NE1 here former ITR owers?
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NE1 here former ITR owers?
Never posted in this here B4. Me & the wife have been looking @ the NSX's for a while now & just wanted to know how many of U formerly had an ITR & what are the simularities/differences in the 2 cars. We still have thought about getting 1 in the next couple of years or so. Thanks. 
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Re: NE1 here former ITR owers? (HYREV2NR)
I still have an ITR along with my NSX. Does that count, or are you only interested in hearing from former owners?
Incidentally, most folks here don't use those abbreviations (NE1, B4, U, etc) that little kids use when sending messages in chatrooms to their classmates in middle school...
Incidentally, most folks here don't use those abbreviations (NE1, B4, U, etc) that little kids use when sending messages in chatrooms to their classmates in middle school...
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Re: NE1 here former ITR owers? (nsxtasy)
4-get I even asked the ? since I have to 2 B politcly correct in here. If U have that much of a problem w/ something so insignifigate then just report me 2 a Moderator if it makes U feel better. It's just like asking a simple ? & someone says, (just do a search). I'm sure there are alot more NSX owners that have a much better attitude than U. 
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by HYREV2NR »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">4-get I even asked the ? since I have to 2 B politcly correct in here. If U have that much of a problem w/ something so insignifigate then just report me 2 a Moderator if it makes U feel better. It's just like asking a simple ? & someone says, (just do a search). I'm sure there are alot more NSX owners that have a much better attitude than U. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Well, its difficult for me to read, and I'm sure he shares the same outlook. Anyway, I never had an ITR, but I did have a B18C powered Hatch and the NSX is worlds beyond it in terms of handling, feel and overall build quality.
</TD></TR></TABLE>Well, its difficult for me to read, and I'm sure he shares the same outlook. Anyway, I never had an ITR, but I did have a B18C powered Hatch and the NSX is worlds beyond it in terms of handling, feel and overall build quality.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Hapa88 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Well, its difficult for me to read, and I'm sure he shares the same outlook. Anyway, I never had an ITR, but I did have a B18C powered Hatch and the NSX is worlds beyond it in terms of handling, feel and overall build quality.
</TD></TR></TABLE> Sorry if I seemed a bit sarcastic in my post. But back to the point, the NSX has been a car I've admired not cause I just thought it looked cool or went real fast but in the past when I'd talked to other owners who had cars such as BMW's, Merc., Porche's & the list goes on. They all seemed to have about the same opinion of the NSX. They said for the money you spend on car it's one awsome machine! I've only sat in a few of them but the one thing I liked was that everything in the interior was very driver friendly. Maybe get the chance to at least ride in one in the future before I make the decision to start handing over the cash. Anyway you look at it, it's truly an awsome car and always will be. Thanks for the reply.
Well, its difficult for me to read, and I'm sure he shares the same outlook. Anyway, I never had an ITR, but I did have a B18C powered Hatch and the NSX is worlds beyond it in terms of handling, feel and overall build quality.
</TD></TR></TABLE> Sorry if I seemed a bit sarcastic in my post. But back to the point, the NSX has been a car I've admired not cause I just thought it looked cool or went real fast but in the past when I'd talked to other owners who had cars such as BMW's, Merc., Porche's & the list goes on. They all seemed to have about the same opinion of the NSX. They said for the money you spend on car it's one awsome machine! I've only sat in a few of them but the one thing I liked was that everything in the interior was very driver friendly. Maybe get the chance to at least ride in one in the future before I make the decision to start handing over the cash. Anyway you look at it, it's truly an awsome car and always will be. Thanks for the reply.
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I have an NSX-T, and driven M3's, EVO's, turbocharged b18c's, S2000k's and many others. I would have to say that my current NSX is a more reliable and better handling machine than all of the above. While a stock NSX (get a supercharger) may not pull as hard as an M3 or Evo, stock for stock, their 1/4 mile numbers are pretty much similar. If you're serious, look for one with low miles, original paint, and out of snap range. Lastly, the NSX is one of the few cars that'll turn any heads. Especially one with a body kit and upgraded wheels and tires. Good luck. PM if you need more information.
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Originally Posted by HYREV2NR
4-get I even asked the ? since I have to 2 B politcly correct in here. If U have that much of a problem w/ something so insignifigate then just report me 2 a Moderator if it makes U feel better. It's just like asking a simple ? & someone says, (just do a search). I'm sure there are alot more NSX owners that have a much better attitude than U.
Originally Posted by HYREV2NR
Sorry if I seemed a bit sarcastic in my post. But back to the point, the NSX has been a car I've admired not cause I just thought it looked cool or went real fast but in the past when I'd talked to other owners who had cars such as BMW's, Merc., Porche's & the list goes on. They all seemed to have about the same opinion of the NSX. They said for the money you spend on car it's one awsome machine! I've only sat in a few of them but the one thing I liked was that everything in the interior was very driver friendly. Maybe get the chance to at least ride in one in the future before I make the decision to start handing over the cash. Anyway you look at it, it's truly an awsome car and always will be. Thanks for the reply.
