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Old Dec 3, 2005 | 04:46 PM
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My set up as of 12/03/05:

Car: 1990 Accord 4 door Lx

Engine Block: '93 H22a "bored and stroked" to 2.44ltrs of displacement built by Collective Racing. Custom 98mm Crank, 89mm Darton sleeves, Crower Pro-billet rods, 12/1 compression 89mm JE pistons, Prodrive oil pump, ATR crank pulley, manual timing belt tensioner conversion, ARP main studs.

Cylinder head: Portwork by Collective Racing, Web Cams camshafts (89/267), Web Cams springs and Titainium retainers, ITR LMAs, 50mm TWM ITBs, Hondata intake manifold gasket, RC engineering 440cc Fuel injectors, STR cam seal, STR cam gears, RMF 4-1 header, ARP head studs, Cometic head gasket.

Transmission: T2T4, prodrive 4.7 FD, carbon synchros

Misc: NGK wires, NepTune engine management, 2 1/2" crunch bent exaust

I did a cylinder leakage test on 12/01/05 which was 3% across the board. Compression test was 240Psi +/- 5psi across the board. This engine to date has (still, due to lack of driving recently) 56K miles on it.



I am posting in lieu of recent "controversy" over mods done to my car. I have remained silent about recent events as to let the figures and the actions of individuals involved speak for themselves.

Today at Locash Racing, Joe tested (bolt on only) my new version of a RMF header built for my car. I will only be comparing this new header to the previous RMF header.

This header looks very similiar to the EG race header that Randy has pictured at IPH, however it is fitted to my car. Seat of the pants felt absolutely KILLER!

Randy and I drove the car to Locash racing for a PRELIMINARY TEST. NO FUEL TUNING WAS DONE. The header made more peak HP and peak TQ than his last design. The intake temps were controlled by Joe and he tried to keep them as close to the previous testing temps as possible. I believe todays intake temps were slightly higher than before. Also the A/F was really rich.

This header peaked out at 260hp and 201tq (open header). The header is not 100% finished and this test was only to serve as "data gathering" for Randy. A few changes are to be made and at that point the header will then be tuned with a full exaust.

I will post todays graph as soon as I recieve it from Locash.


I want to thank Randy for his help on this project and Joe Sawyer for the use of his tuning facility.



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Old Dec 3, 2005 | 06:22 PM
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Scott, this is gonna get fun....lol.
keep working on it.we will meet sometime .....lol
This is not to jack your thread at all.....I am here to compliment ya and to give you a little nudge/competition lol.
it seems you and I are the only ones doing significant stuff with the "old" h22...lol

I have an 89Bx91S h22 street engine, 12:1 and vtec cams.....coming soon.....I just wanna see how much can be wound out of relatively stock displacement....I have gone to 89 bore cause most people do anyways.
yes, Randy is making a set of pipes for it....RMF
we are gonna try to not blow it up ! lol.....but, I will say I am pushing the limits of everything.
we will break it in and run it on the engine dyno...same brand of dyno as DonF except it can snuff twice the torque/hp....then I will put it on a MUSTANG dyno, same one as the h27 ( provide it survives the engine dyno) LOL......if you wanna win you have to have no fear of breaking stuff....THEN , if it is still running...lol....I will take it to Toronto put it on a DYNOJET to calm all the HT'ers whom God speaks ONLY through dynojet instruments LOL.
I am having fun......are you? lol


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Old Dec 3, 2005 | 06:23 PM
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Oh...forgot.....tidbit of info...Intake has 15mm of lift......lol
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Old Dec 3, 2005 | 06:23 PM
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good **** bro, cant wait to see what the new head does!
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Old Dec 3, 2005 | 06:39 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PocketRockets Racing &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
it seems you and I are the only ones doing significant stuff with the "old" h22...lol
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I'm here...

We'll see what she can do in a few weeks.
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Old Dec 3, 2005 | 06:56 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jd3jdm &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

I'm here...

We'll see what she can do in a few weeks.</TD></TR></TABLE>

great!.....wind it up.....


