i was just wondering some of you guys thoughts about these 2 bikes. i know the main differences are the v twin vs the inline 4 and the under seat exhaust. but other than that one if the old honda racer and the other in the new honda racer. that basically all i know about the 2. i i would just like to hear anyones input about the 2 bikes and if anyone has ridden 1 or both please tell me what u think, pros/cons.

 

bump

 

i have no experience with either .. but from what i hear, the 1000RR is better for the street, as the RC51 is more track oriented and the RR is more street friendly. Again, this is only from what i've read on here.

I know there are a few RC51 riders on here .. and i'm sure they'll give you some better info

 

I have rode both bikes and I was not at all impressed with the RC51. The 1000rr was so much more fun to ride in every aspect. Yes the RC51 is know for its torque but I was expecting more. Both bikes are very stable and very good looking. If I was to choose it would be the 1000rr no doubt but thats my .02

 

bump for more input

 

RC51's hp is more similar to a GSX-R750 and torque is more similar to 1000RR just at a lower rpm 'cause it's a v-twin and doesn't rev as high.

RC51 - 123.6hp@9250, 72.6ft-lb@8250
CBR-1000RR - 153.5@11000, 78.3@8500
GSX-R750 - 127.3@12750, 58.0@10750

 

wut about the track times of both bikes? 1/4 mile time, twisties and such?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by THE GAME IS THICK &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">wut about the track times of both bikes? 1/4 mile time, twisties and such?</TD></TR></TABLE>

RC51 ('00) - 10.96 @ 129.38mph
RC51 ('02) - 10.49 @ 132.7mph
1kRR ('04) - 10.16 @ 142.1mph
(times from Sport Rider's website)

Twisties? I'm not quite sure how to measure that. It's more subjective depending upon each rider's preferences.

Look at Schu's post about 2 vs 4. That will help shine some light on twins versus i4s.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by THE GAME IS THICK &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">wut about the track times of both bikes? 1/4 mile time, twisties and such?</TD></TR></TABLE>

RC51 has more race heritage like Nicky Hayden winning '02 Superbike against Matt Mladin...




and Colin Edwards championship in '00 & '02 WSBK battling w/Troy Bayliss and winning '02 Suzuka 8 Hours w/late Daijiro Kato ...




CBR1000RR 'looks' like the MotoGP RC211V tho.

 

well thats is kinda what was in my mind. i know that the RC51 is more track proven but i am wondering if that is because there isnt a lot of great riders riding the hondas in SuperBike these days aside from Duhamel. but even he isnt winning on the new 1000RR.

also all the stats put up were of the 00 and 02 RC51 but what about the new one or is it relatively unchanged.

also i read Mschu's post about the Vtwin to the inline 4 yesterday and it was very informative and that is actually what has got me thinking. i have been in total love and lust with the RC51 since i first saw it in 00.

maybe i just havent been in love as much with the 1000RR though since that bike is all over the road since its launch and the RC51 has never been a bike u see i huge numbers.

anyone else with info and opinions with reason are greatly appreciated.

 

Correct me if I am wrong here but the only reason that honda raced the RC51 is because the four cylinder liter bikes were too fast and not allowed to race with the V-twins hence the reason there are 750 four cylinders out there. Also if I recall correctly the 1000cc four cylinder bikes are now legal and Honda will more than likely put no more time or money into makeing the RC51 a better bike... this has been the case for the last serval years.

I too went through this decision and I am now 100% decided on getting a 1000RR because of the before mentioned info. Plus I dont really like the sound of vtwins.

 

This pic makes me happy.

...

The RR outperforms the RC51 in general, but both of these bikes have such a HUGE performance envelope that it really doesn't make any difference to a street rider. Unless you're drag racing.

If you want the best performer, then get the RR. You can also make a case for owning an RC51, due to race heritage and some people just like v-twins better. Its personal preference.

But if you have to ask, you should probably be looking at bikes with a little smaller performance envelope...just my opinion.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by falcongsr &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
This pic makes me happy.
</TD></TR></TABLE>

+1. That rear stand is sexy!

 

Buying and rc over an rr is like buying an audi a4 over an s2k. It's popularity exsist within a certain type of rider. It's not the newest or fasest thing on the street. It's a twin. It's got power from 2k-10k rpm. It has refinement and bruteforce all in one. No one can make fun of you for riding "one of those bikes that sounds like a weed wacker". It's pig and it's fun to ride...

Basically if you don't care about image and having the latest and greatest, and you want a bike that's unique and has a like all of it's own, it's the way to go. I just got mine a month ago after having an r6. Honestly, it's not a lot more powerful and it doesn't handle as well, but I've always wanted one and so far it's been a blast.

 

I did not like the way the RC51 felt ergonomically. I had the oppourtunity to ride an '02 around for about an hour last summer.

The things I liked about it was the powerband was very broad, even more so than my R1, although it lacked the peak HP, it had solid torque from idle to redline. The bike leaned really well. I didn't try too hard in the twisties seeing as it wasn't my bike and all, but I don't see how anyone can say it isn't as capable as an inline, at least in terms of street bikes.

Things I didn't like, mainly the ergo's. The sitting position with my legs was more uncomfortable than all the other bikes I've sat on. Reach was less than my R1, which makes riding upright more challenging. The only way I can describe it, is cramped upper body positioning with a very unnatural leg positioning.

My suggestion, ride both, see which one fits your body the best. I can't imagine a situation where either one wont have enough power to fulfill your needs.

