YAAAA! got my new RMF narrow for my 2.0L gsr!!! (pics)
well i got it about 2-3 weeks ago in the mail just never had a chance to post it!
well here yah go...



ohhh 1" deckplate

pic of the engine its going on

cant wait to get this new motor together!!....just took my stock gsr crx outta winter storage tonight, put temp insurance on for 3 hours and ripped it around, havnt driven it since october it was awsome!
Modified by B18 CYA at 9:25 AM 2/8/2006
well here yah go...



ohhh 1" deckplate

pic of the engine its going on

cant wait to get this new motor together!!....just took my stock gsr crx outta winter storage tonight, put temp insurance on for 3 hours and ripped it around, havnt driven it since october it was awsome!
Modified by B18 CYA at 9:25 AM 2/8/2006
Looks great! Should make some nice power!
I wonder how much additional power can be squeezed out of Randy's headers if they were Purge welded(ss).
I wonder how much additional power can be squeezed out of Randy's headers if they were Purge welded(ss).
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Chillinit »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Looks great! Should make some nice power!
I wonder how much additional power can be squeezed out of Randy's headers if they were Purge welded(ss). </TD></TR></TABLE>
Your joking Right? Dude nobody purges mild steel welds.No body that knows what they are doing anyway. Its a waist of time and money.The weld is allot stronger the the tube itself.And if anybody says that they do purge mild steel.Tell them that's why they only make 1 header a week.
I wonder how much additional power can be squeezed out of Randy's headers if they were Purge welded(ss). </TD></TR></TABLE>
Your joking Right? Dude nobody purges mild steel welds.No body that knows what they are doing anyway. Its a waist of time and money.The weld is allot stronger the the tube itself.And if anybody says that they do purge mild steel.Tell them that's why they only make 1 header a week.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by parks »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Is this going on Todd's car? The motor seems to be coming along VERY nicely! </TD></TR></TABLE>
Yup, this is todd posting, i just use sylvesters account on here lol, too lazy to make my own
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by parks »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">what were ur costs like comin over the border and shipping to canada?
p.s. BLINGGGG!</TD></TR></TABLE>
80$ shipping from randy to here. AND surprisingly no cost when they dropped it off
sign the paper, and they left idnt pay a cent extra
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sheepey »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">nice nice, randy always makes some of the best headers around......Cant wait to see the dyno numbers...</TD></TR></TABLE>
hehe gonna have to wait for those #'s its still winter, even tho my garage is heated its too cold to work on the car
Modified by B18 CYA at 7:05 PM 2/8/2006
Yup, this is todd posting, i just use sylvesters account on here lol, too lazy to make my own
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by parks »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">what were ur costs like comin over the border and shipping to canada?
p.s. BLINGGGG!</TD></TR></TABLE>
80$ shipping from randy to here. AND surprisingly no cost when they dropped it off
sign the paper, and they left idnt pay a cent extra
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sheepey »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">nice nice, randy always makes some of the best headers around......Cant wait to see the dyno numbers...</TD></TR></TABLE>
hehe gonna have to wait for those #'s its still winter, even tho my garage is heated its too cold to work on the car
Modified by B18 CYA at 7:05 PM 2/8/2006
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RMF »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Your joking Right? Dude nobody purges mild steel welds.No body that knows what they are doing anyway. Its a waist of time and money.The weld is allot stronger the the tube itself.And if anybody says that they do purge mild steel.Tell them that's why they only make 1 header a week.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I understand that no body purges mild steel. I'm just wondering if your header would make more power if it were stainless and the welds were purged? Theoritically, there will not be as much turbulance caused at the weld points because the inside of the weld would be smooth and relatively flush.
I understand that your header makes a lot of power and I'm not trying to take anything away from you in that regard. I am just curious. Would that minor difference make any significant power increase?
