Do those Grounding kits really increase performance?
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Free up, yes</TD></TR></TABLE>
to that.
You're not going to make any more horsepoewer than you would with a stock ground system that functioned well. Most ground systems on older cars are a little corroded and not working to their full potential. Replacing them with anything frees up the little power that was "hiding" before. You can get much of the benefit by cleaning all the contacts on the stock wires and grounds.
Free up, yes</TD></TR></TABLE>
to that.You're not going to make any more horsepoewer than you would with a stock ground system that functioned well. Most ground systems on older cars are a little corroded and not working to their full potential. Replacing them with anything frees up the little power that was "hiding" before. You can get much of the benefit by cleaning all the contacts on the stock wires and grounds.
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to that.
You're not going to make any more horsepoewer than you would with a stock ground system that functioned well. Most ground systems on older cars are a little corroded and not working to their full potential. Replacing them with anything frees up the little power that was "hiding" before. You can get much of the benefit by cleaning all the contacts on the stock wires and grounds.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Well put just give them a scrubbing with a wire brush or get one for some pretty points lol
to that.You're not going to make any more horsepoewer than you would with a stock ground system that functioned well. Most ground systems on older cars are a little corroded and not working to their full potential. Replacing them with anything frees up the little power that was "hiding" before. You can get much of the benefit by cleaning all the contacts on the stock wires and grounds.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Well put just give them a scrubbing with a wire brush or get one for some pretty points lol
The stock system, in good condition, is more than good enough. Unless you have corrosion problems, the kits won't help. Just make sure your stock grounds are clean and tight and save yourself some money.
There are bound to be a few who will argue otherwise, but most of the sensors have dedicated wiring between them and the ECU anyway. I don't understand what performance "improvement" is possible by adding more ground wires.
(drdisco69 beat me to the post)
There are bound to be a few who will argue otherwise, but most of the sensors have dedicated wiring between them and the ECU anyway. I don't understand what performance "improvement" is possible by adding more ground wires.
(drdisco69 beat me to the post)
I think it would only allow the components in your electrical system to function at their full potential. I did it myself and cant say I saw an improvement but it made feel a little better about it. Dont ask me why
i made my own. when i installed them it felt like it gave me 10HP!!
JUST KIDDING!!
the only REAL difference i saw was that my cell phone wouldnt restart
charging after i start the car. like the voltage didnt drop low enough
for the charger to restart...or something...
JUST KIDDING!!
the only REAL difference i saw was that my cell phone wouldnt restart
charging after i start the car. like the voltage didnt drop low enough
for the charger to restart...or something...
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An intake and a header might not even give your that much of a gain. Why would some thicker gauge gounds do so much on a car that has a moderately efficient electrical system. - Darrell
An intake and a header might not even give your that much of a gain. Why would some thicker gauge gounds do so much on a car that has a moderately efficient electrical system. - Darrell
If you consider these things increased performance:
- smoother idle
- brighter and consistent headlights
- better sounding stereo
Then yes grounding wires do increase performance. It makes the car feel a little newer again.
Power? Maybe they scavenge a little that was lost from crusty connections...I guess it depends on how bad of shape the old ones are in.
With "Everstart" battery cables and supplies from Wal-Mart, I've made some thicker grounding for my CRX. I only replaced the original wiring with new stuff on the original mounting ponits, and I cleaned those points up with a wire brush. I like that its actually battery cables, and not speaker wires.
15" 4-gauge cable with a battery terminal (~$5)
36" 6-gague cable (~$7)
4 boxes of 1/4" ring connectors (~$5)
- smoother idle
- brighter and consistent headlights
- better sounding stereo
Then yes grounding wires do increase performance. It makes the car feel a little newer again.
Power? Maybe they scavenge a little that was lost from crusty connections...I guess it depends on how bad of shape the old ones are in.
With "Everstart" battery cables and supplies from Wal-Mart, I've made some thicker grounding for my CRX. I only replaced the original wiring with new stuff on the original mounting ponits, and I cleaned those points up with a wire brush. I like that its actually battery cables, and not speaker wires.
15" 4-gauge cable with a battery terminal (~$5)
36" 6-gague cable (~$7)
4 boxes of 1/4" ring connectors (~$5)
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Well that sounds good, cheap and simple to do but what grounds other than the engine valve cover did you redo?
I did use a scrap of an older wire for the small valve cover ground, but you can use more thick stuff as well. You'll need some heavy-duty wire cutter/pliers and a hammer helps too!
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thats how i did mine. just got some 4,6,8,10 gauge black AMP wire. and wired it like that.
i got a electric trunk poper (on sedan) so i ran a ground from the speaker bolt to the arm that holds the lid. and wired the backup lites and the solonoid to the trunk lid.
the only one thing i did n noticed was straight 0guage wire from batter negative to one dizzy bolt i had stronger spark and never missed
Ahem...

You have the wrong bolt grounded. That's why the stock ground wire splits into 2 terminals, so you can ground the head and the valve cover. Put the heavier wire on the bolt that grounds the head, and the smaller wire on the bolt to the valve cover.
You have the wrong bolt grounded. That's why the stock ground wire splits into 2 terminals, so you can ground the head and the valve cover. Put the heavier wire on the bolt that grounds the head, and the smaller wire on the bolt to the valve cover.
mm i know what your talking bout,but to put it on the bolt that goes to the head i have to remove the bolt and take the rubber crap out and fit it over and then fit the rubber grommet back on, it took me 10 minutes to do that last time and i chiped a tooth trying to bite it off (bad idea) . but what you said is true , just lazy to do it in the cold.
i upgraded all the grounds and the spark was increased and my stereo system was cleared up. the head lights work better. but i also put new wires to them do to an accident and having them pinched by the bumber. it's worth 35 bucks at the local store for wire and rings.
I dunno about performance but my auto tranny shifts smoother now, i got the volt stabilizer, kinda same as ground kit...


