AEBS intake manifold vs. skunk 2: Pics!
AEBS has been given somewhat of a bad rep because of 1 photo being posted on h-t a long time ago. Today we took some pics of a AEBS and a Skunk 2 and u can decide which is nicer.
I'm am just going to say I'm glad I went with the AEBS. $140 shipped vs like $280 or whatever for the skunk.
Also wanna add thanks to DDD for the photos.
First pic is the skunk 2

Second pic is the AEBS. These photos aren't the best angles, but its much smoother where the runners and ports come together.

heres both.

Modified by Used2beAb16 at 10:38 PM 3/18/2005
I'm am just going to say I'm glad I went with the AEBS. $140 shipped vs like $280 or whatever for the skunk.
Also wanna add thanks to DDD for the photos.
First pic is the skunk 2

Second pic is the AEBS. These photos aren't the best angles, but its much smoother where the runners and ports come together.

heres both.

Modified by Used2beAb16 at 10:38 PM 3/18/2005
Good stuff. I read all the post about how shitty the Aebs looked, but when I received mine (in polished) it looked great inside and out (other than the fact the bottom side wasn't polished)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sk8rmike »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">does the AEBS have to be tapped for the vacuum ports for the fpr/brake booster/etc or what?</TD></TR></TABLE>
No, they are all on the backside
No, they are all on the backside
i use mine on a boosted application and i love it, everyone always asks "what manifold is that" and im like AEBS, and they are like "huh"?
but it seems to work well, dont havemuch to compare it to, but i liked it had all the vacuum ports in one location, and they were out of the way
but it seems to work well, dont havemuch to compare it to, but i liked it had all the vacuum ports in one location, and they were out of the way
I personally dont like the top of the aebs manifold. And I have dont have problems with my skunk 2 manifold. Also the casting Alum. dosent look as fine of a grain on the AEBS as the skunk 2.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by cjohnson_2 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I personally dont like the top of the aebs manifold. And I have dont have problems with my skunk 2 manifold. Also the casting Alum. dosent look as fine of a grain on the AEBS as the skunk 2.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Most people here dont care about which looks prettier on the outside. Its the inside that most people were bothered about on the AEBS but as u can see it looks as nice or nicer (def aligned better.)
Most people here dont care about which looks prettier on the outside. Its the inside that most people were bothered about on the AEBS but as u can see it looks as nice or nicer (def aligned better.)
i posted that old aebs pic. mine was shitty. looks like whoever was casting them actually learned a little in how to get a better cast....