Maybe get the chance to at least ride in one in the future before I make the decision to start handing over the cash. Anyway you look at it, it's truly an awsome car and always will be. Thanks for the reply. I'll add that (a) I was polite in my previous post, (b) it included a smilie (which means a light-hearted attitude, not to be taken overly seriously), and (c) I have experience which can answer your question. I'll assume from your second response that perhaps you understand my point.
I have both cars, and I take both cars to the racetrack as well as driving them on the street. In some ways, they are similar; in other ways, they are very different. Both cars are a huge amount of fun and are easy to drive fast, while difficult to take full advantage of all their capabilities. Both have VTEC, which means if you're driving them for maximum acceleration, you're keeping them in as low a gear as possible and winding them out to their redline (8400 on the ITR, 8000 on the NSX). Both have great suspensions and terrific handling; riding around the track, you would never believe that the ITR is front wheel drive. Both don't seem like they accelerate as fast as they do. Both cars can be modded, but both cars can be taken to the racetrack bone stock and you can have a lot of fun there. Gas mileage is similar. They are almost exactly the same length. They share the same front brake pads; the stock pads may be different, but they size and shape are the same, so they are interchangeable between the two. The front stock '91-93 NSX tire size is usable on the ITR, so when my front NSX track tires start getting worn, the ITR gets them as hand-me-downs. There aren't many of either on the road (around 9000 NSXs, 3500 ITRs have been sold in the States). When you find a good mechanic with a lot of NSX experience, chances are he (or she - my dealer has a female tech) also is familiar with the ITR.
As for differences, the ITR is fairly raw for street driving (noisy, without sound insulation, and no real luxury touches) whereas the NSX is very refined. The ITR is a magnet for theft and vandalism; the NSX is not. The ITR is much more versatile, in several ways. You can fit lots more stuff in it, and dogs or children or cramped adults in the back seat, or you can put 14 tires/wheels inside. The NSX barely holds four track tires or one other passenger and minimal baggage. Throw a set of winter tires on the ITR and it will do great in snow and ice; while you can do that on the NSX, its ground clearance makes it a less than optimal choice. As good as the ITR handling is, the NSX is even better, as is the acceleration, of course. Most of us will never approach the limits of the NSX (catch a track ride with a REALLY fast NSX driver and you will understand). The ITR is easier to enter and exit, but the electronic adjustments on the NSX seats are nicer (the ITR seats are comfortable, the NSX seats are perfect). Insurance rates on the NSX are relatively low; on the ITR they're relatively high. The NSX is better if you want to impress people; not everyone knows what the NSX is, but they can tell from looking at it that it's something special. (You would be amazed how many more people in the left lane pull over to let you pass when you're driving an NSX.)
If I had to choose which car is better for the racetrack, it's the NSX. If I had to live with only one car, I would easily choose the ITR.
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Re: NE1 here former ITR owers? (HYREV2NR)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by HYREV2NR »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">4-get I even asked the ? since I have to 2 B politcly correct in here. If U have that much of a problem w/ something so insignifigate then just report me 2 a Moderator if it makes U feel better. It's just like asking a simple ? & someone says, (just do a search). I'm sure there are alot more NSX owners that have a much better attitude than U. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Sensitive aren't we? Proper Netiquette requires the ability to communicate effectively. In fact, any two-way communication necessitates that both parties understand what is being said or written. I think nsxtasy's response was both appropriate and positive. Both times too. Consider that most regulars here, ie ak and Knightie (probably me too), would have made a joke at your expense while still answering your question. Your response, in turn, should be above perceived slights or petty grievance.
Back to the thread...
</TD></TR></TABLE>Sensitive aren't we? Proper Netiquette requires the ability to communicate effectively. In fact, any two-way communication necessitates that both parties understand what is being said or written. I think nsxtasy's response was both appropriate and positive. Both times too. Consider that most regulars here, ie ak and Knightie (probably me too), would have made a joke at your expense while still answering your question. Your response, in turn, should be above perceived slights or petty grievance.
Back to the thread...
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by cwood1388 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">well i actually was looking at purchasing a ITR....i know i do things backwards</TD></TR></TABLE>
Unless the price is close to the same as a GSR IMO buy a GSR and a nice upgraded brake package.
Unless the price is close to the same as a GSR IMO buy a GSR and a nice upgraded brake package.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by cwood1388 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">well i actually was looking at purchasing a ITR....i know i do things backwards</TD></TR></TABLE>Wanna trade? 
Just kidding. I love the NSX but being my R was my first new car I'd have a very hard time letting it go.
Just kidding. I love the NSX but being my R was my first new car I'd have a very hard time letting it go.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nsxxtreme »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Unless the price is close to the same as a GSR IMO buy a GSR and a nice upgraded brake package.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Well, we've got one of those in the household, too. (It was my daily driver before I got the ITR, now it's my SO's.) In terms of performance, the GS-R is as different from an ITR as the ITR is from the NSX. If you're just looking for transportation, the GS-R may be perfectly adequate. But if performance is a priority, there is no question at all - spend the (considerable) extra money and get the ITR.
If you're not familiar with the many differences between the GS-R and the ITR, click here.
