My first engine build picts, more picts wanted
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My first engine build picts, more picts wanted
Hello all,
Just a little background. This is a JDM H22A. Consists of Type S pistons, ARP hardware, Crower Titanium Retains and Valve Springs, Crower Stage 3 cams, TWM Individual Throttle Bodies, LoveFab header (new header design to be tested over summer), Fidanza flywheel, Balancer Shafts removed, and currently waiting for Fluidampr to release its harmonic damper.
This is the first car engine I have built, everything except boring and honing (for oversized Type S pistons) and valvespring and retainer install was done by me. I built one 2 stroke motor for my old motorcycle once before this. Everything went extremely smoothly, and I properly torqued every possible bolt I could with a Snap-On torque wrench. I followed the service manual info as completely as I possibly could, but of course there are like 3 left over bolts. I know for a fact I installed everything internal properly. I triple checked everything inside the motor, and these extra bolts appear to have been installed outside the motor due to the dirt appearent on the heads. I am hoping to get some fully, properly built, motor picts. I am also aware a lot of the timing belt assembly isn't installed, but until I get my damper, I am going to hold of on that stuff. Well, sorry for going on forever, feel free to comment, make suggestions, and post pictures. Thanks.
Dan
Just a little background. This is a JDM H22A. Consists of Type S pistons, ARP hardware, Crower Titanium Retains and Valve Springs, Crower Stage 3 cams, TWM Individual Throttle Bodies, LoveFab header (new header design to be tested over summer), Fidanza flywheel, Balancer Shafts removed, and currently waiting for Fluidampr to release its harmonic damper.
This is the first car engine I have built, everything except boring and honing (for oversized Type S pistons) and valvespring and retainer install was done by me. I built one 2 stroke motor for my old motorcycle once before this. Everything went extremely smoothly, and I properly torqued every possible bolt I could with a Snap-On torque wrench. I followed the service manual info as completely as I possibly could, but of course there are like 3 left over bolts. I know for a fact I installed everything internal properly. I triple checked everything inside the motor, and these extra bolts appear to have been installed outside the motor due to the dirt appearent on the heads. I am hoping to get some fully, properly built, motor picts. I am also aware a lot of the timing belt assembly isn't installed, but until I get my damper, I am going to hold of on that stuff. Well, sorry for going on forever, feel free to comment, make suggestions, and post pictures. Thanks.
Dan
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Re: My first engine build picts, more picts wanted (rawkus)
Nice looking project you got there. I'm putting together my engine(H22a) as well. i see you have some balanceshaft plate manufactured there, homemade?? I want to do the same but then leave the shafts in, just NOT installing the belt. Is there anything i should know, cause 1 balanceshaft seems to have some oil gears inside. What is gonna happing if i don;t install the belt??
Good luck with the project. and keep us posted
Good luck with the project. and keep us posted
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Re: My first engine build picts, more picts wanted (rawkus)
Ditch that header... unequal primaries never do any motor any good, headers dont work like turbo manifolds... You cant just pair the primaries at any lengths and expect it to work properly...
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Re: My first engine build picts, more picts wanted (rawkus)
I wish I know How to do that....
only thing I can do is bolt ons... it's like putting Legos together~ hehe
engine looks great~ to me~ can you build me one like that? ^^;
Where did you get that individual throttle?
only thing I can do is bolt ons... it's like putting Legos together~ hehe
engine looks great~ to me~ can you build me one like that? ^^;
Where did you get that individual throttle?
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Re: My first engine build picts, more picts wanted (Innovation)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Innovation »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Ditch that header... unequal primaries never do any motor any good, headers dont work like turbo manifolds... You cant just pair the primaries at any lengths and expect it to work properly...
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I don't think the end of that piece is the end of the primaries. I'm willing to bet its a 4-1 header, and the other half of the header continues the primaries down to the oil pan.
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I don't think the end of that piece is the end of the primaries. I'm willing to bet its a 4-1 header, and the other half of the header continues the primaries down to the oil pan.
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Re: My first engine build picts, more picts wanted (prelude1897)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by prelude1897 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Looks good so far </TD></TR></TABLE>
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Re: My first engine build picts, more picts wanted (Innovation)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Innovation »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Ditch that header... unequal primaries never do any motor any good, headers dont work like turbo manifolds... You cant just pair the primaries at any lengths and expect it to work properly...
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Greyout »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
I don't think the end of that piece is the end of the primaries. I'm willing to bet its a 4-1 header, and the other half of the header continues the primaries down to the oil pan.</TD></TR></TABLE>
even if it is a 4-1 the primaries are the tubes before the merge collector, reguardless of the 2nd half of the header.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Greyout »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
I don't think the end of that piece is the end of the primaries. I'm willing to bet its a 4-1 header, and the other half of the header continues the primaries down to the oil pan.</TD></TR></TABLE>
even if it is a 4-1 the primaries are the tubes before the merge collector, reguardless of the 2nd half of the header.
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Re: My first engine build picts, more picts wanted (prelittlelude)
Thanks for all the good words.
