Need info on B16 axles.....please clarify this!
ok i know there are a bizzillion posts about which b16 axles but all of them are different and everyone says buy a 90-93 teg intermediate shaft. I dont have the money to buy another shaft so im keeping my b16 one that has SK7-7 stamped on it. Now my question is....Do I need a 86-89 integra (gsr,ls,rs????) driver side axle and a 90-91 integra (gsr,ls,rs???) axle for the passenger side? im just confused about what to order... I will be using an S1 tranny and this is going into a crx. Sorry for another cheesy axle post but I want this to be more specific than the other posts....thank you guys
or if u want new axles with lifetime warranty get 90-93 teg axles ls gs or rs and the intermediate shaft that came with the s1 tranny will work....at least mine did
90-91 integra LS non-ABS
buy both and use the intermediate shaft from the US integra too.
two reasons:
one: it will be new. one less thing to worry about
two: it comes with the drivers side axle anyway
if you insist on using that jdm intemediate shaft then you need either a custom axle specifically designed to do that, or make your own, which is what is confusing you so much. if i rememebr correctly you need to use an older inner side and a newer outter side. either way, its an unnessecary pain in the ***. plus, axles dont last forever. it will break. what will you do then, make another axle or order some over priced custom piece from some web site? or just go to autozeon for 80bucks when you need a new one.
its your choice of course, but i think you catch my drift by now.
buy both and use the intermediate shaft from the US integra too.
two reasons:
one: it will be new. one less thing to worry about
two: it comes with the drivers side axle anyway
if you insist on using that jdm intemediate shaft then you need either a custom axle specifically designed to do that, or make your own, which is what is confusing you so much. if i rememebr correctly you need to use an older inner side and a newer outter side. either way, its an unnessecary pain in the ***. plus, axles dont last forever. it will break. what will you do then, make another axle or order some over priced custom piece from some web site? or just go to autozeon for 80bucks when you need a new one.
its your choice of course, but i think you catch my drift by now.
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sorry i have a Y1, perhaps you can use the jdm intermediate shaft on the S1.
someone feel free to chime in and own me...
sorry i have a Y1, perhaps you can use the jdm intermediate shaft on the S1.
someone feel free to chime in and own me...
ist it doesnt matter if u get abs or non.....2nd u dont need new intermediate shaft..... 3rd just get 2 90-92 or 93 cant remember integra ls gs or rs axles and if 1 breaks...take it back get a new one for free...they have lifetime warranty
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ]{iwi »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i have a J1 and used the intermediate shaft that was on the motor and got new 91 teg axels and have not had any problems at all </TD></TR></TABLE>
Yes, because the J1 has a "jdm" 90-91 integra int shaft, thats why 90-91 teg axles work fine.
The y1 needs 89 teg axles and 90-91 teg inner joints.
FROM MY WEBSITE
"Be sure to match the axles to the intermediate shaft, For example, I used a integra intermediate shaft, so I use the 90-93 integra axles. If you have a SIR engine it may have the SIR intermediate shaft, you will need custom made SIR axles. Read Hasport's link for instructions. These axles can be made with 89 integra axles with the 90-91 integra inner joint.
Becarefull here, your b16a may have came from a jdm integra (mine did) so you need to know what int. shaft you have. In general, the swap with the S1 or J1 tyrannies are a jdm integra engine and will have a integra int. shaft. Also if there is a unit on the intake manifold that has hoses leading towards the intake pipe, that is another sign of the jdm integra engine. Engine importers are known to mix and match, so be careful."
Yes, because the J1 has a "jdm" 90-91 integra int shaft, thats why 90-91 teg axles work fine.
The y1 needs 89 teg axles and 90-91 teg inner joints.
FROM MY WEBSITE
"Be sure to match the axles to the intermediate shaft, For example, I used a integra intermediate shaft, so I use the 90-93 integra axles. If you have a SIR engine it may have the SIR intermediate shaft, you will need custom made SIR axles. Read Hasport's link for instructions. These axles can be made with 89 integra axles with the 90-91 integra inner joint.
Becarefull here, your b16a may have came from a jdm integra (mine did) so you need to know what int. shaft you have. In general, the swap with the S1 or J1 tyrannies are a jdm integra engine and will have a integra int. shaft. Also if there is a unit on the intake manifold that has hoses leading towards the intake pipe, that is another sign of the jdm integra engine. Engine importers are known to mix and match, so be careful."
So is the SK7-7 intermediate shaft NOT the jdm 90-93 integra? I thought the b16a engines with the S1 trannys came from a jdm DA integra??
Well heres the information I have so far... With the JDM b16 intermediate shaft the 86-89 Integra driver side axle will work fine no problems no matter what tranny. (still not sure if the inner cv joint is needed from 90-93 teg axles to the 86-89 driver axle). Next for the passenger side 86-89 teg axle with 90-93 inner cv joint for sure is needed to be used. Anyone care to correct me? Also if I go to the parts store can I order just an inner cv joint for a 90-93 axle? I thought the axles came as one peice. Thank you guys
90-91 non abs integra LS axles
Most b series intermediate shafts should work, im using a 99 gsr one. Just match the SEAL you use on the shaft to the tranny.