Well, we've got one of those in the household, too. (It was my daily driver before I got the ITR, now it's my SO's.) In terms of performance, the GS-R is as different from an ITR as the ITR is from the NSX. If you're just looking for transportation, the GS-R may be perfectly adequate. But if performance is a priority, there is no question at all - spend the (considerable) extra money and get the ITR.
If you're not familiar with the many differences between the GS-R and the ITR, click here.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nsxtasy »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Well, we've got one of those in the household, too. (It was my daily driver before I got the ITR, now it's my SO's.) In terms of performance, the GS-R is as different from an ITR as the ITR is from the NSX. If you're just looking for transportation, the GS-R may be perfectly adequate. But if performance is a priority, there is no question at all - spend the (considerable) extra money and get the ITR.
If you're not familiar with the many differences between the GS-R and the ITR, click here.
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Lets go over those.
Engine drivetrain result in a 20HP increase oooooooo, Im supposed to be impressed? Intake is remonisant of the LS intake manifold.
Nothing very light moding to a GSR wouldn't compensate for.
About the only thing the Type R has that is a real advantage is the Limited slip differential. The GSR's differential isn't that bad to begin with either. If you end up with additional power short gears aren't always desired.
Body: you get a different wing big deal
Chassis.
Shock tower bar....GSR has that too although the Type R one is from a Type R so that has got to mean something right.....pffft.
Larger brakes....This and the limited slip differential are truly the only real
advantage that a Type R has over the GSR IMO. And the Type R's brakes aren't that great they are deffinetly better then the GSR's though.
Suspension....ok if you think the TypeR's shocks and springs are that much better I don't.
Subtraction of 147lbs....I kinda like the sunroof and AC and some typeR's came with this also.
5 lug hubs...woopty do my wheels never fell off and I had approx 100hp more then a Type R
Seats are subjective.....I thought they felt the same other then the Type R's looked better then GSR's. But then that is subjective also I had mine recovered, I liked the recovered ones more then the Type R's.
Not to dis on the Type R it's a nice car but definetly not worth the premium (unless you have to drive a car that says Type R) and no where near the difference Type R integra VS NSX. If you just want to drive stock the Type R is better in performance. Drive with no AC does suck though, If you got it then that was an expensive additional cost. When I asked i think I was quoted $2500 for AC......that's the same price as a JR SC or turbo for a GSR that already has AC. And the GSR cost less to begin with.
These are just my opinions.....
Modified by nsxxtreme at 11:46 AM 11/30/2005
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Lets go over those.
Engine drivetrain result in a 20HP increase oooooooo, Im supposed to be impressed? Intake is remonisant of the LS intake manifold.
Nothing very light moding to a GSR wouldn't compensate for.
About the only thing the Type R has that is a real advantage is the Limited slip differential. The GSR's differential isn't that bad to begin with either. If you end up with additional power short gears aren't always desired.
Body: you get a different wing big deal
Chassis.
Shock tower bar....GSR has that too although the Type R one is from a Type R so that has got to mean something right.....pffft.
Larger brakes....This and the limited slip differential are truly the only real
advantage that a Type R has over the GSR IMO. And the Type R's brakes aren't that great they are deffinetly better then the GSR's though.
Suspension....ok if you think the TypeR's shocks and springs are that much better I don't.
Subtraction of 147lbs....I kinda like the sunroof and AC and some typeR's came with this also.
5 lug hubs...woopty do my wheels never fell off and I had approx 100hp more then a Type R
Seats are subjective.....I thought they felt the same other then the Type R's looked better then GSR's. But then that is subjective also I had mine recovered, I liked the recovered ones more then the Type R's.
Not to dis on the Type R it's a nice car but definetly not worth the premium (unless you have to drive a car that says Type R) and no where near the difference Type R integra VS NSX. If you just want to drive stock the Type R is better in performance. Drive with no AC does suck though, If you got it then that was an expensive additional cost. When I asked i think I was quoted $2500 for AC......that's the same price as a JR SC or turbo for a GSR that already has AC. And the GSR cost less to begin with.
These are just my opinions.....
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nsxxtreme »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">These are just my opinions.....</TD></TR></TABLE>
You probably haven't owned both, and perhaps you have never owned either one. You've almost certainly never driven either one hard, such as on a racetrack. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I highly doubt it. There are so many ridiculously silly statements in one post (just about every sentence says something that's just not true) that it's not even worth trying to rebut one false point after another after yet another. Your post displays more ignorance about the ITR than I have seen in the past six months in the entire ITR forum. It's an embarrassment to hear that much ignorance from another NSX owner, talking trash about a car that he's never owned. You sound like you've acquired a "sour grapes" jealous attitude from owning a GS-R and from never owning a Type R, and have been trying to talk yourself into thinking they're equivalent ever since. In fact, you sound EXACTLY like people who get a Mustang or a Camaro and claim that they're "just as good" as an "overpriced" NSX (yeah, right).
Unlike you, I have owned and tracked both, and lived with both of them as daily drivers for years. I've also ridden in several highly modded (forced induction) GS-R's (and ITR's and NSX's) on the track. And I'll say it again, based on experience, rather than jealousy:
In terms of performance, the GS-R is as different from an ITR as the ITR is from the NSX. If you're just looking for transportation, the GS-R may be perfectly adequate. But if performance is a priority, there is no question at all - spend the (considerable) extra money and get the ITR.
