B16b+M22x+Spoon exhaust = xxx whp?? (dyno inside)
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uhmmm clean hatch...no i know why is "clean rice"
numbers wise...i dunno...check this out..https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1522007
he's stock...
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sounds similar to the B16 i built for a customer of mine.
173whp with m22s at 9200RPM is where they peaked
good stuff as always from robert. you cant really judge this motor until you get a real intake and exhaust on it. Def make more. good job man, B16s are hard to get good power out of
173whp with m22s at 9200RPM is where they peaked
good stuff as always from robert. you cant really judge this motor until you get a real intake and exhaust on it. Def make more. good job man, B16s are hard to get good power out of
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hj. »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">numbers wise...i dunno...check this out..https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1522007
he's stock... </TD></TR></TABLE>
That's my dyno there. I agree with this guy. Something's definitely holding you back. Maybe it is the stock intake and exhaust manifold?
Thanks for posting though, I'll look into those cams. B16B's all about top end power. Oh, and please resist the temptation. Don't boost that motor. 
Just playing, do what you want. B16Bs are great NA motors but they're not that rare anyways.
he's stock...
</TD></TR></TABLE>That's my dyno there. I agree with this guy. Something's definitely holding you back. Maybe it is the stock intake and exhaust manifold?
Thanks for posting though, I'll look into those cams. B16B's all about top end power.
Oh, and please resist the temptation. Don't boost that motor. Just playing, do what you want. B16Bs are great NA motors but they're not that rare anyways.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by WhoisDan »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> Why not run a SMS header over the Toda?</TD></TR></TABLE>
As far as I know Dave does not build a manifold for a 1.6, so thats why I said the Toda. I have yet to see a Toda beaten on a dyno in a 1.6 app.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hj. »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">uhmmm clean hatch...no i know why is "clean rice"
numbers wise...i dunno...check this out..https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1522007
he's stock... </TD></TR></TABLE>
Haha, thanks for the compliment. As for that dyno above, yeah he's running an intake but I think the biggest part is that he was tuned by Chris from HOOKUPS. Chris is a very good tuner and definetly knows what he's doing, the guy that "tuned" my car thought a K20A3 was the same motor as a B16 There is definetly more power in the motor, just hafta find a better tuner is all.
<FONT COLOR="blue"><FONT SIZE="4"> Shout out to Aquafina for hookin me up with the cams and valvetrain!! </FONT></FONT>
As far as I know Dave does not build a manifold for a 1.6, so thats why I said the Toda. I have yet to see a Toda beaten on a dyno in a 1.6 app.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hj. »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">uhmmm clean hatch...no i know why is "clean rice"
numbers wise...i dunno...check this out..https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1522007
he's stock... </TD></TR></TABLE>
Haha, thanks for the compliment. As for that dyno above, yeah he's running an intake but I think the biggest part is that he was tuned by Chris from HOOKUPS. Chris is a very good tuner and definetly knows what he's doing, the guy that "tuned" my car thought a K20A3 was the same motor as a B16
There is definetly more power in the motor, just hafta find a better tuner is all. <FONT COLOR="blue"><FONT SIZE="4"> Shout out to Aquafina for hookin me up with the cams and valvetrain!!
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Re: B16b+M22x+Spoon exhaust = xxx whp?? (TurboDoug)
Seen the car in person. The pics don't do it justice! Looks like you got the top-end and some mid-range to boot. Resist the temptation for boost and stick with NA.
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Re: B16b+M22x+Spoon exhaust = xxx whp?? (brokeHonda)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by brokeHonda »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Seen the car in person. The pics don't do it justice! </TD></TR></TABLE>
You have seen it? Thankyou for the compliment man. As for future plans, I have no idea. If it stays a 1.6, I wanna sleeve it to 86mm and keep the M22's and have a rev-happy, strong top end motor. If Brad has the time, he will get the head, otherwise it will go to Rocket for a port job. My roomate does however have a 89 crank with Scat rods that are just layin around, so it's real tempting to do a 89x86 and M24x's with a big-tube SMS. But a boosted ctr motor would be really cool also, I haven't seen too many of those. I love n/a and how they feel, but I wanna boost my car cuz I don't wanna have ANY problems with those damn SRT-4's or anything. I'm afraid that if I build a big n/a motor that I might have a hard time beating a Neon, and I HATE those ****** things hahahaha.
