i wanna know what cams would actually be worth putting in without spending too much money..probably a budget of 400-500..if not less..ive heard of putting ITR cams and using the ITR valvesprings for the intake side and using the GSR INTAKE springs on the exhaust side...supposedly this set up gives a decent gain..i want to know if its worth doing this or should i just get skAnk2's with whatever valvetrain..

i will get the car tuned with Crome..i will have the bolt ons..i just wanna do some head work..hook me up with some advice..switchin from Boost to VTEC!! then probably boosting that later on..who knows!? but someone point me in the right direction!! PLEASE! thanks in advanced!

i also wanna know what would be the preferred valvesprings and retainers for this set up? or whatever setup someone suggests..would ITR be good enough..im probably gonna set redline to 9500..but probably only taking it to 8500-9000 but 9500 on the runs i feel like tearin things up..aight..help me up! thanks

 

SRANK2 all around!!!!

 

skunk2's i had them with skunk2 intake mainfold and some other goodies worked nice and i just had a VAFC 2 in my car and it ran perfect..

 

any numbers? what valvesprings and retainers did u use?

 

I plan on having an extra gsr head that I have worked up and I am getting it done by headway performance. I spoke with the guy for a while and he suggested a port and polish, 3 angle valve job ITR intake cam upgrade the springs and retainers and he's going to tune it. He told me the exhaust side is basically the same as the itr maybe a degree or 2 in difference, and that I wouldn't really benefit from doing anything to that side. I plan on staying N/A and stay streetable. I'm not looking to make enormous power just tap out some hidden power.

 

skunk2 if your comparing it to stock or type r

 

no valve springs, or retainers, i never got it dyno, but i could beat couple of buddies stock type R's minus an intake and exhuast... if that helps ( hwo is that for some butt dyno for ya hahahah)

 

so skunk2's over type r cams? how much extra hp would type r intake cam with the springs and retainers give me? i dont really wanna buy expensive skunk2 valvesprings or anything..type r springs are cheaper..so i kinda wanted to go that route..i need more inputs please!! thanks for the info so far

 

I wouldn't set your rev limit so high. Either of those cams will not even come close to making power than high, so you will just be putting more stress on your motor than you need to.

 

well..how can i make it so that my motor is safe to rev to 9500? or 9200?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 4play4dr &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">well..how can i make it so that my motor is safe to rev to 9500? or 9200?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Think about some much larger cams that actually make power up that high. You really need to get on a dyno and see where the power drops off and set the rev limit there.

What the hell do you want to rev that high for?

 

braggin rights would be my guess, cause if u get that large of cams without higher compression u really aren't going to be makin more power, IMO its pointless unless u are doing a full n/a build then go for it and be ready to spend a grip

 

he wants to wind the tach around to impress the ladies...come on guys

 

i dont kno why i wanna go that high..i guess cuz i read a lot of posts where people go that high n whatnot..but ima probably be running b16 pistons in my gsr so with that and type r cams and whatever..im not trying to go all crazy NA..just good enough to spank other gsr's and possibly hang with type r's..

also..do i needa get b16 rods along with the pistons to put into my block? or can i just put the pistons on my rods and be fine? how about ctr cams and pistons? would that be a good set-up?

 

k so let me get this straight, u want to rev that high, even though u aren't making power?? u need to do a lot more research!!, i am not a big n/a guy so i couldn't tell ya, but u need to really develop a nice plan for building a motor, and also what u going to use to tune this bad boy, u have to be able to leave some bills for tunning,a nd have good fueling.. anywayz long story short reaserch its yoru friennd, u will be happier in the end when u have a ncie set up and a car that dosen't blow up on u

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 4play4dr &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i dont kno why i wanna go that high..i guess cuz i read a lot of posts where people go that high n whatnot..but ima probably be running b16 pistons in my gsr so with that and type r cams and whatever..im not trying to go all crazy NA..just good enough to spank other gsr's and possibly hang with type r's..

also..do i needa get b16 rods along with the pistons to put into my block? or can i just put the pistons on my rods and be fine? how about ctr cams and pistons? would that be a good set-up?</TD></TR></TABLE>

That right there shows that you really need to read up on alot of stuff before you go out buy parts and just slap them in. That's "Leggo Building" and you really need to stay away from doing that because it will cost you double in the long run. Focus on what you want from the car performancewise. If you want 200whp then set that goal for yourself. Map out the parts and work you need to get there and set your budget. Remember you will only go as fast as your wallet will let you go.

