Kaizenspeed Balance Shaft Removal Kit
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Kaizenspeed Balance Shaft Removal Kit
I recently ordered this kit to use in a project article build Im working on. The Kaizenspeed balance shaft removal kit comes complete with instructions on how to correctly install each of the pieces included in the kit. It aslo comes with the allen wrench needed to thread the tap provided with the kit to plug the oil feed port in the block.
Reid, the owner of Kaizenspeed has been extremely helpfull with all and any questions Ive had regarding the kit.
This is an excelent choice for anybody looking to completely eliminate the balance shafts from your H/F block. The Kaizenspeed kit blocks off all of the oil passages that are left open once the balance shafts are removed which contributes to increased oil pressure and less windage.
Just wanted to let you guys know that there are balance shaft removal kit options out there for those who are looking to completely eliminate your balance shafts and properly block off the oil passages in your H/F block.
to Kaizenspeed for being the first and only company to offer a complete balance shaft removal kit for our motors. Its good to see us H/F guys getting the aftermarket attention we deserve...
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Re: Kaizenspeed Balance Shaft Removal Kit (Innovation)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by flip1199 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">what are the benifits of removing the balance shafts?</TD></TR></TABLE>
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by maxvtec7500 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I'm sorry to sound nieve, but what exactly is the purpose/gains for this? Thanks</TD></TR></TABLE>
Acceleration is better and basically it frees up the rotating assembly.
Its like if you were to take out your a/c, ps,or adding a light weight flywheel and lighter pulleys.
Heres a dyno https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=681306
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by maxvtec7500 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I'm sorry to sound nieve, but what exactly is the purpose/gains for this? Thanks</TD></TR></TABLE>
Acceleration is better and basically it frees up the rotating assembly.
Its like if you were to take out your a/c, ps,or adding a light weight flywheel and lighter pulleys.
Heres a dyno https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=681306
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Re: Kaizenspeed Balance Shaft Removal Kit (johnny five)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by johnny five »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">$82 shipped for the kit I plan on getting it also when I build my motor
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i bought mine for $20 shipped from a member on here... $82 is a crazy price to pay...........
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i bought mine for $20 shipped from a member on here... $82 is a crazy price to pay...........
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From: nova
Re: Kaizenspeed Balance Shaft Removal Kit (john d)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by john d »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i bought mine for $20 shipped from a member on here... $82 is a crazy price to pay........... </TD></TR></TABLE>
wow thats good deal, I got the price from kaizenspeed.
</TD></TR></TABLE>wow thats good deal, I got the price from kaizenspeed.
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From: Spec Shakesland
Re: Kaizenspeed Balance Shaft Removal Kit (johnny five)
its nice to see that the option is there for those that want it, however inless its a full race engine (which i understand yours is rick) i dont see the point. 3whp is nothing but braging rights on the dyno.
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Re: Kaizenspeed Balance Shaft Removal Kit (Shakes)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Shakes »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">its nice to see that the option is there for those that want it, however inless its a full race engine (which i understand yours is rick) i dont see the point. 3whp is nothing but braging rights on the dyno. </TD></TR></TABLE>
bumping oil pressure is more important to me, IMO.. If you block all oil passages used by the balance shafts properlly, its a nice boost in oil pressure
Rick, does this eliminate the need to pound the balance shaft bearings out and turn them 180 degrees? I have done this with all my motors in the past when I removed them, so I'm kinda curious where those "plugs" go in the block..
bumping oil pressure is more important to me, IMO.. If you block all oil passages used by the balance shafts properlly, its a nice boost in oil pressure
Rick, does this eliminate the need to pound the balance shaft bearings out and turn them 180 degrees? I have done this with all my motors in the past when I removed them, so I'm kinda curious where those "plugs" go in the block..
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From: Spec Shakesland
Re: Kaizenspeed Balance Shaft Removal Kit (Honda318dx)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Honda318dx »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
bumping oil pressure is more important to me, IMO.. If you block all oil passages used by the balance shafts properlly, its a nice boost in oil pressure
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what about shimming the pump though and using a smaller filter? if you dont want to lose the shafts where can you get the extra pressure from.
bumping oil pressure is more important to me, IMO.. If you block all oil passages used by the balance shafts properlly, its a nice boost in oil pressure
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what about shimming the pump though and using a smaller filter? if you dont want to lose the shafts where can you get the extra pressure from.
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Re: Kaizenspeed Balance Shaft Removal Kit (Shakes)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Shakes »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">its nice to see that the option is there for those that want it, however inless its a full race engine (which i understand yours is rick) i dont see the point. 3whp is nothing but braging rights on the dyno. </TD></TR></TABLE>
The motor I am using this kit for is a street motor, the motor will be going into a daily driven prelude. For anyone whos ever felt the before and after differences from removing the balance shafts (correctly), youd understand why Im going to go "shaftless" on this street motor. i want to extract every bit of power possible, even if it is 1-3, thats 1-3 more HP than I wouldnt have had by keeping the balance shafts.