I guess if I were convinced that a 220whp(mild n/a) motor would handle a SRT-4, then I would do it, but I think it would be cool to hand a Vette it's *** too! Not that I do allot of street racing or anything ,I've learned my lesson with that..I'm an old man now Hahahahaha Thankyou for the compliments fellas
You have seen it? Thankyou for the compliment man. As for future plans, I have no idea. If it stays a 1.6, I wanna sleeve it to 86mm and keep the M22's and have a rev-happy, strong top end motor. If Brad has the time, he will get the head, otherwise it will go to Rocket for a port job. My roomate does however have a 89 crank with Scat rods that are just layin around, so it's real tempting to do a 89x86 and M24x's with a big-tube SMS. But a boosted ctr motor would be really cool also, I haven't seen too many of those. I love n/a and how they feel, but I wanna boost my car cuz I don't wanna have ANY problems with those damn SRT-4's or anything. I'm afraid that if I build a big n/a motor that I might have a hard time beating a Neon, and I HATE those ****** things hahahaha.
I guess if I were convinced that a 220whp(mild n/a) motor would handle a SRT-4, then I would do it, but I think it would be cool to hand a Vette it's *** too! Not that I do allot of street racing or anything ,I've learned my lesson with that..I'm an old man now Hahahahaha Thankyou for the compliments fellas
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Re: B16b+M22x+Spoon exhaust = xxx whp?? (clean rice)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by clean rice »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You have seen it? </TD></TR></TABLE>
Yep! I'm the proud owner of a set of pro1's. I'll keep you posted on the build to see if the srt's and vette's are easy-cheesy!
Yep! I'm the proud owner of a set of pro1's. I'll keep you posted on the build to see if the srt's and vette's are easy-cheesy!
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Re: B16b+M22x+Spoon exhaust = xxx whp?? (crx2nr822)
Ahhh ok, gotchya. You'll like those cams, they did well in Bob's motor.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by crx2nr822 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I love the engine bay, its so f*ckin clean! Mad props......nice gains on the mid range </TD></TR></TABLE>
Thanks guy!
I tried taking some diffrent pics, they are a bit brighter and a little easier to read.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by crx2nr822 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I love the engine bay, its so f*ckin clean!
Mad props......nice gains on the mid range </TD></TR></TABLE>Thanks guy!
I tried taking some diffrent pics, they are a bit brighter and a little easier to read.
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Re: B16b+M22x+Spoon exhaust = xxx whp?? (clean rice)
A few other cars they had layin around. This is a 8.3 liter Viper that was blown runnin on C16, damn thing wouldn't idle under 1,500 rpms. They were waitin to get it runnin right before they dyno'd it, 950+ rwhp.
This was a true, and I have never seen one before, Hennesey Viper(sp?). Thing was twin turbo'd, never got to hear it run or what #'s they were lookin for it to put out.
And they're drag car. Runs consistent low 9's, they said it was quite a task trying to keep it in a straight line with that 6-speed gear box. Sick Supra though.
Good times
This was a true, and I have never seen one before, Hennesey Viper(sp?). Thing was twin turbo'd, never got to hear it run or what #'s they were lookin for it to put out.
And they're drag car. Runs consistent low 9's, they said it was quite a task trying to keep it in a straight line with that 6-speed gear box. Sick Supra though.
Good times
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Re: B16b+M22x+Spoon exhaust = xxx whp?? (turbohf)
Oh it would've gone higher, but the stock air box and the exhaust manifold were choking it. It was basically leveling off at 8,700, so we set the limiter at 9 and called it good. I love the cams though