I am after a set of brake cooling intaked ducts to fit a 98 - oem usdm style front .

Noticed in a photo of one of the last Realtime DC Integras that they had what looked like carbon moulded ''funnels'' each side of the radiator intake.
This exactly what I am after .
I have emailed Realtime and as usual had no response.

Anyone have any idea who I could get a set from as I have no idea who does Realtimes moulding or who the Realtime cars were sold too.

 

if you check some of the circle track racing web sites, they have ducts that will work, there not nifty carrbon fiber though.

 

What would you possibly need them for other than track days and road racing?

 

J's racing might have them for you. They have them for EGs so they could have them for the teg

 

am familar with the butler style ducts, but still quite a bit of work required to get an airtight fit around the front .
Something similar to the realtime duct would make it a simple and tidy fix

 

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Isnt that why you'd want them?

RJ - who doesnt understand the question, and would like some also

 

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Who's J's racing? Website?

 

Most of the JDM Integras have brake ducts built in to the front moulding so unlikely that J's or anyone else will be able to help

No one with any contacts at Realtime? Thought that they would be getting someone to do their moulding work and they may still have the moulds.

 

use epoxy to bond the ducts to the bupmper if you need a better fit

 

why do you HAVE to have the ones that real time uses?

as i said befor check out circle track racing website and you can find um.

in fact here is some links to a few

http://www.pitstopusa.com/sear...D=547
http://www.bakerprecision.com/brkduct.htm
http://www.racerpartswholesale.com/

make some messurements and you can find something that will work for you.

 

I got mine from Pegasus. Real easy to work with.

http://www.pegasusautoracing.com

 

[QUOTE=slammed_93_hatch]why do you HAVE to have the ones that real time uses?

I would like ducts the same/similar as realtime used because;

They will fit my application without modification as I use the same nose cone and the same radiator ducting.

I will be able to remove the nose cone quickly without having to mess about with cooling hoses

they will work correctly.

It will save me time with making mould etc.

I do not care if they are Realtime or not and carbon or fibreglass is ok.

We are in the middle of our race season down here in New Zealand and things are pretty busy at the moment so anything we can purchase ready made is a bonus.

 

if you want something ready made, then you may want to check with Colletti Motorsports, although I don't know about shipping to New Zealand. Here is their ducting system. It also includes a deflector plate.

Colletti Motorsports Cooling Ducts

 

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Well I don't know about him, but so far Real Time is the only ones I see that actually direct air into the hats through the vents/veins in the rotors instead of just directing airflow somewhere more towards the shock fork then anything else. I'm sure all WCTC cars use this method, but this is the only way to do it and Real Time did it right for a FWD car and still have clearance for axle and turning. I don't NEED the ones Real Time has, but I'm copying their design for sure. See here....



edit: Changed for semantics.


Modified by Mr Hammond at 12:48 PM 12/7/2004

 

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you have an NSX?

 

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did the nsx become front wheel drive? I see an axle in there.

 

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J00 blind smartass..

RSX maybe...

 

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Well I don't know about him, but so far Real Time is the only ones I see that actually pressurize the rotors instead of just directing airflow somewhere more towards the shock fork then anything else. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Perhaps this is just a semantics argument but ducts, no matter how they are situated, will not "pressurize" air to the hats. Air flow into the rotors will be limited by the narrowest section of duct and/or the air inlet on the duct.

 

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Yeah I guess I didn't mean in the literal sense of the word. More so that air is actually directed into the hats of the rotor and through the cooling veins/vents and would be a lot more effective then simply a 2.5"-3" hose aimed somewhere at the front suspension more or less. Either way I've just often wonder why no company has really capitalized on the lack of efficient brake duct/cooling kits offered with the sub-par products I've seen available.

 

you need to consider why it looks so simple on the realtime RSX. its because its a macpherson strut suspension. theres no knuckle to get in the way of the rotor, plus that rotor is oversized making the diameter of the top hat bigger to allow more gap for air to be directed in. if only it were so easy in our double wishbone IT cars...

 

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Yeah I guess I didn't mean in the literal sense of the word. More so that air is actually directed into the hats of the rotor and through the cooling veins/vents and would be a lot more effective then simply a 2.5"-3" hose aimed somewhere at the front suspension more or less. Either way I've just often wonder why no company has really capitalized on the lack of efficient brake duct/cooling kits offered with the sub-par products I've seen available.


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Are you sure its a lot more effective? I know on my CRX, the opening available to us to get air "directly" into the hats is at best a 2"x1" crescent. Unless the rotation of the veins forces air through the air inlet, I think we'd be limiting the effectiveness of our 3" ducts to a 2" x 1" outlet. Might be more effective to blow 3" worth of air on anything you can get to in there. Just a thought and I ain't that down w/ Bernoulli and friends so I'd be happy to be wrong on this.

Now I have seen guys split off their 3" ducts into segments and if one went to the hats, that might be a good alternative provided the other two go somewhere useful. But still, nothing I am saying should be taken as "fact" its just guessin'.

 

RealTime RSX...


Unfortunetly, the DC2 has a lot of stuff in the way and no clear and easy way to make a backing plate to force air through the rotor.
http://www.sandmracing.com/m_b05_ducts.html tried to make a set, but as shown it's quite awkward to use even a 2" hose onto a backing plate.

 

Here is a little secret:

Go to Home Depot and buy some ShopVac nozzles. They work plenty good as brake ducts.

Scott

 

Wow great pics!