Modified by nsxtasy at 2:35 PM 11/30/2005
You probably haven't owned both, and perhaps you have never owned either one. You've almost certainly never driven either one hard, such as on a racetrack. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I highly doubt it. There are so many ridiculously silly statements in one post (just about every sentence says something that's just not true) that it's not even worth trying to rebut one false point after another after yet another. Your post displays more ignorance about the ITR than I have seen in the past six months in the entire ITR forum. It's an embarrassment to hear that much ignorance from another NSX owner, talking trash about a car that he's never owned. You sound like you've acquired a "sour grapes" jealous attitude from owning a GS-R and from never owning a Type R, and have been trying to talk yourself into thinking they're equivalent ever since. In fact, you sound EXACTLY like people who get a Mustang or a Camaro and claim that they're "just as good" as an "overpriced" NSX (yeah, right).
Unlike you, I have owned and tracked both, and lived with both of them as daily drivers for years. I've also ridden in several highly modded (forced induction) GS-R's (and ITR's and NSX's) on the track. And I'll say it again, based on experience, rather than jealousy:
In terms of performance, the GS-R is as different from an ITR as the ITR is from the NSX. If you're just looking for transportation, the GS-R may be perfectly adequate. But if performance is a priority, there is no question at all - spend the (considerable) extra money and get the ITR.
Modified by nsxtasy at 2:35 PM 11/30/2005
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nsxtasy »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You probably haven't owned both, and perhaps you have never owned either one. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Lol a typical nsxtasy assumtion.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nsxtasy »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">based on experience, rather than jealousy:
</TD></TR></TABLE>your an idiot or just an *** clown.
Yes I owned a GSR I bought it new in 98. Drove the living **** out of it. Test drove both. Decided on the GSR, mostly because it came without AC and sunroof and cost more. Bought FI for my GSR for the same as what I would have spent on AC for a type R and was as happy as could be.
Friend had a Yellow type R (dont remeber the year). His car felt like a turtle compared to a FI GSR and I spent less then him. A race to anywhere wasn't even close. And yes I drove his car regularly that's why I said it felt like a turtle.
Time to bust out the magazines nsxtasy.
Again completely stock a type R has better performance no argument there. But you spend a premium for it and you loose luxury items. The cost to bring a GSR beyond Type R performance is less then a Type R with the extras a GSR has.
Lol a typical nsxtasy assumtion.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nsxtasy »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">based on experience, rather than jealousy:
</TD></TR></TABLE>your an idiot or just an *** clown.
Yes I owned a GSR I bought it new in 98. Drove the living **** out of it. Test drove both. Decided on the GSR, mostly because it came without AC and sunroof and cost more. Bought FI for my GSR for the same as what I would have spent on AC for a type R and was as happy as could be.
Friend had a Yellow type R (dont remeber the year). His car felt like a turtle compared to a FI GSR and I spent less then him. A race to anywhere wasn't even close. And yes I drove his car regularly that's why I said it felt like a turtle.
Time to bust out the magazines nsxtasy.
Again completely stock a type R has better performance no argument there. But you spend a premium for it and you loose luxury items. The cost to bring a GSR beyond Type R performance is less then a Type R with the extras a GSR has.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nsxxtreme »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Lol a typical nsxtasy assumtion.
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Typical personal attacks. When you don't have anything rational to base your wild-*** claims on, try a bunch of insults. You continue to embarrass yourself with your ignorance.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nsxxtreme »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yes I owned a GSR I bought it new in 98.</TD></TR></TABLE>
And never owned a Type R. EXACTLY like I said. And again, by dissing a car that you've never owned, you continue to sound EXACTLY like people who get a Mustang or a Camaro and claim that they're "just as good" as an "overpriced" NSX.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nsxxtreme »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Decided on the GSR, mostly because it came without AC and sunroof and cost more.</TD></TR></TABLE>
So tell me, which is the better deal:
1) A GS-R that costs $20K, that you spend $2-10K on mods for, and after five years is worth $8K, or
2) An ITR that is a MUCH better car (even after the GS-R is modded), and costs $23K, that you spend $0 on mods for, and after five years is worth $19K.
We're all waiting...
Incidentally, my ITR came with air conditioning as standard equipment.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nsxxtreme »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Friend had a Yellow type R (dont remeber the year). His car felt like a turtle compared to a FI GSR and I spent less then him. A race to anywhere wasn't even close.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I've ridden in several FI GSR's and frankly, every single one of them drove like crap, and had an endless series of problems (including one that caught on fire). Were they faster than an ITR? Yes, before they caught on fire or broke down. I have yet to see one finish an entire track event without encountering a major mechanical problem that sidelined it.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nsxxtreme »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The cost to bring a GSR beyond Type R performance is less then a Type R with the extras a GSR has.</TD></TR></TABLE>
And you will lose MUCH MUCH more money in depreciation with the GS-R.
