so wat is it guys?

 

its 2-4 I think, not really sure but I know intakes dont give much

 

i think its more like 1 hp

 

An Intake is not a matter of how much HP you gain, it is a matter of letting your car breath better. I have had intake on both my tegs and i even put one on my S-10 and I have allways noticed a performance gain. Intakes are worth the $$$'s and the more you do to the car the more the intake becomes a major factor

 

1-3whp
but in all reality i believe bolt ons dont do ****. you will never feel any gains from any bolt ons anf 99.9% of the time its all in your head if you think your car is faster.
the only real noticable differance is the sound. the intake will make the car sound like a whole nother car

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by riceball777 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">1-3whp
but in all reality i believe bolt ons dont do ****. you will never feel any gains from any bolt ons anf 99.9% of the time its all in your head if you think your car is faster.
the only real noticable differance is the sound. the intake will make the car sound like a whole nother car </TD></TR></TABLE><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by riceball777 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">1-3whp
but in all reality i believe bolt ons dont do ****. you will never feel any gains from any bolt ons anf 99.9% of the time its all in your head if you think your car is faster.
the only real noticable differance is the sound. the intake will make the car sound like a whole nother car </TD></TR></TABLE>

really ?

my car went from 136whp and 97 lbs torque to 163 whp and 124 lbs torque with a custom ram intake, header, exhaust, and a skunk2 chip and a grounding kit.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TheSaint &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">really ?

my car went from 136whp and 97 lbs torque to 163 whp and 124 lbs torque with a custom ram intake, header, exhaust, and a skunk2 chip and a grounding kit.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I wanna see the dyno sheets

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JdM DA InTeGrA &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

I wanna see the dyno sheets</TD></TR></TABLE>

yea me too....i think your car might have had just old *** parts that were resticting the flow

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TheSaint &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

really ?

my car went from 136whp and 97 lbs torque to 163 whp and 124 lbs torque with a custom ram intake, header, exhaust, and a skunk2 chip and a grounding kit.


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aint that some bull ****

 

olt ons do nothing? what do u consider bolt ons? my friend has a 99 civic si, he has i/h/e and vafc. that car dfinatly got faster. but it does depend on the quality of the parts.
im not saying that it got a huge jump in power like thesaint but bolt ons can make a difference

 

I seee.. well I do noticed a very noticeable different right 3500 that my car definitely got faster. Back then I remember i read some test on HT about V2 giving like 10 -12hp, but i'm not sure that why I asks.

I think intake do make a difference because back then I used to hav an Accord and when i put on my intake I felt slow and i count from 0-60mph and it was 10sec flat. hahahha. I thought it was slow with loud sound, but now I went back to stock intake box and i tested the 0-60mph on the car it came to like 14 to 15sec. SO yea. i do believe the intake make a difference.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by AznMTboy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I seee.. well I do noticed a very noticeable different right 3500 that my car definitely got faster. Back then I remember i read some test on HT about V2 giving like 10 -12hp, but i'm not sure that why I asks.

I think intake do make a difference because back then I used to hav an Accord and when i put on my intake I felt slow and i count from 0-60mph and it was 10sec flat. hahahha. I thought it was slow with loud sound, but now I went back to stock intake box and i tested the 0-60mph on the car it came to like 14 to 15sec. SO yea. i do believe the intake make a difference.</TD></TR></TABLE>

its all in your head kid...your intake did not make any difference in your 0-60 time that youd be able to count....i can gauruntee that...

 

that is tru, an intake doesnt do much. but headers ,exhaust and IM could make a difference

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by WhiteGSR95 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">that is tru, an intake doesnt do much. but headers ,exhaust and IM could make a difference</TD></TR></TABLE>

i think that the basic i/h/e combo work best together...with just an intake it isnt gonna do much, because you didnt open up most of the flow restrictors...(ext. mni& exhaust)..but all in all i believe the basic bolt ons can be worth maybe 8-12 over stock...if even that

 

most good intakes will give a good mid-range gain, meaning 5 or even 10 hp, but as far as PEAK hp goes, only a couple up there

 

ive seen all kinds of dynos where basic bolt ons give a pretty healthy hp gain. in import tuner's power pages they did a 2000 gsr i think it was... comptech ice box, dc 4-2-1 and thermal exhaust and jumped up 13 hp to 161. thats roughly a 9% hp gain. 9% gain is pretty big, throw that up against 200 hp... thats 18 300 is 27, ill take that. I heard my friend talking about how he got 20 hp outta an intake and exhaust on his z28 camaro... 20 hp... thats huge i thought... but alas thats small potato(e)s on the percentage scale.

edit: http://www.2kracing.com/inform...4.pdf thats the v1 on a vtec gsr. but who knows how accurate it is... it comes straight from aem. take it for what its worth i guess.

