug nuts on my oem wheels??

I don't know if it might mess up the lugs or whatever..

 

i dont know if its gonna mess anything up... but i use aftermarket lugs on my oem wheels back then....everything seems fine..

 

well....oem wheels accept acorn (rounded) lug nuts, and most aftermarket lug nuts are tapered. you can NOT mix and match.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by LSvtec03 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">well....oem wheels accept acorn (rounded) lug nuts, and most aftermarket lug nuts are tapered. you can NOT mix and match. </TD></TR></TABLE>

well, you can, but you shouldn't.

 

oem swirleez with rays closed end lug nuts is what i wanna do soon & change center to 'H"

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Cliffjumper2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

well, you can, but you shouldn't.</TD></TR></TABLE>
yes, you technically can, if you're okay with your wheels falling off.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by LSvtec03 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
yes, you technically can, if you're okay with your wheels falling off. </TD></TR></TABLE>

that was my point; they won't fall off immediately, but eventually

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by R-81DC2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">oem swirleez with rays closed end lug nuts is what i wanna do soon & change center to 'H"</TD></TR></TABLE>

I'd suggest you not rock this as an everyday setup as it's not safe. But you can always throw them on in this setup for show if you really want to do it.

 

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im sorry but this is just one of those thing that bother me when people say this,

acorn is not the seat of the lug nut, most honda's come with a acorn Ball seat lug nut. acorn is the head style, you can have a acorn conical seat lug nut that would not work on a honda.

seating surfaces

ball seat
conical seat
mag seat
im sure there are a few others but these are the main ones

head syles

acorn
open ended
tuner (spline)
hex, along with various other ones

im not trying to start a e-fight or anything, just one of those things that bother ,e


and to answer the op's question, the only way you can use light weight lug nuts safely on a honda oem wheel is if they are ball seat

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by B18B-SC &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">im sorry but this is just one of those thing that bother me when people say this,

acorn is not the seat of the lug nut, most honda's come with a acorn Ball seat lug nut. acorn is the head style, you can have a acorn conical seat lug nut that would not work on a honda.

seating surfaces

ball seat
conical seat
mag seat
im sure there are a few others but these are the main ones

head syles

acorn
open ended
tuner (spline)
hex, along with various other ones

im not trying to start a e-fight or anything, just one of those things that bother ,e


and to answer the op's question, the only way you can use light weight lug nuts safely on a honda oem wheel is if they are ball seat</TD></TR></TABLE>

do you have any pictures of how a ball seat looks like??

 

here you go guys:

http://www.daliracing.com/v666...s.pdf

 

Lightweight aftermarket lugnuts on stock wheels...

Just wow.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by KooK &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Lightweight aftermarket lugnuts on stock wheels...

Just wow.</TD></TR></TABLE>

and by that he means:

what is the point of using lightweight lugnuts if you haven't/aren't going to reduce the weight of your wheels first.

sorry if something was lost in translation

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Cliffjumper2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">and by that he means:

what is the point of using lightweight lugnuts if you haven't/aren't going to reduce the weight of your wheels first.

sorry if something was lost in translation </TD></TR></TABLE>

More or less, we (Honda people) are the only group of people who, from the factory, have what seems to be near aircraft quality cars, and become so meticulous that we worry about how much the lugnuts weigh; at the end of the day, we're still slow.

Freaking really people, save it for a tank of gas or something.

 

i using spoon lug nuts on my itr rims for over a year now...everything seems fine...so i guess its ok...

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JDM INSPIRED &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i using spoon lug nuts on my itr rims for over a year now...everything seems fine...so i guess its ok...</TD></TR></TABLE>

unless ur spoon lug nuts are ball seat, its not ok. thats just not the kinda risk im willing to take, to save a few pounds

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by KooK &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">More or less, we (Honda people) are the only group of people who, from the factory, have what seems to be near aircraft quality cars, and become so meticulous that we worry about how much the lugnuts weigh; at the end of the day, we're still slow.

Freaking really people, save it for a tank of gas or something.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Just to clear things up, the only reason why i'm wondering about this is because, I have some work rs lugs and i'm about to sell my wheels so I was wondering if I could use them on the stock wheels..

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JDM INSPIRED &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i using spoon lug nuts on my itr rims for over a year now...everything seems fine...so i guess its ok...</TD></TR></TABLE>

Everything will seem fine, then one day your wheel(s) may fall off.

Is it really worth the risk?

 

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Everything will seem fine, then one day your wheel(s) may fall off.

Is it really worth the risk? </TD></TR></TABLE>

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 99_dc2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Just to clear things up, the only reason why i'm wondering about this is because, I have some work rs lugs and i'm about to sell my wheels so I was wondering if I could use them on the stock wheels.. </TD></TR></TABLE>

no, you should always keep your set of stock lugs if you go with aftermarket wheels/lugs in the event you should have to go back to your stockers.

Just pick up a set of cheap steel, (but appropriately fitting), lugs from from pep boys to use while you have your stockers on. Just put the work lugnuts up for sale in the classifieds. Someone will buy them

unless you plan on going back to an aftermarket wheel and want to use them again

 

The reason you need to have the same shaped seating area on the lug nuts as on the wheels is so that there is contact throughout that area, where the force of the lug nut is applied to the wheel. If you use lug nuts whose seating area is a different shape from the seating area of the wheels, the contact is only along a circle, not across an area, and that can cause wear, enough to make the lug nut loose. Not a good idea.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 99_dc2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">do you have any pictures of how a ball seat looks like??</TD></TR></TABLE>

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nsxtasy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The reason you need to have the same shaped seating area on the lug nuts as on the wheels is so that there is contact throughout that area, where the force of the lug nut is applied to the wheel. If you use lug nuts whose seating area is a different shape from the seating area of the wheels, the contact is only along a circle, not across an area, and that can cause wear, enough to make the lug nut loose. Not a good idea.


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you can't get a better explanation than that for this thread's purposes

 

Would the same apply for wheels that aren't from another honda? I have some vw rims on my car, and I'm using my oem lugs. Now do I have to use tunner lugs? Because in sense they are aftermarket wheels, but they are also oem wheels. Just not for our cars.

 

you have to look up the lug seat type for that vw wheel.

 

So the only type of lug nuts you can use on your oem wheels are ball seat lug nuts like the factory ones

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Mr. One Lane &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Would the same apply for wheels that aren't from another honda? I have some vw rims on my car, and I'm using my oem lugs.</TD></TR></TABLE>

You should always use lug nuts that have the same shaped seating area as the wheels.

I don't know whether the seating area on VW rims is ball-shaped or tapered. Whichever one they are, use lug nuts with the same shaped seating area. (If you're not sure, I find it's easier to determine by feeling the seating area with my fingertips than by looking at them.)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Mr. One Lane &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Now do I have to use tunner lugs? Because in sense they are aftermarket wheels, but they are also oem wheels. Just not for our cars.</TD></TR></TABLE>

You can get either kind of lug nut (ball shaped seating area or tapered seating area) at auto parts stores ($1.19 each at Autozone); you don't have to use special "tuner" lug nuts.