Yes, Time for someone to pick a set-up for me.

I'm somewhat a Noob when it comes to suspension set-ups. However I do research to the products background and any issues that have arisen. I believe in the saying "A shortcut usually requires walking twice as far."

Thats why I'm trying to do it right the first time because I don't want to do it again. I currently have:

Omni UCA's
Omni LCA's
Omni Rear Camber Kit.

I ordered an ASR subframe brace and ordering a Type-R sway from the dealer along with the BSQ kit.

So now I'm down to the spring/shock situation. I was looking at the Omni Full System from PassJdm (649.99) (which is where I bought everything else), Or the Tein basic which retails for 750.00.

But time is running out and I need to have my suspension and wheel/tire combo sorted before the end of apirl. So I've been doing some research on a spring shock combo and have came up empty handed on what to choose.

I mostly definately DO NOT want an extremely bouncy ride. A little is tolerable but this is going to be a DD car. I want to corner with little to no sag or roll.

So what are some good set-ups. I have rode in a Koni/GC set-up and it wasn't that bad but I would like to stay away from the sleeve coils because living in the salt belt they will lock in no time. So I want a spring/shock combo.

I'm looking not to slam it but to get rid of some wheelgap. Look like an OEM drop persay. Here's is my car and the parts I currently have.

 

look up ksport bro...i've read many good reviews on them...i was close to getting them for my EJ8 but went with a different setup (stupid choice too). dont get the Omni 6way adj full coils. they are really stiff but bouncy has hell...i had them for 1 month and sold them....i'm not sure about the Omni full coils which are non adj, alot of people say they ride stiff and its a tolerable ride..

 

you don't need BSQ with ASR brace, thats why the ASR brace is made, it support subframe.

Koni Yellow/GC would be my choice for you, pick the rates from soft 300/250 to firm 450/400 and the shocks are adjustable. It would absolutely murder Tien and Omni.

oh and if you searched you'd see loads of feedback on Tein, Omni, GC/Koni with good and bad. ie. Tein's crap rates for performance, but good rates for comfort

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by alwaysoverkill &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">you don't need BSQ with ASR brace, thats why the ASR brace is made, it support subframe.

Koni Yellow/GC would be my choice for you, pick the rates from soft 300/250 to firm 450/400 and the shocks are adjustable. It would absolutely murder Tien and Omni.

oh and if you searched you'd see loads of feedback on Tein, Omni, GC/Koni with good and bad. ie. Tein's crap rates for performance, but good rates for comfort</TD></TR></TABLE>

I didn't know that I didn't need both the brace and the kit. O well.

I've rave reviews about the K/GC set-up but I don't want adjustable coils. The winter here sucks and the salt/grit they put on the roads would have them seized in no time.

 

ummmm, Omni and Tein basics have adjustable coils...all coilovers do whethier sleeve type or "full" coilovers.

sounds like you want springs only in that case, something like Tokico Illumina or Koni Yellow with a spring like H&R Sport which lowers 1.75/1.5

camber kit is not really needed either with mild drop as usually camber is within or close enough to within spec thats its not really an issue as long as toe is at 0 from the alignment.

 

Yes, Sorry if I sounded a little confusing. I wanted to get a full system, but I'd rather go with a spring/shock combo dure to the winters in Pa.

I needed the camber kit for the front the PO wrecked it and when I aligned it at the shop the RF is -2.5

 

Hey, I'll be the first to actually listen to you.

It doesn't sound like you do any kind of racing and so I'm going to recommend the setup that I put on my g/f Civic:

Koni Red/Special Shocks
Eibach Pro-kit

As for the ride quality, it's a cruiser. It's smooth. Plus, the shocks are adjustable; you just have to take them off the car to adjust them.

And, if you buy them from authorized dealers, you'll get a lifetime warranty on the shocks and, if I remember correctly, a million mile warranty on the Eibachs.

I've also got an AEM rear sway bar that I'm waiting on some mounts for.

Hope this helps ya out.

Latez,

Paul

 

Omni is garbage.

 

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I've rave reviews about the K/GC set-up but I don't want adjustable coils. The winter here sucks and the salt/grit they put on the roads would have them seized in no time.</TD></TR></TABLE>

What make you think that the Omni or Tiens would not siezed in no time either... They are all have adjustable spring perchs and thier perchs and threads are aluminum so if gc's would sieze sould would tien or omni.
If this is just for Street Driving I would go with what 97tegGS said.

 

The spring rates that you said could be had... soft 300-250, or firm 450-400 are not much different than the Tein basic which has 8kg front (448 LBS) and 6kg rear (336 LBS). Plus the basics can run plus or minus 2kg springs, giving you up to 10kg (559 LBS) front, and 8kg rear (448 LBS). In addition to that, if your shocks are valved properly they don't really need to have adjust-ability. Progress suspension is a good example of a well valved shock.

