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Old Mar 23, 2005 | 02:39 PM
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Default Civic rad in 4th gen: Here's how...

EDIT: I know this is an old thread, but I saw that the pics where down so I fixed all the links.

In an effort to reduce wieght, replace my leaking radiator, and make more room for a turbo setup I decided to put a Civic radiator in my lude. There are many people with boosted H22s using these so overheating doesn't seem to be an issue.

So I bought one of these--



from here--https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1054593

and I got it quickly and the product is excellent. Better than in that picture, actually...

Then I bought a 14" electric fan from Autozone ($65) and an upper rad hose for a 95 Civic ($10). You will need the Civic hose because the Civic rad has smaller nipples so you put the Prelude hose around peices of the Civic hose.

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First step is to drain the coolant. I undid the lower rad hose because my drain plug is broken off. Then while it's draining, unplug the rad fan (or fans depending if you have AC or not), and then loosen all their bolts and take them out. Then unbolt the upper rad supports from the car and undo the hoses from the radiator. Then remove the radiator. Some of you probably have more crap in your car than I do, but figure it out.

Old leaky junk--



Next step is to mock up the location of the new rad so you can modify the hoses. Just hold it in place for now. This is what I ended up trimming off of the them--



It turns out that if you put the Civic rad in the lower mount on the passenger side it fits perfectly. b





Then all I had to do was move my driver side upper rad support over by drilling one hole and mounting it as shown here--



/\/\Also note the foam strip. Once I put that on the back side of the rad support, everything fit nice and snug. You should able to get a small roll of it from any hardware store.

It also required some spacers so I used longer 10mm bolts and put some nuts inbetween to space it just right--



The fan I got fit just perfectly--



Then fill the coolant and follow proper bleeding procedures and enjoy.

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Hope that helps someone....


Modified by Hawkze_2.3 at 12:39 PM 3/23/2008
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Old Mar 23, 2005 | 03:19 PM
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on this one. how much of a weight reduction did this give ya?

btw, that a custom intake?
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Old Mar 23, 2005 | 03:22 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by yOnKiNaToR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> on this one. how much of a weight reduction did this give ya?

btw, that a custom intake?</TD></TR></TABLE>

My f'ing scale is broken, but the aluminum rad feels like holding a feather compared to the stock one. The intake is an ebay pipe with an Apexi filter and Hose Techniques couplers.
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Old Mar 23, 2005 | 03:43 PM
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pretty sweet
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Old Mar 23, 2005 | 03:55 PM
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Less weight and it shifts the weight to the passenger side too.

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Old Mar 23, 2005 | 04:08 PM
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i thought the civic del sol vtec radiator was the one witht he hoses that were the same size as the stock prelude hoses?? maybe im just dreaming?

can anyone confirm or deny, hawk was this a generic civic radiator or a civic del sol one?
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Old Mar 23, 2005 | 04:18 PM
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Looks nice - are the ricer hoses mandatory?
Also, does this radiator have the AT fittings at the bottom?
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Old Mar 23, 2005 | 04:25 PM
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Does it hold the same amount of coolant as the stock radiator?
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Old Mar 23, 2005 | 04:52 PM
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Hey man, is it possible that you could've used one of the radiator fans from the stock one?
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Old Mar 23, 2005 | 04:59 PM
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hmm nice write up.. i was going to run a civic radiator with my turbo setup, but didnt feel like doin that much work so i just stayed with my stock one and put two smaller pusher fans infront of it.
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Old Mar 23, 2005 | 05:28 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by matty c &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Does it hold the same amount of coolant as the stock radiator?</TD></TR></TABLE>

I highly doubt that it does. It was designed for a 1.6L engine, but i could be wrong.


<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by maxvtec7500 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Hey man, is it possible that you could've used one of the radiator fans from the stock one?</TD></TR></TABLE>

I think he did, notice the solo fan sitting next to the stock radiator.

On second thought, the fans look diff, my B.
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Old Mar 23, 2005 | 05:47 PM
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Glad you guys like it!

