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Old Aug 18, 2005 | 11:48 AM
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- K24A4 (accord block)
- CP K24 87.5mm 12.2cr (shelf application, but .5mm OS with deeper intake valve relief)
- Pauter K24 shelf application rods
- K20A2 R&D CNC street port, stock valves
- Eibach EVS w/ Ti retainers
- IPS-K2 camshafts (first test in K24 application)
- custom intake manifold with stock TB
- custom small header 1 5/8, 1 3/4 (to start with)
- ram air intake (headlight)
- 12.7-12.9 a/f
- VP C12 gas


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Old Aug 18, 2005 | 11:53 AM
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wow ...nice numbers on stock bore/stroke ..although that is a 2.4


is this the start of the testing for all those wonderful parts i saw pics of
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Old Aug 18, 2005 | 12:19 PM
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Not really .. this is just a teaser of what's to come with big stroke. These were independent results provided by some internet shy people.

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Old Aug 18, 2005 | 12:46 PM
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that motor is making some serious power

yet another job well done Ron.

btw what chassis is this motor in or going to be in?
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Old Aug 18, 2005 | 01:55 PM
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Damn impressive numbers. These K motors are really starting to make the B motors out dated.
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Old Aug 19, 2005 | 08:02 AM
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Very nice numbers.... considering you are using stock intake manifold and TB and B series motors make this kind of power with ITBS.... fully built.... and with less TQ....


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Old Aug 19, 2005 | 09:21 AM
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ya thats awesome numbers i cant wait. also OT i love the many k seires threads goign on. not bad now we need to see some ivtec-e motors getting done in the short future.
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Old Aug 19, 2005 | 10:30 AM
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C12 gas?

Ehh, 108octane for 12.2??
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Old Aug 19, 2005 | 08:58 PM
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Wow! That torque curve is nuts
How big can you go on a K24 sleeved, bored, and stroked? 2.7? 2.8? 3.0 ?
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Old Aug 19, 2005 | 09:29 PM
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Damn talk about neck snapping torque.
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Old Aug 19, 2005 | 09:37 PM
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hmmm let's see, I think someone wants to run a 91mm x 110mm or so...

that would be a 2861cc motor.

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Old Aug 19, 2005 | 09:41 PM
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Pretty overkill on the C12, I suggested unleaded VP MS109 but that's all they had I believe.

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Old Aug 19, 2005 | 10:23 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by edo &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">that would be a 2861cc motor.

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I want one !
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Old Aug 19, 2005 | 10:33 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by b19coupe &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

I want one !</TD></TR></TABLE>imagine the Tq on that ****...
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Old Aug 20, 2005 | 05:04 AM
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why VP C12 gas?
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Old Aug 20, 2005 | 06:29 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BERT-O &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">why VP C12 gas?
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by edo &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Pretty overkill on the C12, I suggested unleaded VP MS109 but that's all they had I believe.

-Ron</TD></TR></TABLE>
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Old Aug 20, 2005 | 09:33 AM
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simple build = fully built/ported head/race gas?
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Old Aug 20, 2005 | 10:38 AM
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simple as in drop in rods/pistons in a stock block K24... the ported head is something they already had on a 2.0L... no resleeving makes for a quick build.. the crank is stock (no prep), the rods are heavy, the pistons are shelf items and on and on... for what it is... it's very simple compared to our 2240cc dev motor which is comprised of an ultralight rotating assembly: knife edged/race prepped stroker crank, titanium rods, featherlight 90mm piston/wristpin combo with all the nice power making features... That's the primary difference in power disparity between the two setups. Once you open up the bore it should make a lot more power. So yeah, this particular build is pretty simple to implement and replicate since shelf parts were used.

the same setup is also being tested with a stock head and 11.5cr on pump.

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Old Aug 20, 2005 | 11:59 AM
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understood
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Old Aug 20, 2005 | 09:00 PM
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nice powerband
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Old Aug 21, 2005 | 01:23 AM
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Nice numbers. Would this thing still be able to lay down similar with 93 octance pump gas? Good stuff.
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Old Aug 21, 2005 | 12:32 PM
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that tq is what most mild built b-series make hp wise
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Old Aug 21, 2005 | 04:31 PM
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Default First time out 1/4mi results

The car powered by this setup tested in 100 degree temps with the following results:

11.93@114 granny shifting 1st pass
60ft 1.68

11.99@115 ***** out
60ft 1.89

2150lbs

That's all the information I have - won't have the timeslips since they are internet shy. So, believe it or not - they don't care just telling it like it is take it or leave it. With better track conditions and hopefully more power from the new header (and perhaps cam change) - this car is shooting for 11.50's.

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Old Aug 22, 2005 | 05:47 PM
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Wow, awesome times with that setup. Thats nuts.
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Old Oct 11, 2005 | 08:16 PM
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Default new intake manifold tested



The above graph represents the gain seen with an intake manifold swap, untuned. One pull was made, then the clutch died. More testing to follow when the clutch can be replaced.

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