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OMNI POWER CAMBER KIT HITTING SHOCK TOWER!!!!!!!!!

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Old Mar 22, 2005 | 05:10 AM
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So here is my problem. I got an omni power camber kit back late last summer. Seemed to be working fine and everything, until I started to notice a hitting sound coming from my passenger wheel well. After popping the hood and looking around I noticed a lot of stress on the shock tower as well as huge dents from the adjusting nuts smacking into the shock tower. In one place it’s so bad there is a hole punched thru. Right now my car is as high as it will go since I live in Michigan and my car is in “winter mode” still. I don’t know if when I lower it and adjust the camber if it will stop doing that or not.

What should I do? Has anyone ever had this problem before?




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Old Mar 22, 2005 | 05:38 AM
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I would put the stock upper control arm back on and get the toe put in spec. I've heard of people riding with close to 3 degrees of negative camber and still get good wear on tires because the toe is kept in spec.

I had a Skunk2 camber kit that was $hit

My bro's camber kit on his Accord squeeks.

Camber kit's get a from me. The washer trick for the rear however
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Old Mar 22, 2005 | 06:04 AM
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yeah, i'm rocking the washers in the back and that was an awesome DIY.

So the stock arms should be good. In the summer I'm no more than 2" dropped. And i know that its the toe that effects tire ware and not the camber.

What can i do about the damage to the shock tower?
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Old Mar 22, 2005 | 07:19 AM
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my brother has sportlines 1.8 in drop, he tought that there were kits on it and there wernt, now he has perfet outer tire wear and steal belts showing on all of his inside tires. this is on a 99si
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Old Mar 22, 2005 | 07:31 AM
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get a alignment and have them check the to and caster and stufffff
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Old Mar 22, 2005 | 07:49 AM
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This is amazing. Your car is not lowered much and the omni arm still hits your frame.

My car is lowered alot in the front where the fender tucks the tire. Both of my omni arms already punched 2 holes on each side.
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Old Mar 22, 2005 | 07:59 AM
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this is getting interesting...... any one else have this problem?
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Old Mar 22, 2005 | 08:01 AM
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I thought this only happened when a car is lowered too much. I guess not.
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Old Mar 22, 2005 | 08:10 AM
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my car is as high as my ground controls will allow. I really don't think this damage was done before i raised it this winter since they were only on for a couple months, if that, before i raised it
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Old Mar 22, 2005 | 08:11 AM
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i never liked camber kits. same thing happened to me before but i had a different brand of camber kits. like someone sed earlier, just ditch the camber kits and get your toe angle in spec.
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Old Mar 22, 2005 | 08:12 AM
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Great. Im slammed on Ground Controls. I just picked up Skunk2 front camber kit. I hope I dont run into these issues.
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Old Mar 22, 2005 | 08:18 AM
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Ingalls , lowered 2" never had a problem.
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Old Mar 22, 2005 | 08:25 AM
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Never had a problem with the Skunk2 camber kit in front with 2.25" drop. Just bought a "new version" Skunk2 set for my newest hatch.

I don't know what planet some of you guys are from but driving around with your wheels canted in at the top DOES cause tire wear. I guess all it took was one person to mistakenly say "camber doesn't cause tire wear, only toe does" and now everybody goes around saying it. Sorry, that's just wrong. No way to argue around it.
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Old Mar 22, 2005 | 08:33 AM
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ask anyone at any alignment shop and they will tell you that uneven tired wear is the result of incorrect toe

never the less, thats not what this thred is about. we don't need an internet debate on tire ware.


Bump for anyone else that is having this problem with their Omni's or Skunk2s
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Old Mar 22, 2005 | 08:33 AM
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Picked up a the new Skunk2 front camber kit ... hope everything runs well for my Ground Control


As smashback said, camber def does cause premature tire wear!!!


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Old Mar 22, 2005 | 09:07 AM
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The same is happening to me. I found two little lumps on each of the shock tower. It hasnt punched through it yet.

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Old Mar 22, 2005 | 09:29 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Smashback &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">...don't know what planet some of you guys are from but driving around with your wheels canted in at the top DOES cause tire wear. I guess all it took was one person to mistakenly say "camber doesn't cause tire wear, only toe does" and now everybody goes around saying it. Sorry, that's just wrong. No way to argue around it.</TD></TR></TABLE>

This statment would be true "IF" we only drove our cars in a straight line, and turned corners like ol' grandma does. The fact is that Hondas are pretty well suited as "G" machines, and love to hit the turns. If you drove your car around with zero degrees of camber, your gonna find that the outside of your tires will wear faster than the inside (as long as toe is zero too). Thus, we add negative camber to even the tire wear out...

PS: I feel that lengthening your UCAs (for camber correction) will mess up your bump steer curve too. This is why Honda's don't have adjustable camber...
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Old Mar 22, 2005 | 09:34 AM
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If you lower the car and run soft rates at all... you'll smack the skunk2 or omni kit. You'd probably even hit the oem arms eventually.

Lowering the car comes with a penalty... i run nasty stiff springs... so i have had 0 issues being quite low... but then again... its for the track.
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Old Mar 22, 2005 | 10:21 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 94eg! &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

This statment would be true "IF" we only drove our cars in a straight line, and turned corners like ol' grandma does. The fact is that Hondas are pretty well suited as "G" machines, and love to hit the turns. If you drove your car around with zero degrees of camber, your gonna find that the outside of your tires will wear faster than the inside (as long as toe is zero too). Thus, we add negative camber to even the tire wear out...</TD></TR></TABLE>

I don't know about you, but I drive in a straight line 95% of the time I'm on the road. Since my camber kit, my treadwear is significantly lower. Helps with traction (in a straight line) too. But if I drove around in circles all day, I would completely agree.
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Old Mar 22, 2005 | 12:22 PM
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come on now..... this thred isn't about what causes more tired wear.

I need help with my problem and what i should do about it
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Old Mar 22, 2005 | 12:26 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JDMhatchback20 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">come on now..... this thred isn't about what causes more tired wear.

I need help with my problem and what i should do about it</TD></TR></TABLE>

Sorry, we are notorious for getting off topic on this site, my bad. If you want to run a camber kit, check out ingalls. It's a completely different design. Other than that, adjust the ride height of your car, or scrap the camber kit all together. Negative camber does help on the turns.
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Old Mar 22, 2005 | 12:36 PM
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My advice would be just putting back the stock A arms and taking your car to a good alignment shop.

My friend has the same car as me (em1 coupe) and he's lowered on H&R race springs. No camber kit too. His chassis is probably a few inches off the ground. His shock towers are fine also. No sign of damage.
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Old Mar 22, 2005 | 12:53 PM
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OEM!!!
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Old Mar 22, 2005 | 09:00 PM
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here is an e-mail i got back from omni power today...........


"The only thing that would cause the camber kit to hit the shock tower is too much susp. travel, i.e. blown shock, bad springs, or both."


Now I have good shocks and good spring (ground control/eibach springs with Tokico Illumina 5-ways set on 3 in the front), so that should be the problem. So if what they are telling me is true, what else can I do to fix that and keep the actual camber kit?
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Old Mar 23, 2005 | 03:53 AM
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try stiff'n up the front mort .Just try it on 5 and see if it still does it
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