im using a b18b block
shot peened rods
ctr pistons
polished and balanced crank
gsr water pump
2000 si b16 head
jerry built street strip port and polish
sk2 stg3 cams
sk2 cam gears
sk2 valves, valves springs, retainers
tmw itbs 48 mm
and for a header i would like a dtr but i dont know if i will have any money left over

im selling my EG to do this so tell me what you think

 

Ditch the stage 3's.

Pop in some buddy club 4's, have alazniz do your headwork. ITB's are awesome, but a bitch to tune. This sounds like you want it to be a race engine. If so, get some decent forged internals, then you can go w/ the stage 3's and jerry built headwork w/ itb's...

 

i want a streetable motor that will hit around 200 hp. this is my daily driver, oh yeah i was planing on tuning with a s200

 

I wouldnt get the skunk2 valvtrain, iv heard way too many stories of valve sprigs breaking. Might want ta look into getting some others.

 

A streetable motor that will hit 200?



No port/polish, no crazy cams, stock 81mm bore, stock 89mm stroke, shitty dc 4-1 header, shitty crush bent exhaust to a no name muffler.

Hondata of course. You dont need all that stuff to hit 200whp, especially itb's. Put your money in the right places and youll walk away veeeery happy.

 

WTF?! thats crazy what setup is that guy running?

 

That guy? Thats me...

Its real basic. pr4 rods, p72 pistons, gsr head, omnipower valve train, flat faced valves, buddy club spec 3's.

 

you should be able to get 200whp without crazy cams and port job. Like the other guy said.
But I would probably stay away from the skunk valve train. I have seen 2 failures here in the last 6 months= lots of damage. 1 valve broke, and the other was spring breaking. Oh yea they do not warranty those parts.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TODA2nr &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">im using a b18b block
shot peened rods
ctr pistons
polished and balanced crank
gsr water pump
2000 si b16 head
jerry built street strip port and polish
sk2 stg3 cams
sk2 cam gears
sk2 valves, valves springs, retainers
tmw itbs 48 mm
and for a header i would like a dtr but i dont know if i will have any money left over

im selling my EG to do this so tell me what you think </TD></TR></TABLE>

You're missing a few things.
ARP Rod bolts
ARP head studs
GSR/ITR Oil pump

Ditch the S2 valvetrain with something like Crower or Ferrea
What pistons are you going to be running with this setup? Hopefully some CTRs

If you plan on revving past 8k-85 (you most likely are...), it would be wise to use a Main girdle, and forged rods... Balance your rotating assembly while you're at it.

 

It says he will be running CTR pistons. I dont think he needs them. I personally believe he'd be better off with a set of p30's or pr3's. You can make up the loss in compression with timing/fuel/overall tuning.

 

Don't forget to subtract 5-10hp from that graph if you're going to dyno it on a dyno jet.

 

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either way, very close to 200whp. Easily attainable with a better header.

 

I agree, 200whp on the 89 crank should not be hard. Want a cheap and reliable combo?

B18 BLOCK
-P30 pistons
-NPR rings
-ACL bearings
-ARP rod bolts

B16 HEAD
-Type R outer valve springs
-Portflow inner valve springs
-Portflow retainers
-Buddy Club Spec 3+ cams
-ARP head studs
-B16 throttle body
-AEBS intake manifold
-ITR header

&gt;Adjustable cam gears
&gt;Adjustable fuel pressure reguator

P28 ECU chipped
-Apex VAFC I


SPEND THE REST ON TUNING...

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by thevanitygroup &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I agree, 200whp on the 89 crank should not be hard. Want a cheap and reliable combo?

B18 BLOCK
-P30 pistons
-NPR rings
-ACL bearings
-ARP rod bolts

B16 HEAD
-Type R outer valve springs
-Portflow inner valve springs
-Portflow retainers
-Buddy Club Spec 3+ cams
-ARP head studs
-B16 throttle body
-AEBS intake manifold
-ITR header

&gt;Adjustable cam gears
&gt;Adjustable fuel pressure reguator

P28 ECU chipped
-Apex VAFC I


SPEND THE REST ON TUNING...</TD></TR></TABLE>

Everything looks good but with the price of hondata getting lower and lower and the amount of people using it to tune going up and up and i would STILL spend the money and get something that can do igntion.

 

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ctr piston compression with 89MM crank is way high.to each their own though..lets see some graphs when its done

 

^ An LS with CTR's is too high compression wise, plus the CTR's are a heavier piston and have a high dome which dosent help with equal chamber combustion and flow. The compression with the P30's is in the mid to high 11's and that perfect pump gas area. Hookups and R&D made 250+HP in the Allmotor shoot out with 11.5.1 compression ...

 

Plus this guy right here has some for sale for $179!

 

Actually no I dont... hahah ... Ran out.. I need to delete that..

 

You can always go for some jdm itr pistons. Spark Racing has a deal on them. They arent OEM though. What octane are you going to be using? I'd also ditch the s2 valvetrain and cams as well. Maybe go omnipower or RM for valvetrain. And some m22s.

 

i was originaly gonna go with jdm itr pistons, but the i heard ctrs are better. i would be running 91 octane, just regular pump gas.

 

I'd go with the jdm itrs when running 91 octane. It aint good to have high compression and can't back it up with good gas, atleast 93octane or something. But yea, go with the jdm itrs. I'd rather have the ability to advance timing rather then have it retarded.

 

The Honda OEM P30 piston are the best factory cast B-SERIES all motor piston available. In applications where it dosent boost compression, milling the head is the course of action that should be taken.

CTR's in a LS/V is too much compression! In california, while using pump gas, one should NEVER exceed 11.5.1 compression ratio!!

 

werd and as for valve train i dont really know what to go with now, or what cams.

 

lol... this oughta be good tony

 

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Omnipower, or rocket valvetrain is good.

With cams, just make sure you dont go to big, and kill your mid range.