i'm sure the topic of these turbos has been talked about before. i did a quick search and couldnt find what i was looking for.

anyway.. i hear a lot of bad things about these complete turbo kits that go for about $1000. it appears that the turbo itself and the manifold are poorly made. so i was thinking.. "what if i bought the kit, and then swapped out the manifold and turbo for a good quality one?" I dont want MAJOR power gains, just a minimal boost for my auto LS(which i drive everyday).

has anyone done this? i just want some opinions. Thanks!

 

so u want to buy and then sell it? y dont u just save up

 

If you don't want major power gains don't boost the car.

 

well i was gonna keep all the plumbing, intercooler, etc. and sell just the manifold and turbo.. and that $ will be used towards something better.

by major power gains, i mean, i'm not gonna be taking this thing to a track. I just want more power that the bolt-ons just cant do.

 

DO NOT buy that turbo kit... end of thread.

 

Spend your money elsewhere...

Thier junk products have fitment issues. You'll end up replacing more than what you mentioned.

 

I can honestly say, that I think this may be a good idea. The formentioned parts are the weak point. My roommate got a kit for his civic, all is well, except the turbo. What you could sell the turbo for, and then buy a new high-quality, name brand one is close to the same amount if you're within a certain market. I say, go for it, but I have not tried this myself, and in no way, be able to corrctly, honestly answer this.

 

Don't believe everything you hear. I don't see why you wouldn't be able to get away with all ssac parts besides the turbo and the manifold. The wastegates are decent, I don't see a problem with the BOV's, the piping can't be bad, how do you mess up piping? Um the intercoolers are pretty decent. Theres no reason why you wouldn't be able to do this, especially since you can upgrade a little at a time.

I swear, people hate too much on some things and don't back up their hostility.

 

okay i'm probably one of the first H-T members to have experience with SSAC and their turbos about close to 3 years ago when they first came on to ebay. i had one of their t3/to4e turbos and had it installed for 2 weeks before the damn thing seized up on me. there was no user error involved. my younger brother bought one of their manifolds and the thing is a POS.


word of advice is to spend your money wisely the first time. you'll spend less money this way and end up happier when it's all said and done.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by shermanyang &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">okay i'm probably one of the first H-T members to have experience with SSAC and their turbos about close to 3 years ago when they first came on to ebay. i had one of their t3/to4e turbos and had it installed for 2 weeks before the damn thing seized up on me. there was no user error involved. my younger brother bought one of their manifolds and the thing is a POS.


word of advice is to spend your money wisely the first time. you'll spend less money this way and end up happier when it's all said and done.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I'm sorry, I don't mean to be a dick, but did you read the first post?

He said he wants to buy an ssac kit and REPLACE the TURBO and the MANIFOLD.

 

Don't do it..go legit

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Sh!ttyLS &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

I'm sorry, I don't mean to be a dick, but did you read the first post?

He said he wants to buy an ssac kit and REPLACE the TURBO and the MANIFOLD. </TD></TR></TABLE>


either way bro, there's no use buying the damn things because he's gonna have one hell of a time selling it. ****, my younger brother can't even sell his manifold and he hasn't even used his yet. these things are floating around the whole world and despised by many.

 

Some people here try to steer the thread creator away from the wrong track.

Then there's Sh!ttyLS---how well do you know about these kits? Have you read anything about them? Have you experience their kits first hand?


All that we are trying to do is save him the headache. Save him money. If he's going to do it, he may as well do it right the first time. Because if he sells his setup later on (and I know he will; boost is addicting), he's going to have difficulty selling them.

 

The ENTIRE kit is crap, so why keep useless parts? Just go with the advice of others, and save up your money, even if it is for minimal gains.

We dont want to see an obituary that reads : Liquid Ice NF dies from buying the worlds crappiest turbo kit, and he could never sell the worthless turbo or manifold. Giving it away for free didnt work either...

