Is it normal for the coilovers to be so stiff? from the reviews of other owners i thought it would be like my integra on neuspeed races but these are much stiffer on my wrx. I feel very small bumps and the coils react to them also. I also realized how i feel more bumps at very low speeds rather then high speeds. Anyone elses coilovers like that?

 

It is very common for a monotube design to act like you are saying? If you have the Sports then your all around driving is going to feel a lot stiffer than the Streets. When talking to Bob at Omni he said that even the streets are fairly stiff. Most of the stiffness comes from small bumps that you notice because the valving in the streets is still 10k/8k which does not open up on smaller bumps as much as softer valving would. So when you hit big bumps, then the streets comfort you a little more than you would think.

If anyone is skeptical about the omni's being too stiff, then do what I am going to do. I have heard nothing but good things from Bob and Dave from Omni about running 8k/6k springs with 10k/8k valving. The stiffness over small bumps is still the same because of the valving, but the bigger bumps are a lot better on your back. He said you get the best of both worlds which makes sense. It still handles pretty damn close to the original Street coilovers with the same valving as the spring rates.

But for the most part, tell everyone what kind of Omnipower coilovers you have. Then we can help you. Maybe they are preloaded wrong or not enough. Every little bit makes a difference I hear. To corner better, you need a stiff ride, but my setup will be perfect, hehe.

 

thanks for the post man, it was very helpful. I have the streets and the preload confused me as well. At first i preloaded it by getting the springs as high up as possible with the 19mm nut flush with the stud at the top, then tightening it down with all my force after adjusting the height. The result was the ride being SUPER stiff so the next day i decided to try and take out some of the preload and finally all of it. Right now i don't have much if any preload.

The 8k/6k sounds like a good idea.

 

i could be wrong but a wrx uses mcpharson suspension..and this system, having very little components, will transfer nearly 100% of the springrate to the car/road/whatever...as opposed to honda's doublewishbone system that gives an average 40% i think....so a spring rate of 600lbs will be felt/effect a subaru alot more than a honda...I'm only transfering info i got from sccaforums so i could be talking outta my ***...there's a long thread there with equations and stuff if you want to look into that

that being said, i'm running 10kg and 12kg on my accord and these are really stiff...not unbearable though

 

very interesting

 

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is your ride a lot smoother after u took out some of the preload?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sjteg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">thanks for the post man, it was very helpful. I have the streets and the preload confused me as well. At first i preloaded it by getting the springs as high up as possible with the 19mm nut flush with the stud at the top, then tightening it down with all my force after adjusting the height. The result was the ride being SUPER stiff so the next day i decided to try and take out some of the preload and finally all of it. Right now i don't have much if any preload.

The 8k/6k sounds like a good idea. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Aren't the Omni's supposed to be preloaded though? It increases the chance of bottoming out thats why I ask.. I have sports preloaded from the nut on the very last part of the top threading, it's very stiff, but couldn't possibly give me better handling response..

 

its normal,, ull get use to it

 

just curious, what spring rates does omni give for their suburu wrx kit?

 

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they're 10k/8k

 

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are you sure the omni's are monotube? for some reason i find this extremely difficult to believe...

 

yes they are

 

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forgive me if i sound rude but where did you get this information?

the reason i'm asking is i've searched everywhere short of calling omni themselves trying to find this info out and came up empty handed. not only that but i'm aware of the costs involved in manufacturing a monotube shock. the price for a set of omni coilovers is not an unreasonable price to pay for one (1) good adjustable monotube shock. there's just no way omni would be able to sell an entire set for that price if they were monotube.

 

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forgive me if i sound rude but where did you get this information?

the reason i'm asking is i've searched everywhere short of calling omni themselves trying to find this info out and came up empty handed. not only that but i'm aware of the costs involved in manufacturing a monotube shock. the price for a set of omni coilovers is not an unreasonable price to pay for one (1) good adjustable monotube shock. there's just no way omni would be able to sell an entire set for that price if they were monotube.</TD></TR></TABLE>

"46 mm Single Piston Shock Design" does this mean it's monotube? everyone does say they are monotube though...

 

i got omni street and corner balanced @ WestEnd Alignment it handles well for a street car.

 

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"46 mm Single Piston Shock Design" does this mean it's monotube? everyone does say they are monotube though... </TD></TR></TABLE>

interesting quote...this probably means that the shock is a twin-tube low-pressure gas shock, which has only one piston. mono-tube high-pressure gas shocks have two internal pistons: the main piston that's connected to the piston shaft and a floating piston that separates the high-pressure gas from the fluid.

everyone says they are monotube, but to be quite frank NTGR8D doesn't exactly have the reputation that guys like CRX Lee, RR98ITR, and a handful of others have in my book. no offense to NTGR8D. you know how the saying goes, "believe none of what you hear and half of what you see..."

 

i believe others have said they were monotube as well...pm crx lee and ask..he shock dyno'd a set so he should know...then post here lol

also if you feel like searching through all the posts about omni you can try that too

 

according to CRX Lee, they are mono-tube...i have been corrected. i'm trying to find out as much info as i can from him though.

btw, my thoughts were based on what i've read in paul haney's book "Inside Racing Technology" FWIW.

 

cool let us know what he tells you

i already own a set but would like more reviews from him lol

 

i got a 97 civic hatch and in process of almost having everything i need suspension wise. should i go with the street or sport? its my daily driver but i plan on hitting the roads a few times here and there. thanks