maybe i should buy a new one and throw this on ebay
maybe i should buy a new one and throw this on ebay
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mrbsponge »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> everyone always asks "what manifold is that" and im like AEBS, and they are like "huh"?
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i get the same thing out here. I have ordered about 10 manifolds in thepast year, i think the EARLY batches all had casting flaws , cause everyone i have seen lately has been perfect an much better.
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i get the same thing out here. I have ordered about 10 manifolds in thepast year, i think the EARLY batches all had casting flaws , cause everyone i have seen lately has been perfect an much better.
I think the AEBS runner inlets are shapped better than the skunks but i did not like that the throttle body opening was cast w/ no machine work. It was not a perfect round opening, close but not perfect. The S2 was machined perfect. But if you are putting on a large TB you have to match port it anyway so it realy does not matter.
Ill post a pic of another one soon. Another friend is getting one, it should be here on monday.
Ill post a pic of another one soon. Another friend is getting one, it should be here on monday.
I remember the older threads, everyone was talking trash about AEBS' casting, but the don't have a foundry, and don't produce the manifold. It's actually made by Professional Products, who changed the process a little bit to clean it up. Looks much better now on the inside.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DDD »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I think the AEBS runner inlets are shapped better than the skunks but i did not like that the throttle body opening was cast w/ no machine work. It was not a perfect round opening, close but not perfect. The S2 was machined perfect. But if you are putting on a large TB you have to match port it anyway so it realy does not matter.
Ill post a pic of another one soon. Another friend is getting one, it should be here on monday.</TD></TR></TABLE>
After installing the 65mm Maxbore tb onto the 65mm inlet of the Manifold, it was a good fit and alignment. The seam weld stuck out a tad, but I cleaned that up with the die grinder.
The only thing that really needed bored out was the tb gasket. I had to take 2 or 3 mm off of it, and it all lined up nice.
Ill post a pic of another one soon. Another friend is getting one, it should be here on monday.</TD></TR></TABLE>
After installing the 65mm Maxbore tb onto the 65mm inlet of the Manifold, it was a good fit and alignment. The seam weld stuck out a tad, but I cleaned that up with the die grinder.
The only thing that really needed bored out was the tb gasket. I had to take 2 or 3 mm off of it, and it all lined up nice.
From an asthetic stand point, the Skunk2 seams to pay much more attention to details. The Skunk has what appears to be a machined TB bore on the inlet as well as the inlet and mounting holes are all chamfered. The castings appear much more refined on the Skunk. Nevertheless, they are both different IM's that probably yield different outputs and flow characteristics. Some back to back testing would be nice to yield the impact these IM' have on the B-series. I suspect will will probably yield more top end while the other probably yields more bottom end as is the trade-off with most "breathing/VE" mods.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BryanPendleton »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">From an asthetic stand point, the Skunk2 seams to pay much more attention to details. The Skunk has what appears to be a machined TB bore on the inlet as well as the inlet and mounting holes are all chamfered. The castings appear much more refined on the Skunk. Nevertheless, they are both different IM's that probably yield different outputs and flow characteristics. Some back to back testing would be nice to yield the impact these IM' have on the B-series. I suspect will will probably yield more top end while the other probably yields more bottom end as is the trade-off with most "breathing/VE" mods.
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Yes, the skunk has a machined inlet at the tb. The AEBS does not. As i posted above, the aebs was slightly out of round just by the seam. ( u can see in top of pic) and I had to clean that up. I just smoothed out the seem, and polished up the tb inlet afterwards.
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Yes, the skunk has a machined inlet at the tb. The AEBS does not. As i posted above, the aebs was slightly out of round just by the seam. ( u can see in top of pic) and I had to clean that up. I just smoothed out the seem, and polished up the tb inlet afterwards.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DDD »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Here's the pic of brewer15650's AEBS manifold that he got in this evening. Looks like their pretty consistent with there casting now.</TD></TR></TABLE>
yep, that looks pretty much like a pic of mine. If anything the seam on the tb inlet is smoother on that one. I had to clean mine up as posted above.
Looks like they are doing something better these days!
Here's the pic of brewer15650's AEBS manifold that he got in this evening. Looks like their pretty consistent with there casting now.</TD></TR></TABLE>
yep, that looks pretty much like a pic of mine. If anything the seam on the tb inlet is smoother on that one. I had to clean mine up as posted above.
Looks like they are doing something better these days!
I just mounted mine to the motor this morning. Has anyone else ever had a problem with it rubbing the alternator bracket? I put it on the grinding wheel and shved maybe 1/8" off and it fit perfect.
Also, $137 shipped is a good deal, I paid $175 shipped in polished
Also, $137 shipped is a good deal, I paid $175 shipped in polished
I like this thread, but what about perofrmance on these IMs? Which one would get the best performance Skunk2 or aebs? I'm looking to get one soon, and i want to know which one would get me good performance. Also looking to put a bigger throttle body, so need a manifod that can withstand that as well.
Dave did you get yours from 909 racing on ebay?? I think thats where i got mine from for 137 or 138.
Autoworks, I didnt have any problems rubbing the alternator bracket, atleast not that i know of, I had to pull it back off because of a coolant leak so im gonna check the clearance when i put it back on.
Autoworks, I didnt have any problems rubbing the alternator bracket, atleast not that i know of, I had to pull it back off because of a coolant leak so im gonna check the clearance when i put it back on.



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