 

I just put a set of Koni/GC on my EK and its awsome. Just went out on my first country drive on the back roads and I had a blast. The thing was glued to the road in every turn I threw at her.

If you are worried about the sleeves of the GC's then just get a set of Koni's and then throw some lowering springs on there. I honestly don't think you going to kind a set of coilovers that don't have sleeves... Plus I think the GC sleeves use a rust/corrosion resistant metal.

 

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Not quite.... Adjustabilty is there to let you fine tune your settings, if your shocks aren'y valved correctly to handle the spring no amount of adjustabilty is going to fix it. Progress does make some nice stuff, but I am sure I could match or better the perforamce with a good set of Koni's and ground controls... heck I could probably do that against any of the shocks mentioned in this thread.

 

Ill be ordering this. Even though it went against somethings. Im looking for a bolt in and go setup. Is this it?

999+ shipping aint bad at all




Modified by 97tegGS at 8:32 PM 1/29/2006

 

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x 100

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 97tegGS &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Ill be ordering this. Even though it went against somethings. Im looking for a bolt in and go setup. Is this it?

999+ shipping aint bad at all




Modified by 97tegGS at 8:32 PM 1/29/2006</TD></TR></TABLE>

That'll be perfect. What spring rates did you get? Koni/GC =

 

Point taken. I was using progress as an example of shock valving matching well to their spring rates. Adjust ability is very important for the driver looking to fine tune their suspension, and dial-in their ride. My Tein RS coil-overs are quite nicely adjustable, including spring pre-load seperate from ride height, as well as the standard dampning and rebound adjusters. I am not sure how much tuning this indivigual (97tegGS) is wanting to do, I was simple stating that a well matched shock/spring combo be it Koni/GC or any others in existance are not going to be that bad without damping adjustement, as long as they are matched correctly. I realy did enjoy the ride quality and handling of my friends Integra with GC/Koni's, but I also love my Teins, especially with the rates that I run 10kg (559 lbs) front, and 12kg (671 lbs) rear.

 

make sure you spend your money on an alignment to fix your toe when youre done lowering, no matter what you end up with. your tires will thank you for it.

 

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To bad we dont get GC parts here in Portugal. That would be the setup i would put on my EE9 (but no...here in this part of the world we only get those lousy Ractive coilovers wannabe. )

 

those GC/Koni's are an excellent choice, it even comes with extended top hats which give you about 1" more suspension travel.

i'm also curious, what rates did you pick?

 

I Havent ordered them yet, but with all of this positive feedback I will. I was going to order the 450F/350R.

yes/no?

 

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yes/no?</TD></TR></TABLE>

that may be slightly stiff for daily driving, 380/280 is the stock off the shelf rates, 350/300 may be better suited to daily driving then 450 front.

To give you an idea, I called and talked with an auto-x guy at GC for about 45 minutes. He recommend 380/430 for a daily driving auto-x car with a 22mm rear sway bar. so i'd be more in the ball-park of 350/300, 380/300 or 400/300 as a daily driver. With the 22mm rear sway bar you've ordered that will help the car rotate, so no point in adding stiffer rear springs, that would make the car seem alot stiffer since there is no weight back there. 400/300 with the 22mm rear sway bar should be a stiff but acceptable ride. You may still find this to be stiff, but 450 will definately be stiff.

 

When your Omni LCA bushings fall apart, you're ready for some Function7's! (which takes what, 6-9 months?)

 

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Sweet. That's what I'll get then.

This fourm amazes me. I figured I would get the "search noob" or "gtfo" or something similiar because of a general question.

I appalud you guys of this fourm and also for helping me out.

Thanks.

 

i'd still recommend calling GC and speaking with them too. They will probably recommend 400/300 as well, or the off the shelf rates of 380/280.

Give em a call, can't hurt. number is on their website ground-control.com

 

Alright, well due to certain financial circumstances I have a limit of 1k Firm. Since the HT sponsor for GC doesn't log on anymore and there sale on the aformention combo is over. (Im going to call them tomorrow to see if I can still get it for 999 Shipped)

I maybe foced to buy something else. I would like to stick to alwaysoverkill's suggestion

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I was considering the TEIN Basic Dampener for 750 but they don't have any info on http://www.tein.com about spring rates and such. My next option was the Omni-Power Setup found at PassJDM for 649. What are my other options. I have to have them and installed in less than a month dure to the car getting painted.

I would rather scratch an old paintjob during the install than a new 2k one.