 

i had one of those front-mount intake things i got off eBay. it wasn't very expensive, so i figured what the heck. i got 9whp over stock intake arm and airbox (no resonator crap in the fender and whatnot). that was with a big fan on the front mount thing, so take it with a grain of salt if you like. this was like the winter before this past one. as far as bolt-ons, i tested a couple years ago with cam gears on stock cams, shorty intake, DC 4-2-1 headers and axle-back exhaust with bullet-style non-muffling "muffler," and went from 118whp to 124whp. no fuel management of any kind, though, so maybe i could have hit higher, maybe not. it's been so long since i was a bolt-ons kinda guy. they don't make enough difference by themselves, but try running a motor with big cams on a stock header or stock exhaust.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by kevpotts &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ive seen all kinds of dynos where basic bolt ons give a pretty healthy hp gain. in import tuner's power pages they did a 2000 gsr i think it was... comptech ice box, dc 4-2-1 and thermal exhaust and jumped up 13 hp to 161. thats roughly a 9% hp gain. 9% gain is pretty big, throw that up against 200 hp... thats 18 300 is 27, ill take that. I heard my friend talking about how he got 20 hp outta an intake and exhaust on his z28 camaro... 20 hp... thats huge i thought... but alas thats small potato(e)s on the percentage scale.

edit: http://www.2kracing.com/inform...4.pdf thats the v1 on a vtec gsr. but who knows how accurate it is... it comes straight from aem. take it for what its worth i guess.</TD></TR></TABLE>

yea, i mean bolt ons do increase power, but not as some may think...some ppl stand by all the manuafactures dyno test...that boast a 20whp over stock gain, &lt; i dought that. and for higher displacment cars suck as camaros...and such they take well to mods


Modified by projectTeG at 1:51 AM 6/7/2005

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by projectTeG &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
the basic bolt ons can be worth maybe 8-12 over stock...if even that</TD></TR></TABLE>

you luckey to even get theat with whe basic i/h/e

 

Hey Guys, I just bought a 2000 gs-r and i have been doing some really in depth research about bolt-ons, exhaust systems, and tuning. What i have learned is that bolt-ons alone will not do it. Tuning plays a huge part in extracting as much power from your setup as possible. Even if it is just a CAI you are installing, you will benifit from tuning. Header tests have shown a gain of up to 20hp after tuning.
Here are some dyno charts showing a gs-r with some bolt-ons, with and without tuning. Dyno

Also you run too rich after i/h/c/e using a stock program and so you should reprogram or fuel tune to get better responsiveness and more power.

Hope that helps guys.

 

i have so many questions about tuning i dont even know where to begin. I seached but nothing really answered my questions. ehhh... ok what do you need before you take it to the dyno? my car has i/e soon to be i/h/e and id liek to do this all the right way. will a vafc work? or do i need that hondata/uberdata business. also... what is hondata and uberdata. sigh.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by riceball777 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">1-3whp
but in all reality i believe bolt ons dont do ****. you will never feel any gains from any bolt ons anf 99.9% of the time its all in your head if you think your car is faster.
the only real noticable differance is the sound. the intake will make the car sound like a whole nother car </TD></TR></TABLE>

Quite possibly the dumbest thing i have heard all week.

 

why spend all that money on i/h/e for such minimal gains. just boost it

 

It might feel faster but doesnt necessarily mean its quicker. Id say if u got the money and time baseline that thing then add ur bolt ons and see what u get with your added bolt ons. The dyno dont lie. Anyway with the V2 u prob only get around 2-4HP increase as some1 posted above.


Modified by NAiL05 at 12:22 PM 6/9/2005

 

only way to tell is A. go to the dyno or B. go to the track