I paid $82 for the kit which includes a full pictorial and easy to follow instructions on how to install the kit properly... Which in itself is worth the $82. Not to metion the owner, Reid is a great guy and has been more than helpfull with any questions I have had since I recieved the kit. The customer service from Kaizenspeed has been awesome, its definitely a good thing to see and experience in this industry. Not many companies are willing to take the time and care enough to ensure their customers use their product properly and make sure they are satisfied with the product in general.
Corey:
The kit pieces replace the dowel pins in the main cap bridge and plug the oil feed source in the block. Ill e-mail Kaizenspeed and see if I can get the images they use in the instructional sheets provided with the kits sent to me so I can post them up. Its pretty simple to understand once you see the pics.
Remember you guys, companies such as Kazenspeed who go out of their way to make products like this for our preludes-H/F motors should be given the support they deserve. I have a lot of respect for Reid and Kaizenspeed, I am attempting to bring products out for the prelude guys myself. I knowwhat its like being a little guy in the business world.
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The motor I am using this kit for is a street motor, the motor will be going into a daily driven prelude. For anyone whos ever felt the before and after differences from removing the balance shafts (correctly), youd understand why Im going to go "shaftless" on this street motor. i want to extract every bit of power possible, even if it is 1-3, thats 1-3 more HP than I wouldnt have had by keeping the balance shafts.
I paid $82 for the kit which includes a full pictorial and easy to follow instructions on how to install the kit properly... Which in itself is worth the $82. Not to metion the owner, Reid is a great guy and has been more than helpfull with any questions I have had since I recieved the kit. The customer service from Kaizenspeed has been awesome, its definitely a good thing to see and experience in this industry. Not many companies are willing to take the time and care enough to ensure their customers use their product properly and make sure they are satisfied with the product in general.
Corey:
The kit pieces replace the dowel pins in the main cap bridge and plug the oil feed source in the block. Ill e-mail Kaizenspeed and see if I can get the images they use in the instructional sheets provided with the kits sent to me so I can post them up. Its pretty simple to understand once you see the pics.
Remember you guys, companies such as Kazenspeed who go out of their way to make products like this for our preludes-H/F motors should be given the support they deserve. I have a lot of respect for Reid and Kaizenspeed, I am attempting to bring products out for the prelude guys myself. I knowwhat its like being a little guy in the business world.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by machine4321 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">thanks ..i really enjoy your posts,
what are the plans for your motor ? </TD></TR></TABLE>
I cant release any details of the project quite yet but Ill try and get an introduction post up as soon as I can... Im still getting everything together for the actual build, once all the parts are in and the first part of the article is written Ill give a few details about the project and its purpose...
what are the plans for your motor ? </TD></TR></TABLE>
I cant release any details of the project quite yet but Ill try and get an introduction post up as soon as I can... Im still getting everything together for the actual build, once all the parts are in and the first part of the article is written Ill give a few details about the project and its purpose...
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Re: Kaizenspeed Balance Shaft Removal Kit (Shakes)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Shakes »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">inless its a full race engine (which i understand yours is rick) i dont see the point. </TD></TR></TABLE>
3 whp / $82 (shipped and installed) = .036 whp/shipped $
by comparison, you could spend no more than $2733 (shipped and installed) on turbo kit that produced 100 whp to beat the performance/price ratio offered by removing this kit.
3 whp / $82 (shipped and installed) = .036 whp/shipped $
by comparison, you could spend no more than $2733 (shipped and installed) on turbo kit that produced 100 whp to beat the performance/price ratio offered by removing this kit.
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Re: Kaizenspeed Balance Shaft Removal Kit (Innovation)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Innovation »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
The motor I am using this kit for is a street motor, the motor will be going into a daily driven prelude. For anyone whos ever felt the before and after differences from removing the balance shafts (correctly), youd understand why Im going to go "shaftless" on this street motor. i want to extract every bit of power possible, even if it is 1-3, thats 1-3 more HP than I wouldnt have had by keeping the balance shafts.
I paid $82 for the kit which includes a full pictorial and easy to follow instructions on how to install the kit properly... Which in itself is worth the $82. Not to metion the owner, Reid is a great guy and has been more than helpfull with any questions I have had since I recieved the kit. The customer service from Kaizenspeed has been awesome, its definitely a good thing to see and experience in this industry. Not many companies are willing to take the time and care enough to ensure their customers use their product properly and make sure they are satisfied with the product in general.
Corey:
The kit pieces replace the dowel pins in the main cap bridge and plug the oil feed source in the block. Ill e-mail Kaizenspeed and see if I can get the images they use in the instructional sheets provided with the kits sent to me so I can post them up. Its pretty simple to understand once you see the pics.
