Now that testing has finally wrapped up, production has begun on our coilovers, under the name PIC (Power in Control) Performance.
Here's a look at a height adjustable set (dubbed Apex) for the EG/DC2/EK (with diff rear lower mount) chassis.


Here's the dyno chart for the above Apex's, for 10kF/8kR spring rates:


And the damping adjustable set (dubbed Select):


Unfortunately we don't have the dyno for our Selects at the moment. We've redesigned the adjustment mechanism and so it changed each level a little bit, so we are waiting to have a set re-dynoed.
Of course I'm incredibly excited, and I wanted to share a bit with you guys. Our lineup of coilovers will also include sets for Suby's WRX and Mitsu's Evo8, along with a host of other suspension parts. The website isn't ready to roll yet but I just couldn't wait. I know there will be a ton of skepticism about our coilovers because the pictures don't show much, but we strive to cover as much as possible on our website. Then again I'll gladly answer any q's you have here of course.

 

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who makes em and where do the springs come from?

 

lol I knew you'd post first!!
The springs are from a factory called Neturn Co. LTD in Tokyo. The forming of the springs is taken care of in Taiwan, but the steel comes pre-treated from Japan. They go through a process of cold-forming, heat-treating, shot-peening, and pre-setting at a factory in Taiwan. We get inspection certificates with each reel of wire we order, and I'm working on getting a few scanned.
We share production facilities in a factory in Kaoshiung, Taiwan.

 

thanks for replying. i have to at least be fair with my questions.

that "other" company never responded to the same question.

 

Understood. I've been fortunate enough to become privy to a lot of information that, as a consumer, I've been dying to find out for the longest time, so I'll do my best to share it with the rest of the community, within limits.

 

ill pay for shipping if you send a set of each to ryan to have the springs tested.

 

Ryan = vtecvoodoo? I gotta get the A-OK to send out two sets for testing, but I don't see it being a problem.

Got the inspection certificates scanned. What we are concerned with is that the specs are all within the allowed range, because while we admittedly don't understand what each one is, common sense dictates that something out of spec is not good.

 

how much are these going to retail for?

 

Any for the EF?

 

The Apex and Select sets picured above will sell for $800 and $1050, respectively. Finalized pricing for the rest (Suby and Mitsu Apex and Select versions, plus optional pillowball upper mounts) will be on the website, along with *possibly* drag coilovers, and sets for the neglected Mazda3.
edit: While we do intend to produce sets for the EF, they might take some additional time to produce. Looks like some shortening of the shock might be in order.
edit2: Sale going on now, for forum members (you guys!).


Modified by Noob4life at 12:48 AM 8/19/2005

 

interesting.... im guessing this will fall in the d2/ksport battles

 

They will fall wherever the market decides, I think. Its a tight market, and there's not a whole lot of room to budge, price-wise. So we'll be focusing our resources on quality of components, construction, testing and customer service.

 

All these companies are running out of colors to paint their cheap coilovers in order to still remain "different" or recognizable.

 

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tell omnipower that !

 

Inspection sheets are fun to look at, but the manufacturing process and QC are what really make a good product. Get me a couple springs and I will test if you'd like

 

I have the Apexs now, but we don't have any Selects on hand at the moment. We'll have a front and rear made up asap, and have that sent out from the factory to us here, and then send both pairs to you at the same time.

 

Did you want to test springs or the whole coilover? I can have either sent out, a front and rear pair for each.

 

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I'm not interested in dropping my car more than 1/2 inch or so, will a set made for another model work on the EF?

 

The set we are developing for the EF's have thinner rear shocks, 42mm ID vs 46mm ID of the rest, due to the fact that the 46mm does not fit quite right in the rear wheel well. The length of the shock body has also been shortened about 1". They should be done shortly after the first batch of our others are done, so I suggest waiting for the proper application if you want them.

 

Are those the colors you plan to use once released? If so good choice. I cant stand the bright colors, plan on painting my Ksports black before installing.

Its also nice to see someone upfront about their product(at least as far as you can without revealing too much).

If I didnt get the Ksports, yous would have definately been on my list.

 

Indeed. I had it in mind to use black and white from the get-go, the only choice was deciding how to split the usage. Although we ran into some difficulty in making black lower and upper mounts, since they are alloy and the colors just didn't seem to want to stay. So the mounts are the anodized silver that you see. The WRX's and Evo8's will get steel upper mounts, and those will be coated black, unless you go with the pillowball front mounts, which will be aluminum, and we have not decided on color for those yet.
I'm glad you guys can appreciate the info, I know it was very satisfying for me when I learned it in the first place. A lot of 's.

 

wow. Yet again another coilover on the market to confuse me. I guess ill wait for vtecvoodoo to work his majic.

 

All the more reason to get off yer keister and hit the books/internet and learn about a potential $800+ investment. While you wait for the test results, there is plenty of other info out there on the subject of dampers, springs, and all the good stuff that goes into making them and making them work well. So that when you are ready to buy, you are actually ready to buy, and not going in thinking "oh well I remember someone saying this was good... so I guess I'll get this...".
A few websites I used while I was doing some initial reading up on the subject:
http://www.swayaway.com/Suspension%20Worksheet.htm
Calculations!
http://www.athon-motorsport.co....html
More Calculations! Although this one is slightly different than the Sway-away website in their formulas... gotta be careful with info on the net. Why learn these things? It was useful for us in figuring out why we (and others) offer the common spring-rate combos that we do. Why 8/6, and not 10/4? Why not 8.5/7.2? There has to be some basic starting point in determing proper spring rates, this is where we chose to start.
http://www.circletrack.com/techarticles/82918/
One of the first sites I visited, after getting thoroughly confused in the "Official Shock Dyno" thread.
http://www.insideracingtechnology.com/eibach1.htm
I like how Eibach was willing to document this entire process and share it with us, this is a nice little walkthrough. Apparently Paul Haney knows a little bit about suspension

http://auto.howstuffworks.com/car-suspension.htm
Always helpful, Howstuffworks.com

 

i have pic lcas on my car.

i've ridden in a car with pic suspension and seen a setup in person. very nicely designed and built stuff.

 

Couple questions:

Will the dampening adjustable ones have seperate clicks for the levels of adjustment? ( please say yes)

Do you have a shock dyno of the different levels of this adjustment?

How many levels of adjustment are there?

What kind of warrenty is offered and servicablitly?

Also do you offer custom spring rates and how will this affect the warrenty?

you also have a variety of different coilvoers available for the same aplication with different spring rates. Are the same shcoks used and the shocks adjustbality used to compensate for the different stiffnesses?

As you can tell I am quite interested! Ohh any gorgeous color combo

Edit: Many of your other products dont match the color scheme of the black and white on your website. They are various colors like orange and yellow. Are these picture representative of the actual product?

The site encourages owners to track their coilovers yet the warrenty does not cover abuse? How do you differentiate between the two?