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Old Jan 18, 2006 | 06:19 AM
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any one know of anyways to do a b series or h series swap into a 93 vigor? ever hear of anything.. i cant find anything on the net and that 5 cyl motor is unbuildable...
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Old Jan 18, 2006 | 08:45 AM
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why would u wanna put a b series in a vigor?? the car is a 4 door and much heavier than a civic.

If anything, boost the 5 cylinder or do a rear wheel drive conversion.
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Old Jan 18, 2006 | 02:37 PM
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ya could you do a h swap in there or how about a accord v6 vtec or maybe a legened swap?
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Old Jan 19, 2006 | 12:46 AM
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A legend swap is too big. You wouldnt be putting enough power in that car with a B series (unless you boosted it) and an H series doesnt seem likely. I think your screwed.
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Old Jan 19, 2006 | 11:53 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by V-Thang &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">why would u wanna put a B series in a vigor?? the car is a 4 door and much heavier than a civic.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Agreed. Well, at least with the "put a B series in a vigor" and "much heavier than a civic." Four doors has nothing to do with it.

First off, although alot of people sleep on the G25A (Vigor) motor, it does make pretty decent power. It might not make the most horsepower out of a honda engine and there might not be any v-tec but the engine is still pretty good.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by u'llsee &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">any one know of anyways to do a b series or h series swap into a 93 vigor? ever hear of anything</TD></TR></TABLE>

g25a (US) : 176 HP ~167 TQ
g25a (JDM): 190 HP ???TQ (i dont remember the actual torque number for the JDM motor, but most likely it is high than 167)

Although the Vigor might not have as much horsepower as the H, it does have more torque and if u didnt know.....torque is your friend

Now if you do decide that you want to do a swap, then i would personally recommend sourcing an Acura Legend Type II motor...V6 230 HP. I've never heard of someone swapping a Legend motor in a Vigor though, but anything is possible with the right amount of money.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by u'llsee &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i cant find anything on the net and that 5 cyl motor is unbuildable...</TD></TR></TABLE>

By that statement, i'm assuming that you are a new Vigor owner. One thing that you'll learn is that when it comes to trying to build your Vigor, you are very limited when it comes to parts. That is where the fun comes in, because you get to do some custom work. Also, dont forget that although you have an Acura Vigor, you also have many other family members w/ the same genes as you in the Honda/Acura world.

For example...if you are looking for a suspension setup for your vigor (shocks w/ springs or full coilover set up) you can look for the suspension for the 90-97 Accord (non-V6 i believe).

Exhaust...as simple as buying an aftermarket muffler and going to a muffler shop and having them put it on for you.

Intake...this isn't really that difficult. I know of two ways people have done this in their Vigor. You can either go to a muffler shop and have them make the piping for you or if you want to piece together your cold air intake, you will need the following parts.
-Short Ram intake for a GSR
-3" 90 degree piping
-3" bypass valve (not necessary but highly recommended)

Braking...eBay has Goodridge stainless steel brake lines for the Vigor. In the search, just type in 'Vigor Brake' and scroll down to the eay store. You'll be looking at about $160 before shipping. eBay also has the rotors for the Vigor, but if you choose, you should also be able to use the brakes from a 90-97 Accord. The Acura Legend GS also came with twin piston calipers for the front. I'm not sure if those will work, but I should be getting around to trying to do the swap soon, so i'll post here when i do.

Well, as you can see, the list can go on and on, as I haven't even covered the head yet. It all depends on how deep into it you would like to go and how much you are willing to spend.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by V-Thang &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">...or do a rear wheel drive conversion.</TD></TR></TABLE>

By no means am I trying to start a post full of flames, but.....have you seen this done or are you just stating an opinion?
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Old Jan 19, 2006 | 08:08 PM
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wow, that was alot of helpful info j-spec. your right, i am a new vigor owner. and by no means am i trying to build something thats gonna dust anyone, just want some more *****. the only reason i suggested a h or b series is because they are very buidable, parts readily availible, and have v-tec plus many after market parts. would any of the motors talked about bolt up to the stock vigor trans? (because it has a diff) i guess if i need to chang e the trans i'll do a conversion- cuz right now its automatic. i dont know much about this car, but am learning alot as i go. all the help is greatly appreciated. (not to kiss @ss or anything)
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Old Jan 21, 2006 | 09:02 AM
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Turbo Vigor

http://www.customtuned.us/Vigo...0.JPG
http://www.customtuned.us/Vigo...1.JPG
http://www.customtuned.us/Vigo...2.JPG
http://www.customtuned.us/Vigo...3.JPG
http://www.customtuned.us/Vigo...4.JPG
http://www.customtuned.us/Vigo...5.JPG
http://www.customtuned.us/Vigo...6.JPG
http://www.customtuned.us/Vigo...7.JPG
http://www.customtuned.us/Vigo...8.JPG
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Old Jan 21, 2006 | 02:01 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by vigor5spd &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Turbo Vigor

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That's not bad at all, any more info on it?
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Old Jan 22, 2006 | 02:38 PM
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vigor5spd,

Give us some more info on it. What are the gains you got from it? Man its soooo hot tho!
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Old Jan 22, 2006 | 03:47 PM
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Its not my ride.
I believe it is a guy in FL. He had custom headers made along with all the piping and exhaust.

