Alright -
I am trying to fix my current cluster because everything else but the tach works on it thus, i figure it could just be that the tach is disconnected - I just got my motor swapped into the car and i went with an h23 instead of the normal vtec if that matters -
there are some white cables as seen in the picture which are not hooked up - does this matter??
Does anyone know how i could get my tach to work if all the cables are hooked up properly??
Thanks a lot - here are pics
this blue connecter in the lower right - does it matter that its not hooked up??


Do these white connectors need to be connected?



View of back -


Also - OFF TOPIC -
Is this the stock GSR exhaust?? the pipe looks bigger than normal stocks??


Thanks




Modified by nObOdy65 at 6:34 PM 10/4/2005

 

The white wires look like they belong to the reverse indiglo gauges....and yes they should be hooked up if you want your gauges to light up. Hopefully you still have the harness to the guages....

It also looks like you're missing a plug to the gauges too.



if you look at the blue plug on the far right hand side of the pic and go up a lil and left....you'll see an empty slot where the plug should go. I believe if you have the plug, and you plug it in, your tach should work After all....it should be with your wiring harness ( unless someone removed it )

 

alright - i guess im confused - so i pulled the entire thing out and wanted ya to have a look at it
this is the cluster from the back




these three cables are all that i have optionable in my car -
there are no other wires

this is my gaping hole in the dash


alright should those three be all that i need or is there a cable missing or??
thanks so much for the help!!

 

You're missing a plug in that blurred picture. If you look at the back of the cluster there are 4 spots for plugs. 2 about the same size (looks like the one's you're holding) a slightly smaller one (missing) and that small yellow one. Look back in that gaping hole of yours to see if you can find that 4th one. It plugs straight into the back of the tach, so that could be the problem.



And the first pic in your first post is of the connector that goes into the back of the dimmer switch. The harness looks a little molested though. That could be where the 'indigo' gauges had tapped in. And that is the GSR pipe for earlier years (94-97).

 

Aha ! your right, im missing a plug for the tach - but also the lights wont light up - and ive tried hooking in the blue plug to the far bottom right to no avail -
If i do not have that plug?? what do you recommend - can i buy it or anything??
Thanks a lot for the other info as well

 

Well the plug you're missing should be there some where. It may have fallen back behind the lower dash somewhere. Pop that open and take look see.

As for your lights not working, the plug that you showed in the first pic of your first post needs to be plugged back into your dimmer switch. That's the round one next to the right side of the steering column. Pop that out with a small flat screw driver and plug that thing back in. Make sure the wires aren't cut, cuz it kinda looks like they are in the picture. This is just for the factory lights. You'll need to hook up all those white wires to get the gauges to glow, but if you ask me, you should do yourself a favor and take those out. If you do, remember to work around the gauge needles b/c they cannot be removed.

 

ou should do yourself a favor and take those out. If you do, remember to work around the gauge needles b/c they cannot be removed.
- take what out - the old ones and use some new ones??
what exactly are those called so i can search for them - just gauges??
thanks a lot!

 

The aftermarket "indigo gauges" is what you should take out. They look pretty bad (my opinion of course) and are way too bright. You don't need new ones, the factory ones are still there underneath. "Indigo Gauges" is what the generic name for them are. I couldn't tell you who makes them, though I'm willing to bet APC puts one out.

 

ive looked all over and i cannot find the 4th connector - is there anywhere you specifically recommend looking ?? Ive taken out the plastic panel underneath the steering column - looked all over! ill see if i can take out those gauges - cause right now they arent working anyways Thanks

 

have you done an interior swap from tan to black? If so, I'd recommend removing the dash.....lay out the wiring harness and put the plugs in and make sure they all work. Get some tape and label them all before removing the plugs. Then put everything back together! Even if you didn't do the swap, that's what I would recommend. I remember when I did the swap....there was a plug that looked exactly like the dimmer switch plug....I confused it with it and wondered why my gauge lights didn't work Until....I took everything apart again and did the labeling thing I just suggested

 

Manual transmission Integras only has three plugs, the tiny one behind the gas gauge and then the two big ones. There's a fourth slot for an automatic transmission, but GSRs don't have automatics. That is not your problem.


Edit: Apparently everyone else in this thread has never taken apart their gauge clusters and therefore don't know what the hell they're talking about.


First, I'd check and make sure no lines are frayed. Also, ask the person who did your swap. They're a lot of wiring involved, and sometimes people just don't do it right. Take it back to the dude who did it and make him check wiring/relays.

I'm pretty sure something just wasn't wired right during the H23 swap.


Btw, don't listen to any post above me, they're the HT losers who have mr Jiffy Lube do their oil changes.

 

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They did in Japan Well....it COULD be as simple as something not right with the gauge itself or the green film. Perhaps a wire somewhere has had its connection severed? Or pinched? But if it worked before....then I dunno. You say you only had those two blue plugs and the SRS plug. Well.....not to doubt you because I'm sure your car works just fine, but one of the JDM ITR Gauge bezzles I received off of ebay included part of the wiring harness that is found behind the dash......and....I had all three of those blue plugs including one for SRS. And we KNOW ITRs were never made in automatics......

