GSR dizzy

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Dec 4, 2005 | 01:20 PM
  #1  
lucidvtec's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 687
Likes: 0
From: HOT AS HELL, az, usa
Default GSR dizzy

i need to replace my entire dizzy...i fried the stock coil...on accident...then i put on a msd mod cap and coil...now it misfires after 5400rpm if i run more than 12psi....if i run 7psi or so its fine until about 7200rpm....it used to run fine before the coil went bad...i'm runnin ..ngk7's if that helps......i found these dizzys they are pretty cheap..and i heard that they are better than OEM ....any one use these before???
i checked out some local parts places and they want between 200-300 bux for a rebuild with a core charge...

here is the link

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...21302


also does anyone know what my dizzy is -- TD44U OR TD68U
it's a 94 4dr gsr - obd1 b18c1

thx
Reply
Old Dec 4, 2005 | 05:43 PM
  #2  
lucidvtec's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 687
Likes: 0
From: HOT AS HELL, az, usa
Default

nobody can help???
Reply
Old Dec 4, 2005 | 06:28 PM
  #3  
turncoat's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 88
Likes: 0
From: Toronto, ON, Canada
Default Re: (lucidvtec)

TD-44U is what you want - all OBDI B-series dizzys are the same. There are a few places on selling them, about $160-170 is as good as you will get for a new TD-44U.
Reply
Old Dec 4, 2005 | 08:10 PM
  #4  
lucidvtec's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 687
Likes: 0
From: HOT AS HELL, az, usa
Default

has anyone used dizzy king before...

thx for the model #
Reply
Old Dec 4, 2005 | 08:23 PM
  #5  
BlueShadow's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 4,408
Likes: 4
From: Somewhere in California
Default Re: (lucidvtec)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by lucidvtec &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">has anyone used dizzy king before...

thx for the model #</TD></TR></TABLE>

I've heard of a few people having their dizzy king dizzys take a crap on them. Full-Race has OBD 0, 1 and 2 dizzys for sale for $269. I bought the OBD 1 dizzy and used it on my B18C, and 3000 miles later still running good.

http://www.full-race.com/catal...8_149
Reply
Old Dec 4, 2005 | 08:46 PM
  #6  
turncoat's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 88
Likes: 0
From: Toronto, ON, Canada
Default Re: (BlueShadow)


http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...wItem

I bought one from these guys, it was definitely a brand new TD-44U and I had no problems with it over a few thousand km. I even checked all resistances before I installed it, it was fine. $140.

I am not vouching for them as a business, these guys have a horrible name in JDM importing, and for good reason since they sell a lot of crappy, broken blocks that they should have never made it out of the sea crate. But, I figured they are 30 minutes away from me, and they had no problems in taking it back if I had problems, which I haven't.

So I'm not saying your should buy it from them, just giving you my experience, take it if you will.

By the way, if it's the coil that's fried, why don't you just replace the coil? Or the ICM, it can be replaced too.
Reply
Old Dec 4, 2005 | 09:54 PM
  #7  
lucidvtec's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 687
Likes: 0
From: HOT AS HELL, az, usa
Default

the dizzy had 180k...due to a way i wired the stock coil it fried some wiring...i was able to still use it doing a external coil...plus i'm **** about parts...i fig just replace the whole thing and not have to worry about it
Reply
Old Dec 5, 2005 | 12:55 AM
  #8  
lucidvtec's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 687
Likes: 0
From: HOT AS HELL, az, usa
Default

lmao...i luv the tech info here....jp
Reply
Old Dec 5, 2005 | 10:47 AM
  #9  
lucidvtec's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 687
Likes: 0
From: HOT AS HELL, az, usa
Default

ok ok...anybody else with "DIZZY" experiance....or can anyone help out...i want more feedback plz
Reply
Old Dec 5, 2005 | 12:22 PM
  #10  
lucidvtec's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 687
Likes: 0
From: HOT AS HELL, az, usa
Default

OMG.....umm more info plz
Reply
Old Dec 5, 2005 | 12:47 PM
  #11  
lucidvtec's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 687
Likes: 0
From: HOT AS HELL, az, usa
Default

hey someone told me my problem could be because i'm usin the msd blaster 2 coil...and i should be usin the blaster ss coil....anybody...this could save me some money
Reply
Old Dec 5, 2005 | 12:52 PM
  #12  
LoseRPunKx182's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 3,382
Likes: 1
From: UT
Default Re: (lucidvtec)

my dizzy king's holding up since summer
Reply
Old Dec 5, 2005 | 04:14 PM
  #13  
lucidvtec's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 687
Likes: 0
From: HOT AS HELL, az, usa
Default

i just changed the coil over to the ss...i had a bad connection on the other coil....i'm gonna replace the rotor as well....can i replace the ignitor..and where to get one???
Reply
Old Dec 5, 2005 | 05:58 PM
  #14  
Syner-G-Racing LLC's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 933
Likes: 0
From: IN STORES NOW
Default Re: (lucidvtec)

yes you can replace the ignitor module...there about $140 bucks, you can get them through honda, or most autozones etc.

its Item 8 (item 10 is the ignitor and the heatsink, what you will actually get)

normally when the ignitor goes bad your car will just sparatically loose all power and bog down and the rpms will go crazy...after that happens a few times it normally will just kill out and not start again. there are cases though were this didnt happen and it still was bad...just take it out and test it.
Reply
Old Dec 5, 2005 | 06:16 PM
  #15  
lucidvtec's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 687
Likes: 0
From: HOT AS HELL, az, usa
Default

bump for ignitor info
Reply
Old Dec 5, 2005 | 06:59 PM
  #16  
lucidvtec's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 687
Likes: 0
From: HOT AS HELL, az, usa
Default

thx for all the reply's...i saw some stuff about ...ditching the stock ignitor all together....usin a MSD ign. amp...external coil and ..msd mod cap...i have to make some conversion box thou....