Go here for more info:
http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/...dclub/
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Old Jan 22, 2006 | 10:34 PM
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aw man....who made the exhaust manifold for that car? I mean its honda's only 5-cylinder.
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Old Jan 22, 2006 | 10:35 PM
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Given the motor is laid lengthwise, maybe the F-series from the S2000....
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Old Jan 22, 2006 | 11:26 PM
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Do you realize how much work is involved in an engine swap? Its not worth it man.
If you really want a B o H series engine, then get a car that is made to take it. You're just gonna
give yourself a headache if you try to swap out the engine in that car.
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Old Jan 23, 2006 | 01:04 AM
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But its cool, thats the whole point anybody does anything to their car.
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Old Jan 23, 2006 | 11:04 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by vigor5spd &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Turbo Vigor</TD></TR></TABLE>

wow, that's real interesting. me and my boy are working on a custom turbo setup for ours too. but that's the first one that i've ever seen actually done.
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Old Jan 23, 2006 | 09:56 PM
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I'm loving all the info on customized Vigors.

I myself am just getting started on a 93 Vigor and can't seem to catch any luck with finding anyone to import a set of projector one piece headlight assemblies.

If anyone has suggestions on where to look or who to talk to please post.
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Old Jan 24, 2006 | 05:25 AM
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I'm going to be doing my custom cold air intake on mine soon, and when i do i'll take pics and try and do a write up.

For the black one piece headlight, you can try eBay. You can either type in 'vigor jdm' or 'cc2 headlight.' You're looking at between $200-300 after shipping.
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Old Jan 24, 2006 | 06:59 AM
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most fabricators can make headers from scratch. alot of big blocks in american cars require custom made headers.

this is an awesome thread people!! love the turbo set up on that car! i'm also looking for the one piece headlights- those are sooo sweet.
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Old Jan 25, 2006 | 02:59 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by j-spec_cc2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
For example...if you are looking for a suspension setup for your vigor (shocks w/ springs or full coilover set up) you can look for the suspension for the 90-97 Accord (non-V6 i believe).
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Have you done this? I cross checked the part numbers for Monroe shocks for 1993-94 Vigor vs. 1990-1993 and 1994-96 Accords. They don't match. Couple of thoughts:

1. I am looking for Bilsteins for my Vigor. If they were to work, cool. If not...

2. and if you haven't done it, passing out bad info is not cool.

Thanks for your contribution.
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Old Jan 26, 2006 | 05:42 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by frostwhite_92 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Have you done this? I cross checked the part numbers for Monroe shocks for 1993-94 Vigor vs. 1990-1993 and 1994-96 Accords. They don't match. Couple of thoughts:

1. I am looking for Bilsteins for my Vigor. If they were to work, cool. If not...

2. and if you haven't done it, passing out bad info is not cool.

Thanks for your contribution.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I haven't done it myself, but when I was in college (and i had my 90 Accord...R.I.P. ) one of my boys had a red 94 Vigor (http://www.cardomain.com/ride/260943) and when he dropped his, he used some coilovers from a 90-97 Accord, but kept his factor shocks. He has now moved on to a Dropzone full suspension setup (coilovers and shocks)...which he got from the 90-97 Accord. I think the Vigor is heavier than the Accord, so if you use Accord drop springs, it will most likely be lower than what the spring is rated for an Accord.

PS...that kit that he has on there can't be bought. he brought the car back with him to Aruba when he finished school and had it custom made there....
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Old Jan 27, 2006 | 09:12 AM
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Accord shocks and springs from 90-97 WILL fit on the Vigor. I have 93 Accord shocks on my 92 Vigor.
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Old Jan 28, 2006 | 02:22 AM
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I have a set of JMD one piece headlights for sale.

I also have these on my ride:

http://www.we-todd-did-racing....x.jpg

http://www.we-todd-did-racing....x.jpg

The headlights and bumper were from a Honda Inspire from Japan.

I also have Honda Accord Eibach springs on my ride. 93-97 Accord suspension fit on the Vigor
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Old Jan 29, 2006 | 04:38 PM
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tell me more about the headlights you are selling. How much do you want for them? I'd appreciate to be able to see pics of them, and out of curiosity, where would you be sending them from.
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Old Jan 29, 2006 | 09:53 PM
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Let me takes some pics and ill post them soon.

I live in Texas.
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Old Jan 31, 2006 | 10:42 AM
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My first question is why swap a much less displacement motor into a big car like a vigor? You should swap something in there equal if not better IMO. I mean you can do the motor swaps but it would be a waste of money since you will have a lack of torque and the vigor is a big car. Id say run the I5 motor.
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