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by prelittlelude &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i thought the civic del sol vtec radiator was the one witht he hoses that were the same size as the stock prelude hoses?? maybe im just dreaming?

can anyone confirm or deny, hawk was this a generic civic radiator or a civic del sol one?</TD></TR></TABLE>

StreetImports lists it as a 92-00 Civic radiator, so that's really all that I know for sure.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Jagan'92 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Looks nice - are the ricer hoses mandatory?
Also, does this radiator have the AT fittings at the bottom?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Ricer hoses are only mandatory if you want to be a ricer. No, it doesn't have AT fittings....

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mattyc &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Does it hold the same amount of coolant as the stock radiator?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yes, if not more. This is a little wider than half of the stock one and twice as thick. I emptied the coolant into a bucket and put it all back in plus more.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by maxvtec7500 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Hey man, is it possible that you could've used one of the radiator fans from the stock one?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yes, but it would be more difficult than this one to install, as these fans have a universal mounting system. Plus it's not that expensive and it flows much more than stock.
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Old Mar 23, 2005 | 06:00 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by flip1199 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">hmm nice write up.. i was going to run a civic radiator with my turbo setup, but didnt feel like doin that much work so i just stayed with my stock one and put two smaller pusher fans infront of it.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yeah, gotta make room for the manifold you sold me.
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Old Mar 24, 2005 | 04:06 AM
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How would this work in a boosted application with A/C? I want to upgrade my manifold to something...well...anything away from my current logstyle and this may require relocating the wastegate towards the front of the car. My main concern is keeping a/c. anyway, overheating is my main concern.
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Old Mar 24, 2005 | 06:23 AM
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wow... you've done so much stripping of weight.... how much does it weigh now? but most important of all what is the handling like compared to stock... if you remember that is..
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Old Mar 24, 2005 | 06:34 AM
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That's excellent . . . . . looks real nice, and it sure does give you a lot of space to play with up there.
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Old Mar 24, 2005 | 07:52 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ludelvr &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> overheating is my main concern.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I plan to boost this car so I'm concerned about it also, but I've seen many boosted H22s in hatches and such that still run the stock Civic rad without problems. I think you would be safe.

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It handles much better then stock! After I put these coilovers on I took my girlfriend out for a test drive. She never says anything about stuff I do in the car or anything, and I cut a corner really fast without braking and it stuck the road with no roll or anything and she goes "Daaammmn!!".

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Daemione &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">That's excellent . . . . . looks real nice, and it sure does give you a lot of space to play with up there.</TD></TR></TABLE>

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Old Mar 24, 2005 | 08:42 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Hawkze_2.3 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
StreetImports lists it as a 92-00 Civic radiator, so that's really all that I know for sure.
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for some reason i thought that the civic del sol vtec had the bigger hose openings, hmmm... so you ende dup clamping the blue hoses over the smaller civic hose?
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Old Mar 24, 2005 | 08:58 AM
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good write up ... i have a question: is the rad. siting on only one support?
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Old Mar 24, 2005 | 09:00 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Hawkze_2.3 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
It handles much better then stock! After I put these coilovers on I took my girlfriend out for a test drive. She never says anything about stuff I do in the car or anything, and I cut a corner really fast without braking and it stuck the road with no roll or anything and she goes "Daaammmn!!".
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And by these coilovers.. do you mean the D2's?
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Old Mar 24, 2005 | 09:08 AM
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This is ******* awesome, good job. I was thinking about doing the exact same thing to shave some weight off the nose of the car. Can you get someone with a scale to weigh the stock radiator? I am really really interested in knowing how much it weighs.
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Old Mar 24, 2005 | 11:02 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SUB-0 H23 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">good write up ... i have a question: is the rad. siting on only one support?</TD></TR></TABLE>
i was wondering the same thing.
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Old Mar 24, 2005 | 11:07 AM
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Nice.

Keep it up, I'll be able to flip your Prelude over like civics.
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Old Mar 24, 2005 | 11:09 AM
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thats not fair. you have awd.
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Old Mar 24, 2005 | 11:12 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by @ries &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">thats not fair. you have awd. </TD></TR></TABLE>

awd sucks from a roll, everyone knows that. plus your have a bad *** 4th gen.

wanna trade?
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