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Old Sep 23, 2005 | 08:53 PM
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After stripping 5 head stud holes in my block i decided my best option would be to get TimeSerts new D16 kit. They just created this kit specifically for head studs holes in d-series engines. The size is M10x1.25. It comes with 10 inserts. It cost me $380 and got it from TimeSert since they are the only ones that have it. Its too new for any of their distributors to have them in stock.

This kit is FAR superior than Helicoils. These inserts will actually be stronger than the stock threads. It was real easy to use and they work great. This is what actual machine shops use. For more info goto http://www.timesert.com This complete kit is also for sale here..best offer..https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1376859
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Here are some shots of the kit.







1) Start by placing the drill fixture on the block and then place the drill centering tool into the hole that needs to be repaired. Once it is centered, hold down on it and tighten the drill fixture bolts. Now everything from here on out will go striaght square in the hole.


2) Place the drill bushing into the hole. Then place duct tape around the area so no shavings get into the cylinders.


3) Drill out the hole with the custom 2 step drill bit. It has a stop collar on it so just go all the way down until it hits the bushing. The kit also comes with another collar to place on the bit for that one shallow hole on d series blocks.


4) Vacuum all the shavings out real good and then blow it out. (yes, thats a ghost)


5) Next grab the tap and spray some wd-40 on it.


6) Start threading it in the hole. Notice there are two lines on the tap. You will want to stop threading once the top line meets the top of the drill bushing. The bottom line is for the shallow hole. Once you're finished with that, you will want to spray a bunch of brake cleaner in the hole and then vacuum all the shavings out real good.


7) Grab the insert and oil the inside threads of it real good.


8) Grab the insert driver and thread the insert on it a little bit.


9) Apply some loctite to the outside threads of the insert. You will just want a little bit on the bottom half of the insert because once you drive it in, it will all work itself out through the top.


10) You will want to take the drill fixture off for this next step. I forgot to do that for the picture. You will then want to thread the insert into hole using the driver. Once you get it almost all the way in, you will feel it start to get harder to thread in there. Thats because the driver is locking the insert into the block. Thread it all the way down until the top line on the driver is flush with the block surface. Bottom line if you are repairing the shallow hole.


Thats it! You're finished. Happy boosting
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Old Sep 23, 2005 | 09:05 PM
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Nice write up... Now you wont be burning coolant...

Ill be waiting for dyno number of the SOHC-T now that u got it running str8...
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Old Sep 24, 2005 | 07:14 AM
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gonna finish putting the head back on today..
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Old Sep 24, 2005 | 07:54 AM
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good stuff
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Old Sep 24, 2005 | 08:53 AM
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Does this thread them to the stock size or do you have to buy special head studs to fit?
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Old Sep 24, 2005 | 08:57 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nota-eg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Does this thread them to the stock size or do you have to buy special head studs to fit?</TD></TR></TABLE>

stock size...M10x1.25
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Old Sep 24, 2005 | 08:58 AM
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just got done torquing the head down to 65 foot lbs. everything went smooth.. now that i think about it i should of went ahead and put timeserts in every hole. i only put them in 5. the kit comes with 10 and you can also order more.
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Old Sep 24, 2005 | 09:04 AM
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Does this drill out the old threads, and then replace them with a metal cylinder that has the threads in it?
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Old Sep 24, 2005 | 10:02 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nota-eg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Does this drill out the old threads, and then replace them with a metal cylinder that has the threads in it?</TD></TR></TABLE>

basically, yes. goto timesert.com for more info..
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Old Sep 24, 2005 | 10:15 AM
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good writeup Im thinking I might need this for my block. I just wish the locals had this install kit so only had to buy the inserts and save a few hundred $...
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Old Sep 24, 2005 | 11:52 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by pdiggitydogg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">good writeup Im thinking I might need this for my block. I just wish the locals had this install kit so only had to buy the inserts and save a few hundred $...</TD></TR></TABLE>

mine is for sale....best offer
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Old Sep 24, 2005 | 12:30 PM
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or u can rent it out.... LOL
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Old Sep 24, 2005 | 12:42 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PRcivicHB &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">or u can rent it out.... LOL</TD></TR></TABLE>

who rents out a timesert kit?
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Old Sep 24, 2005 | 02:29 PM
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I need the setup for B series
Also, I think when I get it, I'll offer it as a service
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Old Sep 24, 2005 | 02:46 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by pdiggitydogg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I need the setup for B series
Also, I think when I get it, I'll offer it as a service</TD></TR></TABLE>

yea i would to but im in missouri and there are no hondas here.
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Old Sep 24, 2005 | 03:09 PM
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or for the time adn effort, for some people it would just be benifical to buy another d16 shortblock
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Old Sep 24, 2005 | 03:16 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SkRiBLaH &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">or for the time adn effort, for some people it would just be benifical to buy another d16 shortblock</TD></TR></TABLE>

Not to mention the price of the kit. Then again, if you have a sleeved block it would be worth it.
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Old Sep 24, 2005 | 07:45 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SkRiBLaH &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">or for the time adn effort, for some people it would just be benifical to buy another d16 shortblock</TD></TR></TABLE>

like i said this was my best option. i live in missouri, there are no z6 blocks lying around. thats mean i would have to have one shipped probably from california, there's at least $300. then i would have to buy a engine hoist and stand, thats $250. then all the labor involved in swaping blocks. OR buy this kit and save me alot of time and money and then try to sell it. i sure wish i could of found someone selling one these kits used...
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Old Sep 24, 2005 | 07:47 PM
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oh btw, just got home from driving my car all night. everything is 100% on it. not one single problem on the entire car now. no more leaking crank seal and no more coolant overflow. im just so happy now because all ive been doing for the past 3 months is working on this thing.
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Old Sep 24, 2005 | 11:06 PM
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nice write-up and pix
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Old Sep 25, 2005 | 03:14 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mike93eh &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

like i said this was my best option. i live in missouri, there are no z6 blocks lying around. thats mean i would have to have one shipped probably from california, there's at least $300. then i would have to buy a engine hoist and stand, thats $250. then all the labor involved in swaping blocks. OR buy this kit and save me alot of time and money and then try to sell it. i sure wish i could of found someone selling one these kits used...</TD></TR></TABLE>

big ups to middle of nowhere (like me)
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Old Sep 25, 2005 | 06:48 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SkRiBLaH &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> big ups to middle of nowhere (like me)</TD></TR></TABLE>

yup gotta do things alot differently when youre in the middle of nowhere..
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Old Sep 25, 2005 | 07:02 AM
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for the write up
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Old Sep 25, 2005 | 08:09 AM
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*******...AWESOME!!
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Old Sep 25, 2005 | 10:32 AM
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