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Old Dec 3, 2005 | 07:02 PM
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Good numbers-I have a friend with an H22 who might be very interested in one of these headers.
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Old Dec 3, 2005 | 08:16 PM
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Locash has their Dynapack setup to read similar to Dynojets in the area, right? I think I remember hearing that somewhere.

Great results man. Must be fun to drive
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Old Dec 3, 2005 | 08:19 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PocketRockets Racing &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I will take it to Toronto put it on a DYNOJET to calm all the HT'ers whom God speaks ONLY through dynojet instruments LOL.
I am having fun......are you? lol </TD></TR></TABLE>

You have an amazing way with words....lol. Yes, I hope we meet soon. Good luck with you project, I am sure you will have some good results.
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Old Dec 3, 2005 | 08:21 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sheepey &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">good **** bro, cant wait to see what the new head does!</TD></TR></TABLE> It is going on the new engine... hopefully really quick.
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Old Dec 3, 2005 | 09:37 PM
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Wow thats very impressive and scary at the same time what car is it on?
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Old Dec 3, 2005 | 10:03 PM
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Holy Crap .
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Old Dec 3, 2005 | 10:18 PM
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his car runs real good.Are you keeping the ytb's and the F.G.s (private joke)


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Old Dec 3, 2005 | 11:00 PM
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Impressive setup, torque is our friend. not to mention over 269whp is a even better friend.
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Old Dec 3, 2005 | 11:14 PM
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1320 times asap! those numbers are very impressive.
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Old Dec 4, 2005 | 02:42 AM
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graph shows flywheel hp? Great numbers
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Old Dec 4, 2005 | 04:16 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sleptonEH2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> Wow thats very impressive and scary at the same time what car is it on?</TD></TR></TABLE>

A 1990 accord 4dr...
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Old Dec 4, 2005 | 05:28 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by rochesterricer &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Locash has their Dynapack setup to read similar to Dynojets in the area, right? I think I remember hearing that somewhere.

Great results man. Must be fun to drive </TD></TR></TABLE>

Joe has told me there is very little way to compare the dynapack to the dynojet. I brought my car to a dynojet facility here in Tucson and compared the results from the first RMF header/full exaust. Both dynos read very similiar, but temps were different as well as elevation. No fuel readings were made either.
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Old Dec 4, 2005 | 05:30 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Mohsin &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">graph shows flywheel hp? Great numbers </TD></TR></TABLE>
Says "flywheel", but is measured at the hubs.
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Old Dec 4, 2005 | 06:35 AM
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very comparible numbers to a VR6. hard to tell the dyno sheets apart.
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Old Dec 4, 2005 | 10:01 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by CRXofPain &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">very comparible numbers to a VR6. hard to tell the dyno sheets apart.</TD></TR></TABLE>

VR6's are rated at over 300hp at the flywheel? They make this power to the ground? DAYUM... I need to get into a VR6.
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Old Dec 4, 2005 | 02:43 PM
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VR6's are rated at over 300hp at the flywheel? They make this power to the ground? DAYUM... I need to get into a VR6.</TD></TR></TABLE>

diddo! Hey buddy, the 89 intake cam hasnt given you any problems yet?
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VR6's are rated at over 300hp at the flywheel? They make this power to the ground? DAYUM... I need to get into a VR6.</TD></TR></TABLE>

“The Passat is getting a new narrow-angle 3.6 – that’s exciting,” Hunt says. The V-6 engine, badged the VR6, will get performance CLOSE to the 270-hp W8 Passat that had a short-lived stint in the U.S. market
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Old Dec 4, 2005 | 05:22 PM
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diddo! Hey buddy, the 89 intake cam hasnt given you any problems yet?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Seven years old and counting... What should I look for?
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Old Dec 4, 2005 | 05:52 PM
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Seven years old and counting... What should I look for?</TD></TR></TABLE>

oh , nothing. Just the lift is pretty good on em and some people run into problems because of retainer to guide clearances. Good job bro
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