Some people say yes some people say no.. will the whole 4th gen manual swap fit in the 5th gen ludes to do auto to manual on?.... I need help!

 

no because i know the shifter is different ^^

 

NO FOR SURE!

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by khalal538 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">NO FOR SURE! </TD></TR></TABLE>

You know for sure because you've tried? or you know for sure just because they're different parts? I dont know man.. A lot of people has been telling me it will work.. plus even if the parts aren't the same part #.. I dont think the different "body style" matters on the 4th gen and 5th gen considering the 5spd swap parts from 4th gen.. now if we're talking about other body parts like the obvious frame, body, suspension parts like lower control arm or something.. then yes those are different.. but I thought since some 4th gens come with the SI vtec that has h22.. i would think they would use the same shift linkage and what not.. plus if you look under the hood of 4th gen.. correct me if I'm wrong.. it looks just like my damn 5th gen engine bay.. maybe that has nothing to do with the 5spd swap parts.. i donno.. but i'm looking for you to prove that it will not work.. No offense, i'm not saying you're wrong and i'm not saying i'm right.. just need explanation

 

i am 110% sure you cannot use 4th gen shift linkage (shift cable)...if you don't believe me, goodluck trying, you'll find out the hard way.

 

hmm okay.. well what parts are interchangable then? I know tranny, and flywheel would.. what else?

 

You know what really pisses me off is when people that don't know jack about something try to give advise. Now hears the deal with the swap. You can use every thing from the 4th gen **** the shifter from an accord will even fit only difference between the two gens are the bolt holes. Dont worry though those different holes are already there in the 5th just need to get some bolts for it you'll see what i mean when you rip into it. The good thing about the 4th gen shifter is that you can get the forbidden short shifter for it as there is no application for the 5th gen. The only thing you need to get from a 5th gen is the trans mount. In my car I have a 5th gen (95-97) accord pedal assembly and I used to have a 4th gen shifter but I did a K20 into an EK and since the shifter plate on the 4th gen shifter sits lower I picked up a 5th gen shifter and used the 4th gen shifter in the EK. BTW I signed up for this just to help you. When I needed help nobody knew the answers just hate morons giving advise. Hell it probably took them 5hrs to put in a cold air intake.

 

I'm also running an accord transmission all those parts fit including clutch, flywheel, clutch master and slave. I used the accord trans because of my turbo I'm putting down about 356hp so its better for me since i can use all of the gearing if you stay N/A you will want to get the h22 or h23 transmissions the h23 is longer but not by much. If you go turbo and want longer gears to spool it the best thing would be to stay away from the F23 trans which I have while all the startes and clutch slave are interchangeable it's not that way with the F23 its specific you need the parts only from that transmission good luck with the swap the car will be 100x more enjoyable to drive. As for the guys that told him he couldn't use that stuff, unless you did it yourself STFU. Incase you wonder about my abilities in the past year I have done 15 motors swaps including The k series and an H22 into an teg right now I'm swapping and h22 into and auto accord and a K20a2 Into a DX EK

 

THANK YOU!!!!! finally someone gives me a complete information.. Thanks alot T3T4H22! LOL badass guy i tell you.. thanks! man.. i've been looking for a damn explanation all this time and all i've been getting is that IT WONT WORK TRUST ME and all this bullshit.. thanks for telling me the good news that it will work with COMPLETE Explanation.. thanks for joining and helping me out! hahaha stick around so I can ask for some more help okay?

 

i have done the swap, on the 5th gen, it wont fit dude. the screw to bolt to the chassy for the assembly is in different spot and the linkage is a little shorter. save your self the trouble and buy the 5th gen shifter assembly. maybe t2t4h22 is thinking of swaping it on a accord?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by T3T4H22 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">As for the guys that told him he couldn't use that stuff, unless you did it yourself STFU. . Incase you wonder about my abilities in the past year I have done 15 motors swaps including The k series and an H22 into an teg right now I'm swapping and h22 into and auto accord and a K20a2 Into a DX EK</TD></TR></TABLE>

"15 motors swaps"....good for you
Pictures speak for themselves...and yes, I did my own manual swap.

