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Old Mar 11, 2005 | 08:51 PM
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I am ordering my ENDYN Breather Kit this week for my LS/VTEC....

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EVERYTHING is included, but I was wondering if anyone knew where I could find the Proper Plug to install on my block where the original PCV Box goes???

Located HERE in this photo if you see the TWO breather Fittings that are included in the kit... The one on the Right (That's the Flywheel side) underneathe is the Hole where the PCV box goes...


Where can I get that Plug???

Thanks in Advanced....
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Old Mar 11, 2005 | 08:58 PM
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kit comes with it
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Old Mar 11, 2005 | 09:00 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by kgibson16 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">kit comes with it</TD></TR></TABLE>

I don't see it.....

If you are referring to the Black Rubber Grommet sitting at the Top Rightof hte Catchcan, then you are looking at teh Top grommet of the Catchcan....
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Old Mar 11, 2005 | 09:14 PM
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The breather fittings come from a H22 prelude, they are less than $6 each. I believe they are #2 on this part diagram.



You can pick up that brass plug from any auto parts store, they are used primarily in cast iron American blocks.

You can pick up the breather at SUmmit Racing for $70, it's a p/n MOR-85470



Get your hose clamps and tubing from the auto parts store and you've saved yourself $60.
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Old Mar 11, 2005 | 09:19 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SMSP &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Get your hose clamps and tubing from the auto parts store and you've saved yourself $60.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Thanks David... BTW, you'll be hearing from me soon about your 4-1 B Series Deck Plate Header...

PM me sometime on Rocket Forumns... Same Handle...

BTW, what should I be asking for when I go into the parts store for that Plug??? I don't feel like bringing my block along for the ride to make sure they know what it is I am looking for....

Any suggestions on getting it Secured on?? I guess welding it is my only option seeing as how there are NO threads....
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Old Mar 11, 2005 | 09:25 PM
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This one looks like it only has 1 inlet and a plug at the bottom (which I am sure I can find the 90 degree at Home Depot) and the top section isn't included either
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Old Mar 11, 2005 | 09:27 PM
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That old deck plate 4-1 was sold.

It's just a brass coolant plug.

Make sure you get an accurate ID measurement of the hole.

These press in, that's it. No need to worry. Worried? What pressure is your coolant system? What's the area of the hole? P x A= F, F will be small.
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Old Mar 11, 2005 | 09:30 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SMSP &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">That old deck plate 4-1 was sold.

It's just a brass coolant plug.

Make sure you get an accurate ID measurement of the hole.

These press in, that's it. No need to worry. Worried? What pressure is your coolant system? What's the area of the hole? P x A= F, F will be small. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Well, it's not a Coolant system line... It's a Crankcase Ventilation system that relieves the Crankcase... So... I guess it really wouldn't have THAT much pressure....
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Old Mar 11, 2005 | 09:52 PM
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When you go to press it in, you will realize that it is NOT going to come out on it's own. Get a socket and a hammer and some hondabond, line it up square and just taaaaaap it in.
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Old Mar 11, 2005 | 10:02 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by MugenB16A2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
EVERYTHING is included, but I was wondering if anyone knew where I could find the Proper Plug to install on my block where the original PCV Box goes??? </TD></TR></TABLE>
Z10 Motorsports has a billet aluminum plugs that plugs rite up with two sealing rings.
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Old Aug 3, 2005 | 09:37 PM
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with this kit do u still need a catch can or is this it?
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Old Aug 4, 2005 | 05:55 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SMSP &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The breather fittings come from a H22 prelude, they are less than $6 each. I believe they are #2 on this part diagram.



You can pick up that brass plug from any auto parts store, they are used primarily in cast iron American blocks.

You can pick up the breather at SUmmit Racing for $70, it's a p/n MOR-85470



Get your hose clamps and tubing from the auto parts store and you've saved yourself $60.</TD></TR></TABLE>


SMSP is correct, it is diagram #2, part #11107-PK2-003. MSRP is $7.95

He's also right about making your own and being it alot cheaper.
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Old Aug 4, 2005 | 07:08 AM
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i need to do the same thing to my LS/VTEC engine really soon. i have a B18b block and it does not come with a black box PCV system. the PCV is mounted onto the valve cover. the hole u r talking about getting plugged up is already plugged in my block. So all i would need to do is unscrew those two Allen head screws on the back of my block and install the two fittings?

Now this is where im lost, how do u run the rubber hoses? i see three fittings on the catch can. the two on the top, where do those connect too? and the fitting on the bottom of the catch can, where does it go? On the intake manifold there is a fitting for where the stock PCV was attached too, does a hose run from there to the catch can?