So tell us again, which is the better deal:
1) A GS-R that costs $20K, that you spend $2-10K on mods for, and after five years is worth $8K, or
2) An ITR that is a MUCH better car (even after the GS-R is modded), and costs $23K, that you spend $0 on mods for, and after five years is worth $19K.
We're all waiting...
Modified by nsxtasy at 2:56 PM 11/30/2005
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Typical personal attacks. When you don't have anything rational to base your wild-*** claims on, try a bunch of insults. You continue to embarrass yourself with your ignorance.
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And never owned a Type R. EXACTLY like I said. And again, by dissing a car that you've never owned, you continue to sound EXACTLY like people who get a Mustang or a Camaro and claim that they're "just as good" as an "overpriced" NSX.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nsxxtreme »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Decided on the GSR, mostly because it came without AC and sunroof and cost more.</TD></TR></TABLE>
So tell me, which is the better deal:
1) A GS-R that costs $20K, that you spend $2-10K on mods for, and after five years is worth $8K, or
2) An ITR that is a MUCH better car (even after the GS-R is modded), and costs $23K, that you spend $0 on mods for, and after five years is worth $19K.
We're all waiting...
Incidentally, my ITR came with air conditioning as standard equipment.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nsxxtreme »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Friend had a Yellow type R (dont remeber the year). His car felt like a turtle compared to a FI GSR and I spent less then him. A race to anywhere wasn't even close.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I've ridden in several FI GSR's and frankly, every single one of them drove like crap, and had an endless series of problems (including one that caught on fire). Were they faster than an ITR? Yes, before they caught on fire or broke down. I have yet to see one finish an entire track event without encountering a major mechanical problem that sidelined it.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nsxxtreme »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The cost to bring a GSR beyond Type R performance is less then a Type R with the extras a GSR has.</TD></TR></TABLE>
And you will lose MUCH MUCH more money in depreciation with the GS-R.
So tell us again, which is the better deal:
1) A GS-R that costs $20K, that you spend $2-10K on mods for, and after five years is worth $8K, or
2) An ITR that is a MUCH better car (even after the GS-R is modded), and costs $23K, that you spend $0 on mods for, and after five years is worth $19K.
We're all waiting...
Modified by nsxtasy at 2:56 PM 11/30/2005
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Life is grand! And I love the NSX forum!
Keep the personal attacks, direct and indirect, to a minimum bitte. Is it me or am I the only one who misses this sort of discussion?
Back to the thread...and bring the tech!
Keep the personal attacks, direct and indirect, to a minimum bitte. Is it me or am I the only one who misses this sort of discussion?
Back to the thread...and bring the tech!
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Oh and if I had my druthers, I'd get the ITR. They're what, 13-16k now? Insurance would be only thing I'd have hesitation on.
I'm working on my various reasons for the ITR...
I'm working on my various reasons for the ITR...
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First its pointless to argue with you. You never quite and always assume your right.
And second I said these were my opinions.
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Typical personal attack. When you don't have anything rational to base your false claims on, try an insult. You continue to embarrass </TD></TR></TABLE>
oh please get over yourself. I say typical because that is factual.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nsxtasy »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">And again, by dissing a car that you've never owned and never driven</TD></TR></TABLE> Never driven I said that........hmmm I must be losing my mind. I didn't own because I chose not to. And you dont need to own a car to base an opinion on a car you have DRIVEN regularly. Hell I down own my girlfriends truck but I drive it as if it's mine. We bought it new in 98 also.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nsxtasy »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
1) A GS-R that costs $20K, that you spend $2-10K on mods for, and after five years is worth $8K, or
2) An ITR that is a MUCH better car (even after the GS-R is modded), and costs $23K, that you spend $0 on mods for, and after five years is worth $19K.
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MUCH better is an opinion I suppose its much better because it says type R *shrug*
And a Type R doesn't hold that kind of resale around were I live. The one nearest me is 2K more then a GSR. I have seen them go for similiar pricing in the past.
You don't need to spend $10k on a GSR I spent $2.5k the same price I would have spent to get AC on a Type R. I spent less on the GSR then I would have if I bought a Type R. I still had over $2k more I could have spent on other things that would have put me under what a Type R with AC cost. Yes later model type R's came with AC but now they don't benefit from the weight reduction anymore do they? Dont try to tell me a 98 Type R came with AC as standard equipment.
I took my FI off and sold it for $2K her on HT. Sold the car for $16K I lost $4500.
I also never once had a problem with my FI. Other than it ate my gas a lot faster. As far as driving like crap you must be driving in shitty cars. The entire HP and TQ curve moves up not a dip in a single location. I don't know how that is shitty.
I agree if the price is similiar buy the Type R. Your FI options are reduced on a stock type R vs a stock GSR though. The Type R has a higher compression ratio that is less friendly to FI. I cant live without AC so....not an option for me.