 

well..im gonna tune with CROME..then i will get on the dyno and see if i need to rev that high or not..im considering..type r intake cam and keepin the gsr cam..or just going skunk2..what about buddy club 3s? im planning on gettin b16 pistons, and besides that..keep the block the same..as for the head...some kind of cams and dual valve springs and titanium retainers....probably a 3-angle valve job...skunk2 pro series IM..ITR header..and whatever bolt ons..probably cam gears or something..so i dunno where that could possibly put my HP..but as for the cams..thats the only decision im thinking about..like whats more worth it? thanks for the info guyz

 

well..im gonna tune with CROME..then i will get on the dyno and see if i need to rev that high or not..im considering..type r intake cam and keepin the gsr cam..or just going skunk2..what about buddy club 3s? im planning on gettin b16 pistons, and besides that..keep the block the same..as for the head...some kind of cams and dual valve springs and titanium retainers....probably a 3-angle valve job...skunk2 pro series IM..ITR header..and whatever bolt ons..probably cam gears or something..so i dunno where that could possibly put my HP..but as for the cams..thats the only decision im thinking about..like whats more worth it? thanks for the info guyz

 

sorry the duplicate^ comp was actin up

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 4play4dr &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">well..im gonna tune with CROME..then i will get on the dyno and see if i need to rev that high or not..im considering..

type r intake cam and keepin the gsr cam..or just going skunk2..what about buddy club 3s? i

m planning on gettin b16 pistons, and besides that..keep the block the same..

as for the head...some kind of cams and dual valve springs and titanium retainers....probably a 3-angle valve job...skunk2 pro series IM..ITR header..and whatever bolt ons..probably cam gears or something..

so i dunno where that could possibly put my HP..but as for the cams..thats the only decision im thinking about..like whats more worth it? thanks for the info guyz </TD></TR></TABLE>

-If you're going to stick with your stock valvetrain and swap a set of higher profile cams, I would keep the revs at stock point until you get stronger valvetrain.

-Type r intake cam and keepin the gsr cam - Using the Type R intake cam and the GSR intake cam as your exhaust cam will yield results identical to a set of Type R Cams.

-Skunk 2 Cams - Stage 1 is pretty decent. I like the output it brings to the GSR motor with original block. No reason to bump up rev limit with these. Stage 2 is very nice but I suggest upgraded valvetrain. Expect to keep your RPM a bit above 1000 at idle. I dont think these would output much power past 8500 rpm's, i could be wrong.

-TOda Cams are pretty nice but pricey. If you can score a deal on them, do it! I'll see if I can remember the crower cams I thought were somewhat decent.

Changing your pistons, you'll probably want to get new connecting rods as well....then might as well balance your crank or swap with another crank such as Type R or aft.market brand. Leave the block alone unless you're willing to build it up/replace old components.

My opinion - Best choice if you cant spend the dough to fully upgrade your head (valvetrain, port and polish, valve job) would be with the ITR/CTR intake cam or if you can, skunk 2 stage 1 cam. Then match port your manifolds and tune it....should be fun.

 

I've been doing some research about what kind of cams are best. I've heard if your going to turbo you don't need to change the gsr cams. Is that true?

 

-Type r intake cam and keepin the gsr cam - Using the Type R intake cam and the GSR intake cam as your exhaust cam will yield results identical to a set of Type R Cams

did u mean using the type r intake cam and keeping the gsr exhaust cam?
how much do skunk2 stage 2's go for?..if i get them i cant use the stock ITR or GSR valvetrain? would i just need to get new valve springs and retainers? or would i have to get a new set of valves too?

whats the difference between type r crank and gsr crank? i dont wanna spend money on another crank..but is it necessary to get new rods if im going to get b16 pistons? also..what does balancing the crank do?

 

how about buddy club cams? are they better than skunk2s?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by FASTERRIDES &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I've been doing some research about what kind of cams are best. I've heard if your going to turbo you don't need to change the gsr cams. Is that true?
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no u don't have to change your cams when u go turbo

 

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