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Old Oct 23, 2005 | 04:28 PM
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So I have a weird problem. My radio only works when my dome light is set in the middle(note: there are 3 settings), <U>and</U> when the passenger door is closed.
Otherwise, it shuts off and turns on again only when those ^^ conditions are present. Also, the dome light does not work at all.

Series of events that lead to this: car had system, we uninstalled, re-wired stock speakers to radio (?-I myself am not sure since I didn't do it, my friend did.), radio stopped working/dome light/cig. lighter, replaced "interior light" fuse(tonight), then... the weird problem happened!

Any ideas? Im confused. And Id really like to be able to listen to my radio, allow my passenger to get out, AND have my dome light on all at the same time!

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Old Oct 23, 2005 | 07:45 PM
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That's a new on on me, and I have been doing this a long time, it's deff. a wiring issue, and probably a grounding problem, as the most common symptom of a grounding problem, is one seemingly unrelated thing having an affect on another, depending on car, they don't share any circuits, except maybe the constant power, and ground of coarse.

I would pull the HU and check the wiring, here is a pin out and color code http://www.installdr.com/Harnesses/HA-Wiring.pdf the only one not there is the red/black, "Dash Light Dimmer Wire", the constant power, [back up power] fuse is in the engine bay fuse box, [probably a 7.5A]. 94
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Old Oct 23, 2005 | 08:29 PM
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cool thanks we're gonna check out the wiring w/ the radio... i hope i figure this out.
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Old Oct 24, 2005 | 01:16 PM
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Thanks for the link it help with my issue!
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Old Oct 24, 2005 | 06:28 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by VTECnLUDETTE &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">My radio only works when my dome light is set in the middle(note: there are 3 settings), <U>and</U> when the passenger door is closed.
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When a door is open, it'll show negative through it's circuit. But in the case of a dome light set to 'door', it'll throw positive to the light when the door is ajar.

Two possibilities, whenever your door is opened (grounded pin switch), it's also shorting either your ACC or constant +12V wire leading to your radio.

Or.. there's a short from your domelight throwing +12V to your GND wire on the radio so it shorts out whenever the light is supposed to come on.

Should be pretty simple to fix.
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Old Oct 24, 2005 | 07:31 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ScareyH22A &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

When a door is open, it'll show negative through it's circuit. But in the case of a dome light set to 'door', it'll throw positive to the light when the door is ajar.
</TD></TR></TABLE> Not exactly, the dome light always has 12V+ on it, [white/red wire] fused in the in-car or engine bay fuse box, [depending on year or model] it is a constant, [hot all the time] circuit, the switch at the dome light connects the neg. side of the bulb to nothing, [off] to the door pins, [on when a door is open] or ground, [on] so when set to 'door', and door is "ajar" the door pin will supply a ground to the light that already has 12V+. 94
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Old Oct 24, 2005 | 08:01 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by fcm &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> Not exactly, the dome light always has 12V+ on it, [white/red wire] fused in the in-car or engine bay fuse box, [depending on year or model] it is a constant, [hot all the time] circuit, the switch at the dome light connects the neg. side of the bulb to nothing, [off] to the door pins, [on when a door is open] or ground, [on] so when set to 'door', and door is "ajar" the door pin will supply a ground to the light that already has 12V+. 94 </TD></TR></TABLE>

I think what he meant to say is the ground side is + when there is no load. Apply a stereo to that wire and your light will flash as the current passes through the bulb.
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Old Oct 24, 2005 | 08:35 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nsxxtreme &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

I think what he meant to say is the ground side is + when there is no load. Apply a stereo to that wire and your light will flash as the current passes through the bulb.</TD></TR></TABLE>OIC you mean if HU acc. was connected to the door pin wire, but then wouldn't the dome light come on when the door is opened, as now the light has a ground?
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Old Oct 24, 2005 | 09:05 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by fcm &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">OIC you mean if HU acc. was connected to the door pin wire, but then wouldn't the dome light come on when the door is opened, as now the light has a ground?</TD></TR></TABLE>Yes... and it could explain why the stereo shuts off when the door gets opened.

Definetly something wrong with the wiring.
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Old Oct 24, 2005 | 09:27 PM
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The guy who wired your radio is a genius. If someone asked me to wire a radio in that manner, I'd have a hard time trying to figure it out.
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Old Oct 25, 2005 | 07:58 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nsxxtreme &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yes... and it could explain why the stereo shuts off when the door gets opened. </TD></TR></TABLE> And that is exactly what would happen if he was wired into the pin-switch wire, except for one thing, the dome light does not come on when the door is opened, so the dome light or the dome light fuse is blown and that means no power on the pin switch lead when the door is closed, or maybe the pin switch ground is poor, just enough to drop voltage below what the HU needs but not enough to turn on the light, no I don't think that's it.

Also how would he have done that, [wire into the pin switch wire] you would really have to go out of your way to do that.

Lets hope he re-posts after he has pulled the HU and checked the wiring. 94
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Old Oct 27, 2005 | 06:47 AM
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Hey guys Im just now reading all of this- we just got our power back on this morning, we lost it on Monday at 6 am due to hurricane wilma.


anyway it was not me who wired anything... i wouldnt know how to to save my life. it was a friend of mine... so ill relay all these posts to him or someone else who can help me. I shoulda known better than to let him do it, he owns a VW jk jk

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