IE. 99 shaft, 91 Integra LS seal
91 shaft, 91 seal etc... Or it will leak.
Most b series intermediate shafts should work, im using a 99 gsr one. Just match the SEAL you use on the shaft to the tranny.
IE. 99 shaft, 91 Integra LS seal
91 shaft, 91 seal etc... Or it will leak.
Here is your answer. I have a S1 tranny on my b16(1 million series motor). I used 90-91 integra non-abs axles. When I went to the local auto parts store they had different PNs for the ABS ands non-ABS axles so I am assuming they are different. Just play it safe and go with non-abs.
the spline count is different on 90-91 and 92-93's I believe the 92-93s have an added spline.
You have the same setup as me so I can safely tell you that you will need:
drivers side and Pass side 90-91 non-abs teg axles.
p.s. make sure you motor s/n starts with a 1 not a 3 (on the block).
the spline count is different on 90-91 and 92-93's I believe the 92-93s have an added spline.
You have the same setup as me so I can safely tell you that you will need:
drivers side and Pass side 90-91 non-abs teg axles.
p.s. make sure you motor s/n starts with a 1 not a 3 (on the block).
it does not matter what tranny you are using!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
use the 90-93 teg axles (abs or non... doesn't matter) with the 90-93 teg half shaft. this will work no matter what tranny you are using. (as long as it is b series)
use the 90-93 teg axles (abs or non... doesn't matter) with the 90-93 teg half shaft. this will work no matter what tranny you are using. (as long as it is b series)
now im torn between 86-89 teg driver axles with 90-93 innner cv's on passenger side; and 90-91 axles there has to be a difference....which ones ya'll I need a definate answer
dude if you would go through all that trouble of haing an axle made of half 88 teg and half 90 civic, then just go striaght to raxels.com and order a set for b16 swapped crxs.
http://www.raxles.com/hybrids.aspx
if not, then use the 91 teg non abs with any teg int shaft, but you have to match the seal if you use a newer int shaft. why not just make it easy on yourself, and go with something you can get at autozone/pep boys (whatever) for cheap, as opposed to something you or someone will make for you.
and hasport took their axle page down, so if you can find a mirror of that elsewhere, you would find the answer to your question about how to make axles for the swap, but it really doesnt matter bc theres a usdm solution that bolts right up and works fine.
http://www.raxles.com/hybrids.aspx
if not, then use the 91 teg non abs with any teg int shaft, but you have to match the seal if you use a newer int shaft. why not just make it easy on yourself, and go with something you can get at autozone/pep boys (whatever) for cheap, as opposed to something you or someone will make for you.
and hasport took their axle page down, so if you can find a mirror of that elsewhere, you would find the answer to your question about how to make axles for the swap, but it really doesnt matter bc theres a usdm solution that bolts right up and works fine.
Look dude go to a junkyard and spend the $30 to get a 90-93 integra intermediate shaft, then use the 90-93 integra NON ABS axles. Don't listen to anyone that is telling you that you can still use the 90-93 axles with your shaft because they are full of ****.....unless their b16a came out of a DA integra and not a SiR. It will save you from having to make a frakenstein axle. And where are you reading your numbers from your shaft......i looked at my SiR one and my numbers don't match yours. Maybe you already have a DA shaft!?
yeah thats what I would like to know....is the JDM DA b16 intermediate shaft stamped sk7-7 or is that something else? I dont have time to order from raxles I will be be buying these from the parts store tomorrow.....
Ok, its tuff to know where the int shaft was sourced from. The sk7 is (I believe) a 90-91 jdm shaft, so your axles needed are the 90-91 integra.
If the axles came from a ef chassis, you would want 89 teg axles with 90-91 joints.
Thats the 411 on axles for the b16a.
If you are unsure what you have go to the junkyard with yours and see if its the same as a 90-91 teg. Its that easy.
If the axles came from a ef chassis, you would want 89 teg axles with 90-91 joints.
Thats the 411 on axles for the b16a.
If you are unsure what you have go to the junkyard with yours and see if its the same as a 90-91 teg. Its that easy.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by evad »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Look dude go to a junkyard and spend the $30 to get a 90-93 integra intermediate shaft, then use the 90-93 integra NON ABS axles. Don't listen to anyone that is telling you that you can still use the 90-93 axles with your shaft because they are full of ****.....unless their b16a came out of a DA integra and not a SiR. It will save you from having to make a frakenstein axle. And where are you reading your numbers from your shaft......i looked at my SiR one and my numbers don't match yours. Maybe you already have a DA shaft!?</TD></TR></TABLE>
wisdom spoken. scrap the jap parts. get axles with int shaft from usdm car. enjoy vtec.
wisdom spoken. scrap the jap parts. get axles with int shaft from usdm car. enjoy vtec.
For anyone interested later on I ordered the 90-91 integra NON-ABS (there was a difference) and they work like a charm. This was for my intermediate shaft with sk7-7 stamped on it and s1 tranny (not that it matters). All I did was pop them in. No changing of inner cv's or anything like that.
Sweet, I have a J1 tranny I believe and will be needing axles soon. Out of curiosity are the 92-93 integra axles different from the 90-91's? or are the 90-93 integra axles pretty much the same.


