Timing Belt Question : D16A6 + D16Z6

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Old Dec 12, 2005 | 09:51 PM
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Default Timing Belt Question : D16A6 + D16Z6

Here is the question, in nifty thought format -

- D16Z6 Timing Belt has 104 teeth, how many teeth does the D16A6 have? ANSWER - 107 teeth

- The deck height is the same on the D16Z6 block and the D16A6 block, correct? ANSWER - 212mm

- KNOWN FACT - Timing Belt tensioners are different between the VTEC models and non-VTEC models.

- With a combination of a D16A6 Block, D16A6 tensioner, D16Z6 head, can a D16A6 timing belt be used or will it have to be the D16Z6 belt?


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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Dead Man Walking &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">match the timing belt to head</TD></TR></TABLE> Without applying any insight will promptly be marched to the 50 yard line during the Gator Bowl and be used as a tackling dummy by the team trailing at the half.


Modified by dr_latino999 at 2:55 AM 12/13/2005


PROPER TIMING BELT + TENSIONER COMBINATIONS
D16Y8 Timing Belt + D16Y8 Tensioner
D16Z6 Timing Belt + D16Y8 Tensioner
D15B7 Timing Belt + D16A6 Tensioner


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Old Dec 12, 2005 | 10:49 PM
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Default Re: Timing Belt Question : D16A6 + D16Z6 (dr_latino999)

Match the timing belt with the head


Just playin,,
Yes the d16a6 and d16z6 have the same deck height..(212mm)
D16a6 belt has 107 teeth and its to long to use here
I did this a while back d16a6 block and tensioner and d16z6 head and I used the y8 timing belt(same as the z6 but alot cheaper) It was really really fu*kin tight and I had to take the spring out of the tensioner to get it on but I did get it on..Maybe the d15b7 belt would be better(106 teeth) but Im not sure if its to loose or not..
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Old Dec 12, 2005 | 10:57 PM
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Default Re: Timing Belt Question : D16A6 + D16Z6 (Mr.speaker)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Mr.speaker &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I did this a while back d16a6 block and tensioner and d16z6 head and I used the y8 timing belt</TD></TR></TABLE> If it was really tight with the A6 tensioner, I could assume that since they have the same deck height and block persay I could switch the tensioner to the D16Z6 one and have the D16Z6 timing belt work perfectly? So the question to add on, are the water pumps the same (not mounting but size of gear and amount of teeth)?
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Old Dec 13, 2005 | 01:04 AM
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Default Re: Timing Belt Question : D16A6 + D16Z6 (dr_latino999)

Both waterpumps have 19 teeth..Im not sure if using a z6 tensioner would make the belt fit perfect..I would think so, but im not sure..I do think the d15b7 106 teeth belt would work though with the a6 tensioner..
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Old Dec 16, 2005 | 11:58 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Mr.speaker &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Both waterpumps have 19 teeth..Im not sure if using a z6 tensioner would make the belt fit perfect..I would think so, but im not sure..I do think the d15b7 106 teeth belt would work though with the a6 tensioner..</TD></TR></TABLE> Ok, I have like four blocks being assembled / disassembled on my garage floor and I decided to see if I can even put a Z6 Tensioner on the A6 block, well that is a no go It won't mount for all the life in China. The only way you are getting a D16Z6 size tensioner on the D16A6 block is if you press it off and put in the A6 bearing carrier dealy.

So the question is, which belt again? D15B7 as the D16Z6 will be too short and apply way too much downward force on the cam.
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Old Dec 16, 2005 | 01:53 PM
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Default Re: Timing Belt Question : D16A6 + D16Z6 (dr_latino999)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dr_latino999 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
So the question is, which belt again? D15B7 as the D16Z6 will be too short and apply way too much downward force on the cam.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yeah d16z6 is way to tight..Try the d15b7 belt..It has 106 teeth so it should fit perfect..
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Old Dec 16, 2005 | 02:25 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Mr.speaker &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yeah d16z6 is way to tight..Try the d15b7 belt..It has 106 teeth so it should fit perfect..</TD></TR></TABLE> The one timing belt I don't have in front of me . Any qualms in getting a timing belt from say Discount Auto?
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Old Dec 17, 2005 | 04:10 PM
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Today I had got the motor assembled from the ground up, the final choice for a timing belt for a D16A6 + D16Z6 Head combo retaining the stock D16A6 tensioner is in fact the 106 tooth D15B7 timing belt. It was loose at first but once properly tensioned it lost all slack and is on there nice and tight.
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Old Dec 17, 2005 | 09:43 PM
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Default Re: Timing Belt Question : D16A6 + D16Z6 (dr_latino999)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dr_latino999 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Today I had got the motor assembled from the ground up, the final choice for a timing belt for a D16A6 + D16Z6 Head combo retaining the stock D16A6 tensioner is in fact the 106 tooth D15B7 timing belt. It was loose at first but once properly tensioned it lost all slack and is on there nice and tight.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Glad to hear it worked.. Now we all know what the proper belt is to use..
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Old Dec 17, 2005 | 10:10 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Mr.speaker &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Glad to hear it worked.. Now we all know what the proper belt is to use..</TD></TR></TABLE> Oh no, I never said it worked. For all I know when I install the motor back in the car and get that punk to crank over the belt will untension itself, explode into a million flying shards, sever the gas line entering my garage, ignite that, and watch as a massive fireball erupts and engulfs me......or it runs fine
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Old Dec 21, 2005 | 05:46 AM
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Any update?
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Old Jul 19, 2006 | 01:40 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Mr.speaker &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Any update?</TD></TR></TABLE> For reference, since I never got around to posting it, this motor did infact run properly with everything tensioned properly. Only though for a trip around the block because two cylinders were dead due to D.O.A. Rings.
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Old Jul 19, 2006 | 02:53 PM
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i just bought a y8 timing belt with the y8 tensionaer for my a6 block, will that tensioner cause problems? or should i stick with the a6 tens. also?
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Old Jul 20, 2006 | 06:34 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 1990si &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i just bought a y8 timing belt with the y8 tensionaer for my a6 block, will that tensioner cause problems? or should i stick with the a6 tens. also?</TD></TR></TABLE> First see if you can properly mount the tensioner to the block. I didn't have a Y series one to test but you may luck out. Also, if you can get a picture or a measurement of the Y8 tensioner compared to the A6 tensioner to illustrate any size differences.
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Old Dec 5, 2006 | 08:51 PM
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I've updated the first post with a list of TB + Tensioners
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Old Jun 14, 2008 | 08:51 AM
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back from the dead. good info
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Old Jun 14, 2008 | 09:12 AM
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Wow, way to bring back this thread from the dead. But while it is back has anyone figured out if you can use a Y8 tensor with a Y8 belt on a d16a6 with Y8 head?
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Old Aug 10, 2008 | 02:58 PM
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glad i found this thread.

so for my d16a6 block with z6 head i should go with d15b7 belt, a6 pump and a6 tensioner??

thanks in advance
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Old Aug 10, 2008 | 03:32 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by swiF_blaK &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">glad i found this thread.

so for my d16a6 block with z6 head i should go with d15b7 belt, a6 pump and a6 tensioner??

thanks in advance</TD></TR></TABLE>Correct.
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Old Aug 10, 2008 | 04:14 PM
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****, thanks man
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