any body have luck doin this bypass
i'm lookin for longevity
Reply
Old Dec 5, 2005 | 07:23 PM
  #17  
*Boostwerks*'s Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 9,455
Likes: 3
From: I heart tool, US
Default

I'd just get the distributor king distro. Cheap, and easy, and should solve your problems. I have one in my 91 SI and it runs perfectly.
Reply
Old Dec 5, 2005 | 07:27 PM
  #18  
boosted k20's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 2,708
Likes: 1
From: new york, n.y., u.s.
Default Re: (Bryson)

um if its not really break n up at 7psi, then y dont u check the gap on ur plugs. its probably set too high which in turn is cuase n the spark to blow out. gap ur plugs to around 25-28 and see what happens
Reply
Old Dec 5, 2005 | 07:42 PM
  #19  
lucidvtec's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 687
Likes: 0
From: HOT AS HELL, az, usa
Default

they were ngk 7's....gapped at 28.....i will be going to 8's soon.....my tune wasent finished passed 7k really because of some other problems....i have those fixed...i wanna make sure the ign. is soild before going back to the dyno again......the reason i wanna get rid or changed the ignitor is becuase i might have weaked it when i fubared the coil....plus ignitors go out alot from what i hear...
Reply
Old Dec 5, 2005 | 10:59 PM
  #20  
lucidvtec's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 687
Likes: 0
From: HOT AS HELL, az, usa
Default

anybody have sucess...doin the ignitor bypass with the msd...?????????????
Reply
Old Dec 6, 2005 | 03:14 AM
  #21  
Syner-G-Racing LLC's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 933
Likes: 0
From: IN STORES NOW
Default Re: (lucidvtec)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by lucidvtec &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">anybody have sucess...doin the ignitor bypass with the msd...?????????????</TD></TR></TABLE>
If you use the circuit provided by J&S with the msd box/coil it should work just fine.

Here check this out.
http://store.summitracing.com/...w=sku hit the compare button to see both the oil filled and the epoxy ss coil.

If you read the specs...the coil you have vs the ss, its pushing 5,000 more volts and 350 us of duration compared to 220 microseconds.
the coil you have may not have been the culprit but it didnt help.
Reply
Old Dec 6, 2005 | 04:25 AM
  #22  
drumking15's Avatar
Member
 
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 2,933
Likes: 1
From: northern, ma, US
Default Re: (Syner-G-Racing)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Syner-G-Racing &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yes you can replace the ignitor module...there about $140 bucks, you can get them through honda, or most autozones etc.

its Item 8 (item 10 is the ignitor and the heatsink, what you will actually get)

normally when the ignitor goes bad your car will just sparatically loose all power and bog down and the rpms will go crazy...after that happens a few times it normally will just kill out and not start again. there are cases though were this didnt happen and it still was bad...just take it out and test it. </TD></TR></TABLE>

well just so you know...on some 93 civics the coils between tegs and stuff are the same...and you can get them seperately for under $40
Reply
Old Dec 6, 2005 | 08:04 AM
  #23  
Syner-G-Racing LLC's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 933
Likes: 0
From: IN STORES NOW
Default Re: (drumking15)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by drumking15 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

well just so you know...on some 93 civics the coils between tegs and stuff are the same...and you can get them seperately for under $40 </TD></TR></TABLE>

The $140 is for an ignitor module #10 not a coil #13...I can pick up a blaster coil for $26 bucks.
Reply
Old Dec 6, 2005 | 08:28 AM
  #24  
Muckman's Avatar
Moderator in Chief
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 9,506
Likes: 7
From: Buffalo, NY
Default Re: GSR dizzy

I cant believe the lack of tech info or reviews about Distributor King dizzys. I think they are junk. They are problem fine for a regular car that just needs a normal cheap replacement but not for a high rpm performance car.

My OEM ICM was going bad so I decided to buy a whole new dizzy from the Distributor King and had nothing but problems. The problems I had came from the cam/crank sensors reporting erratic signals. Basically at a certain RPM the signals would become garbled causing a ton of timing errors and it would act as a rev limiter. Im running the AEM EMS which is hyper sensitive to sensor inputs which probably magnified the problem so perhaps a stock ECU would be more forgiving. Anyways I exchanged it 4 times and each Distributor King dizzy had the same problem at a different rpm threshold.
Reply
Old Dec 6, 2005 | 09:10 AM
  #25  
green_GSR's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Apr 2000
Posts: 246
Likes: 0
Default Re: GSR dizzy

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Muckman &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I cant believe the lack of tech info or reviews about Distributor King dizzys. I think they are junk. They are problem fine for a regular car that just needs a normal cheap replacement but not for a high rpm performance car.

My OEM ICM was going bad so I decided to buy a whole new dizzy from the Distributor King and had nothing but problems. The problems I had came from the cam/crank sensors reporting erratic signals. Basically at a certain RPM the signals would become garbled causing a ton of timing errors and it would act as a rev limiter. Im running the AEM EMS which is hyper sensitive to sensor inputs which probably magnified the problem so perhaps a stock ECU would be more forgiving. Anyways I exchanged it 4 times and each Distributor King dizzy had the same problem at a different rpm threshold.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Exactly!

Instead of doing any kind of mix 'n match and hoping they'll work, I highly suugest that you get a whole brand new distrubutor (everything) from Honda. Distributor King's dizzy are just plain horrible other than factory replacement for stock cars.
Reply



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 01:19 PM.