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Old Aug 4, 2005 | 10:39 AM
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okay, so just checked out the ENDYN website, are these two cans the same thing? one doesnt have a filter on it?

This one doesnt have a filter on the top of it. i *think* that this one has the filter removed and it's running a PCV valve on the top instead


and this one which is running through the Valvecover with the filter attached



If they r the same thing, will i be good just running the settup like the first pic on my LS/VTEC?
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Old Aug 4, 2005 | 12:01 PM
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forgot about the part# for the washer, #12207-634-300
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Old Aug 4, 2005 | 01:48 PM
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why do you have two of them installed?
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Old Aug 4, 2005 | 07:28 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Hype Vtec &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">why do you have two of them installed?</TD></TR></TABLE>

lol, thats not my motor, i got that from the endyn website. i read some more and i was able to answer my own questions. gonna get the endyn kit as soon as money rolls in
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Old Aug 5, 2005 | 12:48 AM
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Yea the way that last pic is, doesn't make sense... two kits? And the vaccum from the manifold is going to the intake pipe...???

Edit: nevermind, im retarted. Still doesn't make sense why there are two...
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Old Aug 6, 2005 | 11:08 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JDM_Ej &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yea the way that last pic is, doesn't make sense... two kits? And the vaccum from the manifold is going to the intake pipe...???

Edit: nevermind, im retarted. Still doesn't make sense why there are two...</TD></TR></TABLE>

the kit comes with both filter and PCV. You can change it to what ever you perfer. The PCV is for emission reasons and the filter is for "off road use". Make sense ?
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Old Aug 6, 2005 | 11:45 PM
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Look closer at the Endyyn pic.

1) He has the valve cover hooked up to the intake tube as honda intended it hence the slash cut wich creates a reversion and feeds fresh air into the crank case. Albeit very little air.

2) The hose that runs from the top of the catch can mounter rear right goes to the intake manifold. This is so the crank case pressure is vaccumed out of the back of the block from the two fittings installed. If you just ran the lines from the back of the block to a catch can you wouldn't have Positive Cranks Case Ventilation. You would just have crank case ventilation. If you don;t use the vaccum from the intake manifold, use it from your exhaust or from a vaccum pump. The filter material in the catch can will seperate the oil from the air as it is vaccued into the intake manifold.

Hope that all made sense .
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Old Aug 7, 2005 | 07:14 AM
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what doean't make sense is you are putting crankcase oil and vapour back into the intake manifold. without a catch can between. and i don't see a one way valve.
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Old Aug 7, 2005 | 08:15 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by asubennett &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Look closer at the Endyyn pic.

2) The hose that runs from the top of the catch can mounter rear right goes to the intake manifold. This is so the crank case pressure is vaccumed out of the back of the block from the two fittings installed. If you just ran the lines from the back of the block to a catch can you wouldn't have Positive Cranks Case Ventilation. You would just have crank case ventilation. If you don;t use the vaccum from the intake manifold, use it from your exhaust or from a vaccum pump. The filter material in the catch can will seperate the oil from the air as it is vaccued into the intake manifold.

Hope that all made sense .</TD></TR></TABLE>

Ok it kinda makes sense to me. Question though, So you want the hose on top of the can going to the manifold instead of just having a filter? Is that right? And what exactly is the differance of positive crank ventilation and just crank case ventilation? Hope I make sense, im jsut a little confused. Reason being is becuase from what ive seen people just run the filter on top and nothing going to the manifold.
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Old Aug 7, 2005 | 04:34 PM
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It is fine to have a filter on top. You will still get some ventilation. However if you want positive crank case ventillation you want to draw the crank case pressure out via vaccum. This can be done with a vaccum source from the engine I.E. The intake manifold or you can use a vaccum pump.
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Old Aug 7, 2005 | 04:40 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SMSP &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The breather fittings come from a H22 prelude, they are less than $6 each. I believe they are #2 on this part diagram.



You can pick up that brass plug from any auto parts store, they are used primarily in cast iron American blocks.

You can pick up the breather at SUmmit Racing for $70, it's a p/n MOR-85470



Get your hose clamps and tubing from the auto parts store and you've saved yourself $60.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Thats some good info...but you should also mention that unless the 2 fitting are modded, the can is gonna accumulate oil rather quickly

Difference between endyn fitting and OEM honda fitting:
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Old Aug 7, 2005 | 05:20 PM
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Thats just a freeze plug.Any auto parts store in the world has em .Yes the WORLD LOL
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