4th gen shifter assembly


5th gen shifter assembly

 

Okay here are the 4th gen parts I have.. All pedals, all hydrolic lines, clutch master, slave cylinder, shift plate, shift cables, shift cable brackets with clips,and shifter. soo T3T4H22 will all those 4th gen parts fit for 5th gen auto to manual swap?

I see the pictures khalal538.. but pictures doesnt mean it won't fit at all.. like T3T4h22 said there were bolt holes in there to do it.. I donno.. right now i need T3T4H22's opinion.. not that i dont need your opinion khalal538.. I value both..

 

vietdragontekx Maybe you had an accord assembly I know for a fact that its too short for a prelude did you pull it yourself or buy it off someone.

khalal538 A diagram is not very effective a determining the length of the cables now if you had a picture of the two together showing that one was significantly shorter than the other I would throw up a white flag and completely agree with and have too chalk my experience up to having magic cables.

bigtimlikewhoa As far as the hydro lines go I have know idea I didnt have them I got them made out of ss Braided hose, sorry. but everything else will fit. With that said this is not an easy job unless you have a lot of experience and the right tools. This will take some fabrication but nothing too bad. My sugestion would be to run the cables through the car and connect them to the trans first then before you bolt down the shifter try to shift into every gear to make sure its not binding and if it is then make adjustment. Give yourself at least a week **** happens thats part of the fun of our hobby, this aint legos or models you're using stuff that wasn't designed to go into that car so be patient don't rush. If you find yourself getting frustrated or tired just stop, relax, sit back and look at it or take a break because if you try to force it, it might break. Have you decided on what you are going to do about the immobilizer/ECU?

 

He can use the stock Auto Ecu, however modification will be required. A very simple one which involves relocating a chip.

 

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I threw out the 4th gen shift cables because it didn't bolt up with my 5th gen shifter or else i'd have a picture of them side by side.

 

ahhh dang it.. fabricating.. hehe its okay yeah i doubt it'll be that much.. and yes the hydro line, i know it might not fit.. but im sure i can get an h22 tranny or whatever tranny i'll get with the hydro line on it.. or just buy one somewhere.. And I was wondering, to save money.. that i'll just use my auto gauge cluster and my auto ecu and rewire or relocate a chip to do that.. now khalal538.. i need you help on that one lol.. how do i do that? soo if i do this.. I can go put shifter in reverse and the green R would turn on? lol hahaha thats badass.. but whats gonna happen if I decide to go hondata? alright thanks for the help guys! both are really helpful!

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by bigtimlikewhoa &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">khalal538.. i need you help on that one lol.. how do i do that? soo if i do this.. I can go put shifter in reverse and the green R would turn on? lol hahaha thats badass.. but whats gonna happen if I decide to go hondata? alright thanks for the help guys! both are really helpful!</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yes, when you go into reverse, your green "R" will light up (if you wire it correctly).
To wire up the reverse lights, connect the WHT wire (from the A/T GPS) to the YEL wire (from the tranny) and the RED/WHT wire (from the A/T GPS) to the GRN/BLK wire (from the tranny).

WHT = YEL
RED/WHT = GRN/BLK

For the ecu modification, this is a very simple conversion. Move the SMD 0 ohm resistor from location RP13 on the bottom of the PCB to location RP14 on the top of the PCB. The 0 ohm SMD resistor is identified by code 000 etched on it.

it should look like this when completed
RP14 is the new location of the chip

 

I threw out the 4th gen shift cables because it didn't bolt up with my 5th gen shifter or else i'd have a picture of them side by side.


He said he has the complete assembly

 

Wait now i'm just thinking about it.. on 4th gen shifter assembly going in the 5th gen console you said there's bolt holes in there already for the 4th gen shifter right? Soo all I need are bolts to bolt it down? will it look perfect and legit like a normal manual car would have with the shift boot on after its done? And could you give me detailed "fabrication" like what would I have to do? are you talking about just checking constantly if the whole shift assembly with the linkage would shift right on the tranny before actually bolting it down like you said? or would I have to fabricate like make something to fit? well thanks a lot

 

 

Its more like adusting it to fit right. The shift boot will fit like stock. The only thing is that the 4th gen shift is a little taller but not much.