Your joking Right? Dude nobody purges mild steel welds.No body that knows what they are doing anyway. Its a waist of time and money.The weld is allot stronger the the tube itself.And if anybody says that they do purge mild steel.Tell them that's why they only make 1 header a week.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I understand that no body purges mild steel. I'm just wondering if your header would make more power if it were stainless and the welds were purged? Theoritically, there will not be as much turbulance caused at the weld points because the inside of the weld would be smooth and relatively flush.
I understand that your header makes a lot of power and I'm not trying to take anything away from you in that regard. I am just curious. Would that minor difference make any significant power increase?
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RMF »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The weld is allot stronger the the tube itself.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Of course the weld is stronger than the tube (base metal), that's how it should be for every welded joint. The mechanical properties of 1008 tubing (the mild steel material spec of what most benders use for mandrel bending) are around 50ksi ultimate and 40ksi yield. Some welders use an ER-70S rod to weld mild, it's mech properties are 72ksi/60ksi. I use a E309L rod for mild steel since it produces a nicer weld (I believe) and it's mech properties are 85ksi/62ksi. So yes the weld is stronger than the base metal, but if the tube cracks, it cracks at the edge of the weld not in the weld. Welds fail due to 1) being over stressed or 2) poor quality weld.
Now stainless tubing (304L) has mech properties around 75ksi/30ksi. When welding 304 tubing one uses an E308L rod which has mech properties very close to the E309L rod (85ksi/62ksi). So in this case the weld rod is again stronger than the base metal (304 tubing).
BTW, I know at least 4 shops (which I have the utmost respect for their welding quality) that back purge mild steel butt welds. So to each his own, I guess. To bad Engloid isn't on here anymore, he could really add some technical meat.
B18 CYA - I'm not trying to jack your thread, just putting out some facts about welding procedures and failures. I'll try to stay out of the rest of the thread.
Of course the weld is stronger than the tube (base metal), that's how it should be for every welded joint. The mechanical properties of 1008 tubing (the mild steel material spec of what most benders use for mandrel bending) are around 50ksi ultimate and 40ksi yield. Some welders use an ER-70S rod to weld mild, it's mech properties are 72ksi/60ksi. I use a E309L rod for mild steel since it produces a nicer weld (I believe) and it's mech properties are 85ksi/62ksi. So yes the weld is stronger than the base metal, but if the tube cracks, it cracks at the edge of the weld not in the weld. Welds fail due to 1) being over stressed or 2) poor quality weld.
Now stainless tubing (304L) has mech properties around 75ksi/30ksi. When welding 304 tubing one uses an E308L rod which has mech properties very close to the E309L rod (85ksi/62ksi). So in this case the weld rod is again stronger than the base metal (304 tubing).
BTW, I know at least 4 shops (which I have the utmost respect for their welding quality) that back purge mild steel butt welds. So to each his own, I guess. To bad Engloid isn't on here anymore, he could really add some technical meat.
B18 CYA - I'm not trying to jack your thread, just putting out some facts about welding procedures and failures. I'll try to stay out of the rest of the thread.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SMSP »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">B18 CYA - I'm not trying to jack your thread, just putting out some facts about welding procedures and failures. I'll try to stay out of the rest of the thread.
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haha dont worry i have no idea what any of that stuff mean but it sounds technical
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by onepoint6i »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">dope shitt...
that block looks like the one NA-Cutie sold on ebay....?
how much you pay for that header?</TD></TR></TABLE>
yup im the one who got the engine off ebay. i was to lazy to take a pic so i posted one she had lol...
the header was 780$US (about 895CND$) shipped to my door.
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haha dont worry i have no idea what any of that stuff mean but it sounds technical
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by onepoint6i »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">dope shitt...
that block looks like the one NA-Cutie sold on ebay....?
how much you pay for that header?</TD></TR></TABLE>
yup im the one who got the engine off ebay. i was to lazy to take a pic so i posted one she had lol...
the header was 780$US (about 895CND$) shipped to my door.