Modified by nsxxtreme at 2:03 PM 11/30/2005
And second I said these were my opinions.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nsxtasy »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Typical personal attack. When you don't have anything rational to base your false claims on, try an insult. You continue to embarrass </TD></TR></TABLE>
oh please get over yourself. I say typical because that is factual.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nsxtasy »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">And again, by dissing a car that you've never owned and never driven</TD></TR></TABLE> Never driven I said that........hmmm I must be losing my mind. I didn't own because I chose not to. And you dont need to own a car to base an opinion on a car you have DRIVEN regularly. Hell I down own my girlfriends truck but I drive it as if it's mine. We bought it new in 98 also.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nsxtasy »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
1) A GS-R that costs $20K, that you spend $2-10K on mods for, and after five years is worth $8K, or
2) An ITR that is a MUCH better car (even after the GS-R is modded), and costs $23K, that you spend $0 on mods for, and after five years is worth $19K.
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MUCH better is an opinion
I suppose its much better because it says type R *shrug*And a Type R doesn't hold that kind of resale around were I live. The one nearest me is 2K more then a GSR. I have seen them go for similiar pricing in the past.
You don't need to spend $10k on a GSR I spent $2.5k the same price I would have spent to get AC on a Type R. I spent less on the GSR then I would have if I bought a Type R. I still had over $2k more I could have spent on other things that would have put me under what a Type R with AC cost. Yes later model type R's came with AC but now they don't benefit from the weight reduction anymore do they? Dont try to tell me a 98 Type R came with AC as standard equipment.
I took my FI off and sold it for $2K her on HT. Sold the car for $16K I lost $4500.
I also never once had a problem with my FI. Other than it ate my gas a lot faster. As far as driving like crap you must be driving in shitty cars. The entire HP and TQ curve moves up not a dip in a single location. I don't know how that is shitty.
I agree if the price is similiar buy the Type R. Your FI options are reduced on a stock type R vs a stock GSR though. The Type R has a higher compression ratio that is less friendly to FI. I cant live without AC so....not an option for me.
Modified by nsxxtreme at 2:03 PM 11/30/2005
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nsxxtreme »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">First its pointless to argue with you. You never quite and always assume your right.
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oh please get over yourself.</TD></TR></TABLE>
The fact that you are again resorting to insults and personal attacks (even now, after our moderator's warning) just show how lame your arguments are. I guess when you've got nothing to argue, you may as well try snowing 'em with baloney. Too bad for you that it is so transparently clear that you are trying to use insults to distract from your lack of support for your ridiculous claims. For example, EVERYONE can see that you failed to answer the question about which car is the better deal.
GS-R's typically sell used for anywhere from $5K to $12K, depending on mileage and model year. ITR's typically sell for $13-20K, with the same caveats; with similar year and mileage and condition, the premium is $7K (and the disparity tends to widen over time, as the GS-R depreciates more than the ITR). If there are ITR's in your area selling for only $2K more than GS-R's of similar vintage and mileage, please show me, because I'd be happy to buy a dozen of them. Heck, I'll even give you a commission on the purchase. Of course, they are like those mint condition used NSX's for under $20K - everyone says you can find them; the only problem is, they don't exist.
As for the modded GS-R's I've seen - you're right, I can only go by the ones I've seen. The ones where the owner tells others, "Don't let it rev over 6500 because of something that's not quite right". The ones that can't finish an entire weekend without breaking down. Maybe yours is different from the 3-4 I've ridden in. Or maybe you've just been lucky.
The Integra Type R is a very fine car, ready for the racetrack right off the showroom floor. The GS-R isn't, and needs a lot of work before going to the track (and even then is still inadequate, based on the ones I've seen). If you're looking for performance, the ITR is better. If you're looking for transportation, the GS-R may be fine. If you're looking for a car to mod, I've heard others say that the LS might be an even better bet than either one. And better yet for modding is a Camaro or Mustang. You know, the ones that are "just as good" as an "overpriced" NSX.
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oh please get over yourself.</TD></TR></TABLE>
The fact that you are again resorting to insults and personal attacks (even now, after our moderator's warning) just show how lame your arguments are. I guess when you've got nothing to argue, you may as well try snowing 'em with baloney. Too bad for you that it is so transparently clear that you are trying to use insults to distract from your lack of support for your ridiculous claims. For example, EVERYONE can see that you failed to answer the question about which car is the better deal.
GS-R's typically sell used for anywhere from $5K to $12K, depending on mileage and model year. ITR's typically sell for $13-20K, with the same caveats; with similar year and mileage and condition, the premium is $7K (and the disparity tends to widen over time, as the GS-R depreciates more than the ITR). If there are ITR's in your area selling for only $2K more than GS-R's of similar vintage and mileage, please show me, because I'd be happy to buy a dozen of them. Heck, I'll even give you a commission on the purchase. Of course, they are like those mint condition used NSX's for under $20K - everyone says you can find them; the only problem is, they don't exist.
As for the modded GS-R's I've seen - you're right, I can only go by the ones I've seen. The ones where the owner tells others, "Don't let it rev over 6500 because of something that's not quite right". The ones that can't finish an entire weekend without breaking down. Maybe yours is different from the 3-4 I've ridden in. Or maybe you've just been lucky.