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by apok &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Edit: Apparently everyone else in this thread has never taken apart their gauge clusters and therefore don't know what the hell they're talking about.


First, I'd check and make sure no lines are frayed. Also, ask the person who did your swap. They're a lot of wiring involved, and sometimes people just don't do it right. Take it back to the dude who did it and make him check wiring/relays.

I'm pretty sure something just wasn't wired right during the H23 swap.


Btw, don't listen to any post above me, they're the HT losers who have mr Jiffy Lube do their oil changes.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Ok Mr ******* who apparently had someone pee in their cornflakes this morning. He never mentioned he had an H23 swap. If you knew he did...then whoopdie ******* doo for you. That information might have been useful to those others who had responded. Oh and BTW ********....I do my own oil changes and I have taken apart several gauge clusters before in several cars and have gotten them ALL to work. Sorry if his lack of info prevented me from giving him the right answer. But I'm sure you know everything.

 

He mentioned it in his post. Read plz.

Also, my job is to install Honda motors in cars that they aren't supposed to be in. I sorta have to know the ins and outs of every car I work on. Unfortunately, this dude lives across the country from me and I can't have a look at his wiring otherwise I'd have it fixed for him.

You may be right, the film could be bad, or a pin could be missing from the clip. I wasn't trying to be offensive, but from reading the posts, no one seemed to have a clue what the fourth plug was for and were making him waste his time by searching for something that never came on his car model.

Maybe I came out a little too harsh, but I hadn't had dinner and I was cranky. &gt;_&lt;

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by apok &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">He mentioned it in his post. Read plz.

Also, my job is to install Honda motors in cars that they aren't supposed to be in. I sorta have to know the ins and outs of every car I work on. Unfortunately, this dude lives across the country from me and I can't have a look at his wiring otherwise I'd have it fixed for him.

You may be right, the film could be bad, or a pin could be missing from the clip. I wasn't trying to be offensive, but from reading the posts, no one seemed to have a clue what the fourth plug was for and were making him waste his time by searching for something that never came on his car model.

Maybe I came out a little too harsh, but I hadn't had dinner and I was cranky. &gt;_&lt;</TD></TR></TABLE>

My bad for not reading it. The way it appeared on my browser...the info was clear off to the right......way off. Meaning, I'd have to scroll over to see it Which I did not do. Anyway......my bad for poppin off too. We were only trying to help and every Integra I've ever worked on manual or automatic had three of those blue plugs....so I was kinda wondering where the third one went. But hey...maybe I need to get my hands on more if there are those that only have two.

And fourth plug?? You mean those three that go to the indiglo or reverse indiglo guages? I've installed those many a times..and we both know that doesn't solve his problem Or....were you referring to the yellow one ( SRS light indicator ) ?? Better yet, which picture are you referring to?

 

I guess im confused go figure.. There is some great information here but maybe im not digesting it correctly. I have fixed the light problem, and now my cluster glows perfectly, if a little dim. But as i mentioned above, and apparently integra's only came with 3 plugs - two larger blue ones, and 1 smaller one. but if thats the case... why does my cluster need 3 big ones and one small one?? when you do an engine swap do you change out the cluster wires?? in that case shouldnt i get a Prelude cluster to fix this problem?? thanks a lot guys

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nObOdy65 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> but if thats the case... why does my cluster need 3 big ones and one small one?? when you do an engine swap do you change out the cluster wires?? in that case shouldnt i get a Prelude cluster to fix this problem?? thanks a lot guys </TD></TR></TABLE>

3 big ones and a small one? Are you referring to the 3 blue plugs and then the smaller yellow ( SRS indicator ) plug?

 

Yes sir i am.

 

Also for future surfers - The reason my lights wouldnt work is because he had aftermarket gauges on them and those werent plugged in causing the aftermarket gauges not to glow, yet the stock ones were on you just couldnt see them through the gauges, so i took off the aftermarket ones, cleaned off all of the glue (carb cleaner works well) and viola! ive got lights! Still have no idea about the tach though

 

Come on, someone has to know something that which will help!!

 

seriously.....have you pulled out the dash and looked at every plug? I mean...I know that's a pain in the ***, but it helps to get the wiring harness laid out and labeled as to what goes where so you know or damned sure that you're not missing anything.

 

Is it possible when the swap was done that the tach signal from the dizzy was not wired correctly? Just an idea for someone who might no more

 

It is possible...but most unlikely unless the wire harness was tampered with.

 

well do this....behind your harness the one on the right sid eof the cluster in the back, there should be a blue wire going into it, that is your tach wire going under your dash into the engine bay. get a test light to ground and probe the wire, now if the light flickers according to your rev of the car when the car is on itll blink fast to slow then your getting a tach signal, if it doesnt light up then your getting no signal what so ever. if that is the case run a wire from that blue wire in the back of your cluster and find a tach wire off of your distirbutor under the hood and connect. now see if your tach works. if it doesnt still....you either one didnt find the right wire, or two, your tach is bad. its very rare but **** does happen.