Remember you guys, companies such as Kazenspeed who go out of their way to make products like this for our preludes-H/F motors should be given the support they deserve. I have a lot of respect for Reid and Kaizenspeed, I am attempting to bring products out for the prelude guys myself. I knowwhat its like being a little guy in the business world.
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its not a complicated project... but i guess if you want the extra insurance of the instructions/pics more power to you (not being sarcastic) i didnt really notice a diff. in these when i got the car running again but then again it was 9:1 (when i was breaking it in n/a)
Shakes- you are right. its not worth it to pruchase this/run them, if you dont have a full-race set up. i wouldnt call my car "full-race" but i dont have a/c,cruise,etc..so id figure i might was well remove them.
to the person that asked where i got it for 20 bucks- ill try to find his s/n tonight, but let me tell you, they are the exact same thing without the $70 paperwork... jk...
The motor I am using this kit for is a street motor, the motor will be going into a daily driven prelude. For anyone whos ever felt the before and after differences from removing the balance shafts (correctly), youd understand why Im going to go "shaftless" on this street motor. i want to extract every bit of power possible, even if it is 1-3, thats 1-3 more HP than I wouldnt have had by keeping the balance shafts.
I paid $82 for the kit which includes a full pictorial and easy to follow instructions on how to install the kit properly... Which in itself is worth the $82. Not to metion the owner, Reid is a great guy and has been more than helpfull with any questions I have had since I recieved the kit. The customer service from Kaizenspeed has been awesome, its definitely a good thing to see and experience in this industry. Not many companies are willing to take the time and care enough to ensure their customers use their product properly and make sure they are satisfied with the product in general.
Corey:
The kit pieces replace the dowel pins in the main cap bridge and plug the oil feed source in the block. Ill e-mail Kaizenspeed and see if I can get the images they use in the instructional sheets provided with the kits sent to me so I can post them up. Its pretty simple to understand once you see the pics.
Remember you guys, companies such as Kazenspeed who go out of their way to make products like this for our preludes-H/F motors should be given the support they deserve. I have a lot of respect for Reid and Kaizenspeed, I am attempting to bring products out for the prelude guys myself. I knowwhat its like being a little guy in the business world.
to Kaizenspeed</TD></TR></TABLE>its not a complicated project... but i guess if you want the extra insurance of the instructions/pics more power to you (not being sarcastic) i didnt really notice a diff. in these when i got the car running again but then again it was 9:1 (when i was breaking it in n/a)
Shakes- you are right. its not worth it to pruchase this/run them, if you dont have a full-race set up. i wouldnt call my car "full-race" but i dont have a/c,cruise,etc..so id figure i might was well remove them.
to the person that asked where i got it for 20 bucks- ill try to find his s/n tonight, but let me tell you, they are the exact same thing without the $70 paperwork... jk...
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Re: Kaizenspeed Balance Shaft Removal Kit (john d)
I'm buying a set. If you ever had to pound your balance shafts out to rotate them, you would realize how nice this kit is!
http://www.kaizenspeed.com/
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From: Purple Prelude, DE
Re: Kaizenspeed Balance Shaft Removal Kit (Honda318dx)
There is almost no difference in vibrations when running a "shaftless" motor..... I was in a "shaftless" prelude 3 years ago when hondaddict was the only game in town for plugs, and we couldn't tell the difference....... its nice to see someone making parts for our cars/motors... however you can make a plug kit on your own if you know what you're doing, thats what I did..... this is definatly a good buy for someone looking to remove the shafts but who doesn't know the ins/outs of the motor that well......
Lets keep these new H parts coming!
Lets keep these new H parts coming!
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From: Northwest Tri Cities Kennewick, WA, USA
Re: Kaizenspeed Balance Shaft Removal Kit (Drag-Accord)
Guys-
Thanks for the compliments, we are constantly improving the product and expanding applications. I have a billet aluminum block-off plate being made at the machine shop right now. This will allow removal of the rear balance shaft drive pulley, drive gear and case and will compliment the kits we've sold thus far. Within the next few weeks I'll post a total weight savings with the kit, rotating weight and dead weight. Also, the kit will soon be available for the different variations of F-series engines (f22a, f22b2, f23, etc.). I would like to get my hands on an F20b to make sure the dowel pin and oil feed holes are the same diameter but I'm not holding my breath.
I will be sure to post some more info within the next few weeks.
Contact: Reid@Kaizenspeed.com
Thanks for the compliments, we are constantly improving the product and expanding applications. I have a billet aluminum block-off plate being made at the machine shop right now. This will allow removal of the rear balance shaft drive pulley, drive gear and case and will compliment the kits we've sold thus far. Within the next few weeks I'll post a total weight savings with the kit, rotating weight and dead weight. Also, the kit will soon be available for the different variations of F-series engines (f22a, f22b2, f23, etc.). I would like to get my hands on an F20b to make sure the dowel pin and oil feed holes are the same diameter but I'm not holding my breath.
I will be sure to post some more info within the next few weeks. Contact: Reid@Kaizenspeed.com