 

Forgot to mention - the RC will roast your thighs after 5 minutes of stop-n-go. Something to consider if you have a hectic commute.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Albino Dragon &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Plus I dont really like the sound of vtwins.
</TD></TR></TABLE>

i just choked on my kool aid.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RC51WV &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Buying and rc over an rr is like buying an audi a4 over an s2k. It's popularity exsist within a certain type of rider. It's not the newest or fasest thing on the street. It's a twin. It's got power from 2k-10k rpm. It has refinement and bruteforce all in one. No one can make fun of you for riding "one of those bikes that sounds like a weed wacker". It's pig and it's fun to ride...

Basically if you don't care about image and having the latest and greatest, and you want a bike that's unique and has a like all of it's own, it's the way to go. I just got mine a month ago after having an r6. Honestly, it's not a lot more powerful and it doesn't handle as well, but I've always wanted one and so far it's been a blast.</TD></TR></TABLE> everything that you just mentioned in the reason i want one. i have ridden 600's and i am confident with the 1K. you dont see whole lot of them, i dont know why, and i figure it is probably a very good overall performer. and im definitely not the guy who needs the latest and greatest, i usually the guy who wants the fewest and oddest.<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 92TypeR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">My suggestion, ride both, see which one fits your body the best. I can't imagine a situation where either one wont have enough power to fulfill your needs.</TD></TR></TABLE>
im not really considering the 1000RR. i am not a huge fan of 4's. well not so much not a fan of 4's as much as i love v-twins. so it is more between the RC51 and like a Ducati S2 or S4. totally different bikes i know but thats y i am on the fence.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by marmaladeboy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Forgot to mention - the RC will roast your thighs after 5 minutes of stop-n-go. Something to consider if you have a hectic commute.</TD></TR></TABLE>

definitely wont be a commuter. will be riding it on the weekends and at night after work.

so after all this info and the 1000RR being the better performer y is the RC more expensive, heavier, less power, and overall slower?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Racer28 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">and im definitely not the guy who needs the latest and greatest, i usually the guy who wants the fewest and oddest.</TD></TR></TABLE>
That right there is why I ride a SuperHawk. You just don't see many of them around, and with the right set of pipes, it's the sweetest sounding vtwin around.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Racer28 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">so after all this info and the 1000RR being the better performer y is the RC more expensive, heavier, less power, and overall slower?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Sometimes, the amount of money spent is not proportional to the performance you get. For example, look at the Ducati 999R. 30 g's is a lot of money. No doubt, the 999R is a helluva lot of bike, too. But the Gix1k, given equal riders, will almost always out perform the 999R (summation of Sport Rider's article). And, it does so at a third of the cost. If you were to use the Gix1k as the baseline for amount of money spent, then the 999R should give you three times the performance, no?

OTOH, depending on who you ask, the 999R has syle and panache in spades that the Gix1k could never hope to match.

I see no point in purchasing a NEW RC. 03+ RCs (or is it 02+...?) are exactly the same as the 05/06 models, except for paint.

 

well the money between a used 02-03 and a new 04-05 doesnt really matter too much to me. i have a fam member who can get me one at cost so the money saved by getting a used bike wont be that much, especially knowing that the bike will have no probs and a full warranty. i am hoping that they can find an older one because i am kinda partial to the older color schemes. actually i really love the original but i know they dont have one of the sitting around. i talked to my fam earlier this week and he said there is no problem getting the bike anytime i want it and he has a power commander and a set of akrapovic exhausts sitting in the parts room. not that i need them but hey y not. in all honesty though i probably wouldnt get all that from the start considering i dont think that i would need the power gain i would probably just get an ohlins dampner unless showa makes one. might as well stay factory.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by marmaladeboy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Forgot to mention - the RC will roast your thighs after 5 minutes of stop-n-go. Something to consider if you have a hectic commute.</TD></TR></TABLE>

No it will not. I own an RC51 and I absolutely LOVE it. It will get warmer than a RR in stopped traffic but your thighs will not 'roast'. And as for the 'overheating' deal, I have not overheated once with my bike sitting in stopped Charleston 90deg traffic for about 20-30 min.

RC's are GREAT bikes and you don't see these like you see the common types of bikes. Everybody and their mother has an RR and a gsx-r... it's good to be different and I'm more of a 'race' oriented guy so the rc-51 was a perfect bike for me to purchase. The repsol's are nice bikes too if you want to be unique but yet have a 1000rr. I know I sound like a ricer, but another thing that sold me on the RC51 is the way it sounds.... it's pure sex to hear it run. And if you do decide on the RC51, make sure you get a Corbin seat bc the stock ones s-u-c-k.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PrecisionH23a &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">No it will not. I own an RC51 and I absolutely LOVE it. It will get warmer than a RR in stopped traffic but your thighs will not 'roast'. And as for the 'overheating' deal, I have not overheated once with my bike sitting in stopped Charleston 90deg traffic for about 20-30 min.

And if you do decide on the RC51, make sure you get a Corbin seat bc the stock ones s-u-c-k.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I rode a friend's RC, and it was roasting my thighs. Same with my SuperHawk. All that heat radiating off those two big, throbbing cylinders = leg warmers on cold nights.

+1 on the stock seat. It is

 

It gets warm... but I have not had my thighs 'roasted' yet. I figure in the winter time this will be a benifit, hehe.

 

You guys are making me hungry thinking about the delicious roasted turkey thigh i will be munching on for Thanksgiving.

 

lol

Here's my turkey roaster

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PrecisionH23a &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">lol

Here's my turkey roaster

</TD></TR></TABLE>

You mean a Duck roaster