i'm putting together a ls vtec setup and i need a little help here are the specs
11.3 compression wiseco pistons
eagle rods
acl bearings
arp rod bolts and head studs
block girddle from golden eagle
b16a2 head
skunk 2 valve springs and retainers maybe
skunk2 stg 1 or buddy club spec 3+cams
somebodies cam gears not sure yet
itr intake manifold and throttle body
dc sport jdm type r header 4-2-1

Questions:
1) which cam is better for a daily driver trying to make 200whp?
2)should i port and polish head or get a 3 angle valve job... is either neccesary for my goal?
3) if i get an obd2 to 0bd1 conversion and tune with hondata can i pass emissions?

let me know if there is any thing i left out for relaibility purposes or for hp gains

 

u should pass emissions if its tuned right.... the Bc 3's would do a better job to get u to 200.... and would work well on ur comp ratio.... and u don't have to pnp the head but everything helps........

 

good morning bump for some help

 

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no help from anybody out there....there are to many people running ls vtec out there for there to be no answers to my questions.

 

bump i guess the previous answer is totally correct and there are no more opinions or suggestions out there.....dissapointing

 

BC3+ is a better designed cam for reaching above 200hp levels.

Port and polish it later only if you are unhappy with the results of the stock head.

Hondata can always be tuned to pass emissions. That's one of it's strong points.
For example running huge injectors without running rich.

 

thanx for the reponse, that does sound like a good idea are valve springs and retainer really needed for those cams

 

i would get a more agressive cam if you are going to run a valvetrain

i would stay away from skunk2 valvetrain as there is no reason to get a valvetrain that stiff

 

so would itr valvesprings and retainer work with buddy club spec 3+, Rocket m22, or skunk2 stg 1

 

if ur gonna get BC3's i would go for a skunk2 valvetrain..... itr will work but not for the long term,,, they will be ok for the stage 1 skunk2's .... not sure about the m22's,,. but if u wanna run as big a cam as the bc3's get a good valvetrain...

 

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you're an idiot.

 

so who's write here fellas I would think upgrading the valve train would only help with the longevity on a cam like the Buddy Club spec 3+. So should i go with itr valve springs and retainers or skunk2's with the Buddy club cams or what. Thanx for the help


Modified by hondaluva at 8:56 AM 3/2/2005

 

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call me an idiot when u brake a valve spring on that big a cam ,,,, moron .. its as agressive as a stage 2 skunk....... u may get avay with itr but i would just be safe and build it right the first time and save the posibility of headake's down the road..i guess skunk and even buddy club are idiots when they tell u that u "NEED" to upgrade ur valvetain

 

he means your an idiot when refering the man to skunk valve springs. Buy something like rocket gen2 vlave springs and retainers. They have a much "lighter" spring seat pressure to avoid grinding those cams, yet have never been reported of breaking or binding. You can get both shipped for like $250 from every rocket vendor and with the gen2 retainers you have a .030" higher install height to help prevent spring binding. Can't beat the price or the quality

 

so the RM valve spring and retainers are stronger than ITR's but softer than Skunk2's.............so do we have a winner with the RM or what ??????

what about port flows valve spring and any retainers......i think omni used portflows with buddy club spec3 + cams when he tested them and he list no complaints.....any thoughts


Modified by hondaluva at 7:51 PM 3/3/2005

 

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a lil help please

 

bump ttt

 

rocket valvetrain with m22 been know to put poeple in the 200s

 

buddy club spec III+ does not require an upgraded valvetrain, it only requires itr valvesprings.... whoever said if your running that big of a cam you need upgraded springs..(WRONG) you can run it just fine with itr valvetrain, it would be nice to upgrade but not necessary,... the BC cams have a high duration however the lift isnt very high .

 

there is no reason not to buy aftermarket valvetrain.

it should be done.


Modified by envision2teg at 12:07 PM 3/7/2005

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by envision2teg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">there is no reason not to buy aftermarket valvetrain.

it should be done.


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agreed, however if on a budget and only reving as high as 78-8k he would be fine. Always better safe then sorry , I just dont want him to think it is a MUST do , when the dual valve springs from an itr willbe just fine

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by prada_2o0o &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">agreed, however if on a budget and only reving as high as 78-8k he would be fine. Always better safe then sorry , I just dont want him to think it is a MUST do , when the dual valve springs from an itr willbe just fine</TD></TR></TABLE>

yea, but i still disagree with you a little bit. if your on a budget get the valvetrain first, then get the cams when you can. cheaper to do it in that order too.

the whole... 'better to do it right the first time than do it twice'