As far as the header, it was originally intended for use with a turbo so it is far from optimized for this setup. Currently Cody and I are discussing varies options for a good design, and are pretty convinced a good, equal length 4-1, with medium-to-long primaries are they way to go. If funds allow it, we will try stepped primaries, and maybed a few different designs to see what works out the best. Also, we have an idea for a little boost in mid-range power that we haven't seen done on any other automotive header, and I want to try it out. I will be sure to keep everyone up to date on the progress of the header.
Dan
As far as the header, it was originally intended for use with a turbo so it is far from optimized for this setup. Currently Cody and I are discussing varies options for a good design, and are pretty convinced a good, equal length 4-1, with medium-to-long primaries are they way to go. If funds allow it, we will try stepped primaries, and maybed a few different designs to see what works out the best. Also, we have an idea for a little boost in mid-range power that we haven't seen done on any other automotive header, and I want to try it out. I will be sure to keep everyone up to date on the progress of the header.
Dan
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Re: (rawkus)
Just to answer a few posts I some how missed...
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Fly1865 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Also i would say use the H23 tensioner with an upgraded timming belt. </TD></TR></TABLE>
I will be using the H23 tensioner setup, but with a stock belt, I got a brand new one for free when I bought the motor.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by musclefella »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Nice looking project you got there. I'm putting together my engine(H22a) as well. i see you have some balanceshaft plate manufactured there, homemade?? I want to do the same but then leave the shafts in, just NOT installing the belt. Is there anything i should know, cause 1 balanceshaft seems to have some oil gears inside. What is gonna happing if i don;t install the belt??
Good luck with the project. and keep us posted </TD></TR></TABLE>
I had an H23Vtec setup before this, came with the car. The motor had the balancer shafts still installed, but not hooked up. As far as I know, this should cause no problems as far as oiling goes, but I did have low oil pressure with that block. I believe the problem was due to a stuck oil pressure valve, but I am not 100% sure. If you are going to leave them in the block, I would recommend to continue running them. The performance gain from not running them is minimal. I was given this block with all the oiling parts to the balancer shafts plugged, and these block off plates where included and came from a kit originally, I didn't order them seperatly.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Dougs96SI »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">What cam gears are you running or are they the stock ones?
Looks great!</TD></TR></TABLE>
These are the stock ones.
I should have this running within two weeks. I will keep everyone posted.
Dan
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Fly1865 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Also i would say use the H23 tensioner with an upgraded timming belt. </TD></TR></TABLE>
I will be using the H23 tensioner setup, but with a stock belt, I got a brand new one for free when I bought the motor.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by musclefella »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Nice looking project you got there. I'm putting together my engine(H22a) as well. i see you have some balanceshaft plate manufactured there, homemade?? I want to do the same but then leave the shafts in, just NOT installing the belt. Is there anything i should know, cause 1 balanceshaft seems to have some oil gears inside. What is gonna happing if i don;t install the belt??
Good luck with the project. and keep us posted </TD></TR></TABLE>
I had an H23Vtec setup before this, came with the car. The motor had the balancer shafts still installed, but not hooked up. As far as I know, this should cause no problems as far as oiling goes, but I did have low oil pressure with that block. I believe the problem was due to a stuck oil pressure valve, but I am not 100% sure. If you are going to leave them in the block, I would recommend to continue running them. The performance gain from not running them is minimal. I was given this block with all the oiling parts to the balancer shafts plugged, and these block off plates where included and came from a kit originally, I didn't order them seperatly.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Dougs96SI »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">What cam gears are you running or are they the stock ones?
Looks great!</TD></TR></TABLE>
These are the stock ones.
I should have this running within two weeks. I will keep everyone posted.
Dan
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I am in need of a clutch alignment tool, and a crank bolt for my motor. Just for future reference, the crank bolt from a H23 doesn't fit. If anyone has either, let me know asap. Thanks.
Dan
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by rawkus »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I am in need of a clutch alignment tool, and a crank bolt for my motor. Just for future reference, the crank bolt from a H23 doesn't fit. If anyone has either, let me know asap. Thanks.
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For the clutch alignment tool that will depend on which clutch you are using, each brand usually gives one when you get a clutch kit. i know you're not using a stock clutch with that setup.
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For the clutch alignment tool that will depend on which clutch you are using, each brand usually gives one when you get a clutch kit. i know you're not using a stock clutch with that setup.
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For the clutch alignment tool that will depend on which clutch you are using, each brand usually gives one when you get a clutch kit. i know you're not using a stock clutch with that setup. </TD></TR></TABLE>
I am using the ACT Clutch that came with my H23Vtec. It has about 300 miles on it. If I can't find something soon, I will contact ACT. Thanks.
Dan
For the clutch alignment tool that will depend on which clutch you are using, each brand usually gives one when you get a clutch kit. i know you're not using a stock clutch with that setup.
</TD></TR></TABLE>I am using the ACT Clutch that came with my H23Vtec. It has about 300 miles on it. If I can't find something soon, I will contact ACT. Thanks.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jnet »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">For the clutch alignment tool that will depend on which clutch you are using, each brand usually gives one when you get a clutch kit. i know you're not using a stock clutch with that setup. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Most H/F series trannys have the same splines on the mainshaft,
so a lot of the same alignment tools will work.
Looks good rawkus
</TD></TR></TABLE>Most H/F series trannys have the same splines on the mainshaft,
so a lot of the same alignment tools will work.
Looks good rawkus