The Integra Type R is a very fine car, ready for the racetrack right off the showroom floor. The GS-R isn't, and needs a lot of work before going to the track (and even then is still inadequate, based on the ones I've seen). If you're looking for performance, the ITR is better. If you're looking for transportation, the GS-R may be fine. If you're looking for a car to mod, I've heard others say that the LS might be an even better bet than either one. And better yet for modding is a Camaro or Mustang. You know, the ones that are "just as good" as an "overpriced" NSX.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nsxtasy »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The fact that you are again resorting to insults and personal attacks (even now, after our moderator's warning) just show how lame your arguments are. I guess when you've got nothing to argue, you may as well try snowing 'em with baloney. Too bad for you that it is so transparently clear that you are trying to use insults to distract from your lack of support for your ridiculous claims.
</TD></TR></TABLE>*rolls eyes* *yawns* .........next
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nsxtasy »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">GS-R's typically sell for anywhere from $5K to $12K, depending on mileage and model year. ITR's typically sell for $13-20K, with the same caveats. If there are ITR's selling for only $2K more than GS-R's of similar vintage and mileage, please show me, because I'd be happy to buy a dozen of them. That's like those mint condition used NSX's for under $20K - everyone says you can find them; the only problem is, they don't exist.</TD></TR></TABLE>
A car is worth what someone is willing to pay no more no less. You could go around in circles with argument.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nsxtasy »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">As for the modded GS-R's I've seen - you're right, I can only go by the ones I've seen. The ones where the owner tells others, "Don't let it rev over 6500 because of something that's not quite right". The ones that can't finish an entire weekend without breaking down. Maybe yours is different from the 3-4 I've ridden in. Or maybe you've just been lucky.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Just like with the NSX and FI its all in the tuning. You should know this by now. I took my car to 8k regularly...no problems and the person who bought my FI hasn't had any problems either.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nsxtasy »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The Integra Type R is a very fine car, ready for the racetrack right off the showroom floor. </TD></TR></TABLE> Agreed just not worth the premium IMO.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nsxtasy »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The GS-R isn't, and needs a lot of work before going to the track (and even then is still inadequate, based on the ones I've seen).</TD></TR></TABLE> Not a lot of work some yes.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nsxtasy »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If you're looking for transportation, the GS-R may be fine. If you're looking for a car to mod, I've heard others say that the LS might be an even better bet than either one. And better yet for modding is a Camaro or Mustang. You know, the ones that are "just as good" as an "overpriced" NSX.
</TD></TR></TABLE>It's the same car with different options the NSX VS Camaro is a completely different car. Its still an Integra placeing a Type R badge on the car does not change that. I dont even consider the Type R as being "exclusive" to the owner yes, to everyone else your still driving an Integra.
</TD></TR></TABLE>*rolls eyes* *yawns* .........next
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nsxtasy »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">GS-R's typically sell for anywhere from $5K to $12K, depending on mileage and model year. ITR's typically sell for $13-20K, with the same caveats. If there are ITR's selling for only $2K more than GS-R's of similar vintage and mileage, please show me, because I'd be happy to buy a dozen of them. That's like those mint condition used NSX's for under $20K - everyone says you can find them; the only problem is, they don't exist.</TD></TR></TABLE>
A car is worth what someone is willing to pay no more no less. You could go around in circles with argument.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nsxtasy »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">As for the modded GS-R's I've seen - you're right, I can only go by the ones I've seen. The ones where the owner tells others, "Don't let it rev over 6500 because of something that's not quite right". The ones that can't finish an entire weekend without breaking down. Maybe yours is different from the 3-4 I've ridden in. Or maybe you've just been lucky.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Just like with the NSX and FI its all in the tuning. You should know this by now. I took my car to 8k regularly...no problems and the person who bought my FI hasn't had any problems either.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nsxtasy »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The Integra Type R is a very fine car, ready for the racetrack right off the showroom floor. </TD></TR></TABLE> Agreed just not worth the premium IMO.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nsxtasy »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The GS-R isn't, and needs a lot of work before going to the track (and even then is still inadequate, based on the ones I've seen).</TD></TR></TABLE> Not a lot of work some yes.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nsxtasy »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If you're looking for transportation, the GS-R may be fine. If you're looking for a car to mod, I've heard others say that the LS might be an even better bet than either one. And better yet for modding is a Camaro or Mustang. You know, the ones that are "just as good" as an "overpriced" NSX.
</TD></TR></TABLE>It's the same car with different options the NSX VS Camaro is a completely different car. Its still an Integra placeing a Type R badge on the car does not change that. I dont even consider the Type R as being "exclusive" to the owner yes, to everyone else your still driving an Integra.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nsxxtreme »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">*rolls eyes* *yawns* .........next</TD></TR></TABLE>
Still at it...
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nsxxtreme »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">A car is worth what someone is willing to pay no more no less. You could go around in circles with argument. </TD></TR></TABLE>
That's a lame way of trying to distract from the fact that you're unable to back up your 382nd ridiculous claim, the one where you claimed that an ITR costs only $2K more than a GS-R.
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When NSX owners attack, tonight on FOX.
lol
Be civil folks, we're not children.
