I'll have everything tomorrow for my head swap. Haveing the head cleaned, valve job etc... just waiting on the RM springs and retainers. heres a list of everything i've bought for the head swap.

-Crower stage 3
-RM spr/ret
-supertech std. size valves
-KMS high flow oil pump
-Prostreet timing belt kit
-ARP head studs
-complete head gasket kit

im hoping to have the head off my car tomorrow and have the new one on by the weekend. Here's some pics to hold you guys off >












Modified by 92bluepreludeSi at 8:07 PM 1/13/2006


Modified by 92bluepreludeSi at 8:08 PM 1/13/2006

 

Nice! You are swapping SOHC for DOHC? Or just a replacement head? Good luck and keep us posted. I would be interested in hearing about your experience tuning those cams, especially the idle.

 

looks like it'll produce some great airflow for that head. i hope to do something similiar to my h23, either that or build an h23vtec, haven't quite decided yet. looks good man

 

Sweet! Someone I can relate to. That looks pretty nice. I'm with flyrod, the tuning will be an experience. What ECU are you going to run? What are your goals? Good luck with those. Kudos for trying something different. How much did you pay for the valves? where did you get them?

Pirate

 

Im replacing my dohc with the new and improved one I paid 290 for the valves! yea... 333 with shipping. crazy. Got them from at importperformanceparts.net. Still going to use the stock ecu. i only have an safc. Dont really have too high of goals. Just want to see how this works out and see what the results will be. Can anybody tell me what to expect from the idle? I'll keep you guys posted!

 

First off pull out a LOT of fuel at idle or it will probably not run below 2000 rpm on initial startup. I really really recommend something other than the SAFC for tuning. Once you get the air/fuel right then it will be about like this:

http://www.we-todd-did-racing....DE%3D
(right click, save as, quicktime format)
but you can spend a lot of time with timing and idle screws and whatnot and get it down to a really lumpy 800rpm. The clip above is with a crappy exhaust and idling at about 1000 rpm from about 9 months ago. My power peaked at 6500 rpm dyno on basemap link in sig. But I am not a regular H23 build.

Pirate

 

wow that sounds crazy. Are you using anything to tune it? you wouldnt happen to have a clip of it reving, do u? thx

 

Not right now. I might be able to come up with something tomorrow though. I have a tuned P28 with custom fuel and ignition maps.

Pirate

 

Good luck It's good to see not everyone is going H22.

 

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exactly let me know your results when u get some numbers im very interested to see your numbers

 

where did you get the p28 from? phearable? Oh.... in the crower manual it says that the lube is for a quick break in. How do you break the cams in?


Modified by 92bluepreludeSi at 4:24 PM 12/21/2005


Modified by 92bluepreludeSi at 4:32 PM 12/21/2005


Modified by 92bluepreludeSi at 4:41 PM 12/21/2005


Modified by 92bluepreludeSi at 5:06 PM 12/21/2005

 

I got the ECU from a junkyard and had Flyrod convert it to a P28 and I tuned the maps.

I used Crower's assembly lube and followed the procedure outlined in the little booklet that came with the cams.

Oh, here's a sound clip I found:
(right click, save as)
http://www.we-todd-did-racing....5NTQx

Pirate

 

lol, sounds pretty sweet

 

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well if you like that you'll probably like this one a lot better.
http://www.we-todd-did-racing....5NTQx


Pirate

 

mmnnnnn, non vtak power

 

that sounds nice

 

alright, finally got my RM springs and retainers in today. Took them to the shop to have the springs, retainers, valves, and vavle stem seals installed. should have it back on tuesday. I'll have my car prepared for the swap by then.

 

nice set up man just make sure the cams are degreed right and the cars tuned good luck

 

Good, it's about time someone else threw this bad boys in to see what a non-vtec can pull!

Keep us updated.

 

ok, i got my head off and everything on the front off. Looks like my engine was rebuilt before i bought it. head looked brand new, block looks brand new, all the internals look brand new. Its crazy!

 

Mine looked like it had been worked on too. It was not very good work though. Glad to hear that you're making some progress.

pirate

 

yea... mine had work for sure. but my timing belt and balance shaft belt were real loose. Could explain why i it didnt pull at all after 4500 cuz of the timing belt. When i get my head back tomorrow i'll post some pics and pics of my engine torn down. I know you guys have seen that kind of stuff... but eyecandy is good!

 

hey pirate, were your RM springs longer than stock? Cuz the machine shop just called me saying that the springs are too long and they are afraid its going to spring bind.

 

IIRC they were shorter. But there were big differences in the retainer and what not. Tell them that they work fine for me and have for abot 10K miles at .451" lift.

http://www.we-todd-did-racing....D.jpg RM S&R installed comparison

http://www.we-todd-did-racing....D.jpg RM S&R set

http://www.we-todd-did-racing....D.jpg stock retainer

http://www.we-todd-did-racing....D.jpg RM retainer

I am sure that RM could tell you specific specs that the shop should look for.
Pirate

 

yea my springs dont look like that! omg. I think the guy sent me the wrong springs, cuz the ones i have are a lot more slim. The guy at the machine shop is having trouble finding a seat cuz they are not the same size. I might have to put my old head on now. i bought the rm spring set from dfoxengr and he says that he sent me the H23 springs.

edit: Forgot to say that my springs dont sit on the spring seat properly cuz they are smaller in diameter.


Modified by 92bluepreludeSi at 10:13 AM 12/29/2005


Modified by 92bluepreludeSi at 10:16 AM 12/29/2005