Helicoil kit for transmission case bolts? 12 x 1.25 mm...what size drill bit?

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Old Nov 9, 2005 | 11:44 AM
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Default Helicoil kit for transmission case bolts? 12 x 1.25 mm...what size drill bit?

The bolt is a 12x 1.25

I can't find a helicoil kit for it in stock anywhere, I can order one...but do you guys know how large of a hole needs to be drilled for these kits?

I'm trying to figure out if these stripped bolt holes are repairable with a helicoil.

The rear two are the ones that need to be repaired. The one closest to the engine is fine.

You can see how they are oblonged out a little. Looks like someone drilled the bolts out before.

Anybody know what size drill bit you predrill with for a 12 x 1.25 helicoil? I'm wondering if it's just big enough that these holes can be repaired!

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Old Nov 9, 2005 | 01:12 PM
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Default Re: Helicoil kit for transmission case bolts? 12 x 1.25 mm...what size drill bit? (Jonathan_ED3)

google M12x1.25 HeliCoil and the link has the drill sizes for each kit...
http://www.emhart.com/products...tm#MF

Although expensive,time-serts are alot more durable...
http://www.timesert.com

If you can't find the proper size in metric,
You could always use a standard size...


Modified by 88DXCRX at 5:11 PM 11/9/2005
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Old Nov 9, 2005 | 01:40 PM
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Default Re: Helicoil kit for transmission case bolts? 12 x 1.25 mm...what size drill bit? (Jonathan_ED3)

The drill size for a M12x1.25 HeliCoil is a 31/64".

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 88DXCRX &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">google drill tap sizes.. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Tap drill sizes? Do you know that is completely different then a HeliCoil drill size?
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Old Nov 9, 2005 | 02:08 PM
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opps..wasn't thinking clearly..sorry..
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Old Nov 9, 2005 | 02:17 PM
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Default Re: Helicoil kit for transmission case bolts? 12 x 1.25 mm...what size drill bit? (88DXCRX)

if you want to save money and time, try to get a tap and die set, the one that looks like a screw, and screw it in.
Tap and dies are always good for stripped lug nuts. the hexagon ones that is.
they sell screw drill bits with that twist in.
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Old Nov 9, 2005 | 02:33 PM
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Default Re: Helicoil kit for transmission case bolts? 12 x 1.25 mm...what size drill bit? (Jonathan_ED3)

You would have an easier time switching to SAE threads. 1/2" fine or coarse would work well. Bolts will be easy to come by too.

Actually, if you really want to do it up right. Tap it for SAE and install 3 studs.
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Old Nov 10, 2005 | 07:26 AM
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Default Re: Helicoil kit for transmission case bolts? 12 x 1.25 mm...what size drill bit? (MugenHonda)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by MugenHonda &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">if you want to save money and time, try to get a tap and die set, the one that looks like a screw, and screw it in.
Tap and dies are always good for stripped lug nuts. the hexagon ones that is.
they sell screw drill bits with that twist in.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I would do that...except the bolt hole is stripped out completely. There's no threads left at all. It's been slightly overbored.

Thanks for the help guys.
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Old Nov 10, 2005 | 03:32 PM
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Default Re: Helicoil kit for transmission case bolts? 12 x 1.25 mm...what size drill bit? (Jonathan_ED3)

Yeah, those holes look a little too fubared to use helicoils. FWIW, helicoil taps are known as STI taps for Screw Thread Insert. We use an insert at work called a keysert, its like the timesert except the wall is thicker. Would probably work. Does not require an STI tap, just a larger standard or metric size.
http://mdmetric.com/pdf/keysert.pdf
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Old Nov 10, 2005 | 07:15 PM
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Chris,

It looks like the 12 x 1.25 kit should work for me.

Do you know any retail stores that sell these things?
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Old Nov 10, 2005 | 07:59 PM
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Try McMaster-Carr. http://www.mcmaster.com/

Search for helicoil.

Looks like 12x1.25 are $3.00 per pack of 10.
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Old Nov 10, 2005 | 08:21 PM
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if I went with helicoil kit, I'll need to double up on them.

The only problem with that is that I don't know what the external thread size is for a 12 x 1.25 kit. The hole is too large right now to accept a standard 12 x 1.25.

Maybe a 14 x 1.25?
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Old Nov 11, 2005 | 12:18 AM
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Default Re: (Jonathan_ED3)

Tap it for larger bolts I dunno, i just don't trust coil.
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Old Nov 11, 2005 | 05:39 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tyro &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Try McMaster-Carr. http://www.mcmaster.com/

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search for threaded inserts
They do small orders with a credit card

Don't try to double up on helicoils, bad idea.

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Old Nov 11, 2005 | 10:51 AM
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Default Re: (NCchris)

So the hole is larger then 31/64"?

I have used helicoils on engine mounts and they worked fine.
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Old Nov 13, 2005 | 06:28 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Surewin &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">So the hole is larger then 31/64"?

I have used helicoils on engine mounts and they worked fine.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I tried with a 1/2"...that's larger than a 31/64, so yes.
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