 

to answer your question ( or try my best to ) let me quote you here:

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Liquid Ice NF &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
anyway.. i hear a lot of bad things about these complete turbo kits that go for about $1000. it appears that the turbo itself and the manifold are poorly made.</TD></TR></TABLE>

you are correct, I have seen these ssac turbos kits go bad. Not a pretty picture. I believe someone else made a thread about it and had some pics posted up.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Liquid Ice NF &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
so i was thinking.. "what if i bought the kit, and then swapped out the manifold and turbo for a good quality one?" I dont want MAJOR power gains, just a minimal boost for my auto LS(which i drive everyday).

has anyone done this? i just want some opinions. Thanks!</TD></TR></TABLE>

In theory, that would be a good idea, but why waste the money buying more parts than you really need. If you're going to "piece together" the kit ( which is basically what you're doing anyhow ) why not just skip the part about buying the ssac kit and go do some research on the parts that will best suit your goals for your ride and go from there. That way....you save yourself some time and a lil bit o money and you don't have to re-sell ssac parts that most people will probably talk **** about. As for boosting an auto LS.....I've done searches for that topic and found that people have grenaded their trannies ( not sure how much boost they were running ) and recommended a manual swap over as opposed to leaving it auto ( unless you have lotsa money to repair it rebuild it or build it up to handle the power ).

 

you would have a very difficult time selling the turbo and the manifold. even if yo udo, you are still going to have to dish out money to buy a better turbo and manifold.

for the amount you finally do get for it, you are going to have to put up more cash to get a better turbo and manifold. just save up and get a drag or rev-hard kit or something along those lines.

 

Mostly everyone is saying the same **** not to buy it. Invest your money on something better.

Either listen to us or listen to Sh!ttyLS

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by NightRider-gsR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Some people here try to steer the thread creator away from the wrong track.

Then there's Sh!ttyLS---how well do you know about these kits? Have you read anything about them? Have you experience their kits first hand?


All that we are trying to do is save him the headache. Save him money. If he's going to do it, he may as well do it right the first time. Because if he sells his setup later on (and I know he will; boost is addicting), he's going to have difficulty selling them.</TD></TR></TABLE>

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by NightRider-gsR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Mostly everyone is saying the same **** not to buy it. Invest your money on something better.

Either listen to us or listen to Sh!ttyLS
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Dude you don't have to call me out. If you disagree, fine, I'm sure there are plenty of people on here who do. I am in no way saying he should do it, its his money, I'm not trying to put him on a wrong track, I'm not some kind of bad person thats trying to get him to buy bullshit just because I disagree with some peoples views about ssautochrome.

My friend has actually used some SSAC stuff on his LS turbo EG. I'll gladly admit that 90% of their stuff is ****. However, he seems to be having no problems with the few parts he uses that are from them. His intercooler was from OBX, which is a company that supplies ssautochrome, and if I'm not mistaken his wastegate is also OBX. As far as I know, he has had no problems with either.

Like I said I'm not saying he should get the kit. I just think some parts of it could be used.

 

but couldnt he just by the pieces separatley and save money instead of buying the whole kit and then trying to part it out?

 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by .brian. &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">but couldnt he just by the pieces separatley and save money instead of buying the whole kit and then trying to part it out? </TD></TR></TABLE>

Sure he could.

I recommend he does that actually. I was just answering his question specifically. Yes, he could get away with it most likely, but he would be definitely better off piecing together a kit.

 

I've seen a couple of SSAC wastegate failures before. One of them resulted in a perfectly good SR20DET being reduced to nothing more than a quality boat anchor.

 

A friend of mine is using a ssautochrome turbo manifold but with a garret t3 turbo. The kit is on a B18C (JDM GSR motor) and he's boosting to 12psi max, but for daily driving its set at a max of 7psi...he rags the hell out of the car and the manifold has held up pretty good over the last 18 months he's had it on...no signs of cracking/warping yet!!!!

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mugenracer &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">A friend of mine is using a ssautochrome turbo manifold but with a garret t3 turbo. The kit is on a B18C (JDM GSR motor) and he's boosting to 12psi max, but for daily driving its set at a max of 7psi...he rags the hell out of the car and the manifold has held up pretty good over the last 18 months he's had it on...no signs of cracking/warping yet!!!!</TD></TR></TABLE>

Thats pretty good for an SSAC manifold.

Thats one of the only good testimonials I've heard about one, aside from one other that someone claimed to use on a race car that held up alright.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Kendall &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I've seen a couple of SSAC wastegate failures before. One of them resulted in a perfectly good SR20DET being reduced to nothing more than a quality boat anchor.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Hahahaha boat anchor

I feel like I'm defending SSAC too much or something, but you have to be fair, sometimes wastegates just fail.