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Old Feb 5, 2005 | 08:00 AM
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Did search, found nothing. Can this be done? I have been offered a built b20 block with stock internals, fully balanced and f20c pistons. 12.6 cr. And if it can be done will it last? I am not gonna boost.
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Old Feb 5, 2005 | 08:03 AM
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Interesting.....I will have to check on that!
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Old Feb 5, 2005 | 08:13 AM
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Thanks. Bump!
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Old Feb 5, 2005 | 08:37 AM
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bump, cuz I wanna know too.
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Old Feb 5, 2005 | 09:45 AM
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2005 Honda S2000 Specifications
Type 16-Valve DOHC VTEC Inline-4 (F22C1)
Bore & Stroke (mm/in.) 87.0 x 90.7/3.43 x 3.57
Compression Ratio 11.1:1


1999 S2000(F20C)
Engine Type
DOHC VTEC in-line 4-cylinder aluminum alloy cylinder head, FRM (Fiber Reinforced Metal) cylinder liners, Lightweight forged-aluminum pistons and heat-treated (carburized), forged-steel connecting rods, high-efficiency oil cooler
Broke & Stroke 87x84(mm)
Compression ratio 11:1





The only way I see these pistons fitting into a B20 is if the B20 is sleeved to 87mm instead of the stock 84mm.

Now F20C Pistons in an H22 or H23, now maybe that would work.
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Old Feb 5, 2005 | 11:10 AM
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You go to it before me hybrid, the s2k is a really weird bore and stroke, i guess if you were crazy enough to sleeve a b20 to 87mm, then you might be able to use those pistons.
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Old Feb 5, 2005 | 04:21 PM
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If I remember darton offers an all motor sleeve in 87mm.They offset the bore spacing slightly and don't cut the bottoms for o-rings.A little extreme for me.
Glenn
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Old Feb 5, 2005 | 04:29 PM
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87mm sounds extreme to me in a B20, but H22 and H23's come stock 87mm bore, so this may be an option for our H-series guys.
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Old Feb 5, 2005 | 08:19 PM
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What about s2k pistons in a k24. Has anyone tryed that? There both 87mm if im not mistaken.
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Old Feb 6, 2005 | 03:48 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Rusty Shackleferd &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">What about s2k pistons in a k24. Has anyone tryed that? There both 87mm if im not mistaken.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Probably possible. Especially considering that the F20 in the S2K is basically a K-series motor.
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Old Feb 6, 2005 | 08:42 AM
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i thought they were 87mm?

yeah the whole post didnt load for me sorry, but anyway an s200 crank rods and pistons would be dope in a k24 (maybe not the rods dunno if they are long enough) with a k20R head
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Old Feb 6, 2005 | 09:14 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JCushing &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i thought they were 87mm?

yeah the whole post didnt load for me sorry, but anyway an s200 crank rods and pistons would be dope in a k24 (maybe not the rods dunno if they are long enough) with a k20R head</TD></TR></TABLE>

No I would keep the long stroke for torque in the K24. The Pistons maybe an idea but K-series pistons have an unusual design.
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Old Feb 6, 2005 | 10:26 AM
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i might try the s2k pistons in a b20 during the summer if i find some 87mm sleeves for a good price.....i'll let you know if i do
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Old Feb 6, 2005 | 12:09 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by turbofienD 04 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i might try the s2k pistons in a b20 during the summer if i find some 87mm sleeves for a good price.....i'll let you know if i do</TD></TR></TABLE>

If you can find 87mm sleeves, I would stroke the motor to either 92 or 95mm too.
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Old Feb 6, 2005 | 12:20 PM
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i heard nsx-t piston will work with b20 also with stock sleeve
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Old Feb 6, 2005 | 01:55 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by NA916DragSter &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i heard nsx-t piston will work with b20 also with stock sleeve</TD></TR></TABLE>

I just checked on that. NSX Pistons are......

Manual transmission:

Bore: 93mm
Stroke: 78mm
CR: 10.2:1

Automatic Transmission:

Bore: 90mm
Stroke: 78mm
CR: 10.2:1


I check on NSX's from 1995 to the new 2005. Haven't found anything on the 1991 NSX.
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Old Feb 7, 2005 | 01:52 AM
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OK so the B20 should be bored to 87mm. What about the stroke? Whats the stock figure for B20?

AFAIK this built B20 is stock internals, only balanced. I really don't know whether to believe this engine is relly what he says it is. If so it should last right?
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Old Feb 7, 2005 | 02:26 AM
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Just emailed the guy and heres his reply -

"Hi mate
Yes the spec is true...
This block has a well balanced crank assembly, it revs smoothly to 9000
rpm.
Block guard
F20B, 85mm pistons with, modified valve pockets to suit Jun 3; Static
compression ratio 12.5:1
Does not throw white smoke & lose engine oil like a forged piston
Stock rods, (balanced assy)
CrankB20B, blueprinted bearings (balanced assy)"
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Old Feb 7, 2005 | 03:50 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Redsun &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">OK so the B20 should be bored to 87mm. What about the stroke? Whats the stock figure for B20?

AFAIK this built B20 is stock internals, only balanced. I really don't know whether to believe this engine is relly what he says it is. If so it should last right?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Stock B20

Bore: 84mm
Stroke: 89mm

If it is stock then it is already balanced from the factory!
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Old Feb 7, 2005 | 07:13 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Redsun &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Just emailed the guy and heres his reply -

"Hi mate
Yes the spec is true...
This block has a well balanced crank assembly, it revs smoothly to 9000
rpm.
Block guard
F20B, 85mm pistons with, modified valve pockets to suit Jun 3; Static
compression ratio 12.5:1
Does not throw white smoke & lose engine oil like a forged piston
Stock rods, (balanced assy)
CrankB20B, blueprinted bearings (balanced assy)"</TD></TR></TABLE>

so 85mm on stock sleeves???
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Old Feb 7, 2005 | 07:22 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Redsun &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Just emailed the guy and heres his reply -

"Hi mate
Yes the spec is true...
This block has a well balanced crank assembly, it revs smoothly to 9000
rpm.
Block guard
F20B, 85mm pistons with, modified valve pockets to suit Jun 3; Static
compression ratio 12.5:1
Does not throw white smoke & lose engine oil like a forged piston
Stock rods, (balanced assy)
CrankB20B, blueprinted bearings (balanced assy)"</TD></TR></TABLE>

Let me search into this and I will get back to you tonight when I get off work. Where is this guy located? Sounds like Australia!
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Old Feb 7, 2005 | 07:48 AM
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OK, my mistake. It's not S2k F20C pistons but F20B. Thats accord SOHC right?

Thanks for your help Hybrid_Vtec.
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Old Feb 7, 2005 | 09:25 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Redsun &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">OK, my mistake. It's not S2k F20C pistons but F20B. Thats accord SOHC right?

Thanks for your help Hybrid_Vtec. </TD></TR></TABLE>

F20 to me sounds like DOHC F20 out of the accord. I believe the SOHC accord motors were the F22 and F23. But I will look it up later.

See if you can get pics of the motor!


Modified by hybrid_vtec at 10:45 AM 2/7/2005
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Old Feb 7, 2005 | 10:27 AM
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Sent you email.
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Old Feb 7, 2005 | 12:01 PM
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if the f20 pistons fit im considering putting them in my b20 block
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