I've driven both but owned neither and I know the two cars are no comparison.(I'm on topc BTW)
The NSX has almost twice the displacement has a little thing called torque, well, it's torquey for a HSO motor anyway. I always thought before driving an NSX it would be tail happy like the MR.2 Turbo being MR and all. It's not though, very neutral. In the Type R, you've got understeer as a result of having the wrong wheels driven. You literally have to drive the car like you hate it to make it move.
So to me, they are completely different cars nowhere near the same ballpark.
As far as the GSR/Type R comparison goes, you can't break it down by price and parts as far as I am concerned.
You pay for a complete package, is the GSR from the dealer comparible to a Type R? They're both Integra's and that's about as far as it goes IMHO.
I've driven both and the GSr wallows and understeers MUCH worse than a GSR. It accelerates slower. It comes with a bunch of things that don't concern me when I am trying to go fast and if the deal on my first RX-7 hadn't been so good, it would be in my garage right now. I'd never own an Integra that wasn't a Type R. And that's my $.02.
lol
Be civil folks, we're not children.
I've driven both but owned neither and I know the two cars are no comparison.(I'm on topc BTW)
The NSX has almost twice the displacement has a little thing called torque, well, it's torquey for a HSO motor anyway. I always thought before driving an NSX it would be tail happy like the MR.2 Turbo being MR and all. It's not though, very neutral. In the Type R, you've got understeer as a result of having the wrong wheels driven.
You literally have to drive the car like you hate it to make it move.So to me, they are completely different cars nowhere near the same ballpark.
As far as the GSR/Type R comparison goes, you can't break it down by price and parts as far as I am concerned.
You pay for a complete package, is the GSR from the dealer comparible to a Type R? They're both Integra's and that's about as far as it goes IMHO.
I've driven both and the GSr wallows and understeers MUCH worse than a GSR. It accelerates slower. It comes with a bunch of things that don't concern me when I am trying to go fast and if the deal on my first RX-7 hadn't been so good, it would be in my garage right now. I'd never own an Integra that wasn't a Type R. And that's my $.02.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Knightsport »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">When NSX owners attack, tonight on FOX.
lol</TD></TR></TABLE>
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Knightsport »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">They're both Integra's and that's about as far as it goes IMHO.</TD></TR></TABLE> Agreed.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Knightsport »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">if the deal on my first RX-7 hadn't been so good</TD></TR></TABLE>
Even that car need the boost turned up to be truely enjoyable And has AC I thought that would never matter until going from a car that had it to a car that doesn't. Driving in the summer sucks, my current daily beater has no AC 
Which is an LS integra imagine that....
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nsxtasy »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">That's a lame way of trying to distract from the fact that you're unable to back up your 382nd ridiculous claim, the one where you claimed that an ITR costs only $2K more than a GS-R.
</TD></TR></TABLE> Do your own research....www.autotrader.com comparing 5000 intergra's to one Type R sale doesn't obviously work. You would obviously need to weight those sales. When shopping for a car you obviously do that.
I would take a GSR under boost over a stock Type R anyday. After driving a GSR with boost every Integra afterwards felt like a turtle mobile.
Modified by nsxxtreme at 4:40 PM 11/30/2005
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Knightsport »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">They're both Integra's and that's about as far as it goes IMHO.</TD></TR></TABLE> Agreed.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Knightsport »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">if the deal on my first RX-7 hadn't been so good</TD></TR></TABLE>
Even that car need the boost turned up to be truely enjoyable
And has AC I thought that would never matter until going from a car that had it to a car that doesn't. Driving in the summer sucks, my current daily beater has no AC Which is an LS integra imagine that....<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nsxtasy »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">That's a lame way of trying to distract from the fact that you're unable to back up your 382nd ridiculous claim, the one where you claimed that an ITR costs only $2K more than a GS-R.
</TD></TR></TABLE> Do your own research....www.autotrader.com comparing 5000 intergra's to one Type R sale doesn't obviously work. You would obviously need to weight those sales. When shopping for a car you obviously do that.
I would take a GSR under boost over a stock Type R anyday. After driving a GSR with boost every Integra afterwards felt like a turtle mobile.
Modified by nsxxtreme at 4:40 PM 11/30/2005
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nsxxtreme »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Do your own research....</TD></TR></TABLE>
I already have, on autotrader as well as h-t.com. I know what both cars generally sell for. I keep an eye on the value of the cars that I own. I can tell you within $1000-1500 what a given car is worth. And, for similar year, miles, and condition, a Type R currently sells for around $7K more than a GS-R. The difference was around $3K in MSRP and around $4K in actual selling price when the cars were new. The GS-R has depreciated faster than the ITR, as reflected in the widening difference in market values. You can easily find decent GS-Rs for $5-8K, but nice ITRs start around $14K or so.
I already have, on autotrader as well as h-t.com. I know what both cars generally sell for. I keep an eye on the value of the cars that I own. I can tell you within $1000-1500 what a given car is worth. And, for similar year, miles, and condition, a Type R currently sells for around $7K more than a GS-R. The difference was around $3K in MSRP and around $4K in actual selling price when the cars were new. The GS-R has depreciated faster than the ITR, as reflected in the widening difference in market values. You can easily find decent GS-Rs for $5-8K, but nice ITRs start around $14K or so.