People are telling me I am smoking crack.. I pulled apart my head on my B16 to look at my Cams because it was rumored that my Motor came from an Auto B16. I used a Mic to measure the lobes on the Cams and the Lobes were slightly larger on the 5 speed cams vs the Auto Cams so I installed the 5 Speed cams with the slightly larger Lobes.

Now my car feels like its got a little more top end and pulls a little harder all motor plus we had to do a Valve adjustment for the new cams because of the new lobe size. Now people are telling me there is no difference between the 5 Speed B16 Cams and the Auto B16 cams.. But when I measured them there was a physical difference between the cams that we had at the shop..

So am I smoking crack or is My Mic broken when mesuring these two and is my Butt Dyno broken and can't tell the difference in the new Power?..

Any help soon would be appreciated.. Thanks guys.

 

i think the cam should be still the same ...hell i dont even own a b16 but bump i wanna know the fact...

 

Yeah I want to know too.. Some say they are some they aren't..

 

dont know for sure but on some cars the auto models have less power(cam diff?)...so i guess it could be possible...r u sure the cams from the 5speed arnt aftermarket or mabye from b17?

 

You are correct in your assumption, the auto cams are infact different.

 

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That is what I've been told also. You can tell the others that THEY are the ones smoking crack

 

a b16a1 auto is a 155hp stock a b16a1 5speed is a 160hp.

 

auto b16's also have single valve springs, might wanna change those

 

all b16s have single valve springs on the exhaust side. I had a b16 auto motor (that i put a b16 hydro tranny)that i put ctr cams in. i bought intake springs on the exhaust side for the ctr cams. because the b16 intake springs are the same as ctr springs.

 

Thanks for the help guys. I will look and see if we have any good Valve springs around here to swap those out also. But again thanks for letting me know I am not smoking crack.. Now onto looking for some Valve springs around here.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by CarAudiophile &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Thanks for the help guys. I will look and see if we have any good Valve springs around here to swap those out also. But again thanks for letting me know I am not smoking crack.. Now onto looking for some Valve springs around here. </TD></TR></TABLE>

ITR valvetrain is
But if you are planning to get bigger aftermarket cams, you might have to get better springs/retainers than ITR.

 

pay close attention to the red boxes, and read the text inside mmmmmmmmmmmkay? i'll accept your thanks in advance!

 

Thanks for that article.. Makes me feel a little better now.

 

i just love how people (not you) think they know it all. they hear from a friend of a friend's cousins grandmother's god father that the B16A has one billion horse power when u put type r cams, and pistons in it, so they believe it. &lt;---this is just an anology.

 

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like i said before!!

 

b16a auto cams make a great turbo cam, dont beleive me if im working a stock bottom end turbo car that is gonna make less than &lt;300 ill pick the b16 auto if i can find it...... itll make about 12- 15 ft tq more in the midrange then the gsr cam. the gsr cam will only start to make more power after 8200 rpms which is pointless anyways.....if you get a popular turbo cam (not saying any names but im sure you all can think of who makes a turbo cam) and compare it to the b16a auto cams you will find they are almost EXACTALLY the same =P just a little food for thought

 

Wanna buy 2 sets of Auto Cams?..

 

interesting

 

I can vouch for the Auto Motors having smaller lobes on the cams.....I bought one a few years back and was also skepticle. Low and behold, when i pulled the stock cams and springs out in favor of 99 GSR units, The lobes are almost the same size as the primary and secondary lobes. The intake springs are single like the exhaust being you dont need dual setup for smaller lift lobes. I can take pics of the auto cams versus the manual cams....they are indeed different.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by rsbad454 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I can vouch for the Auto Motors having smaller lobes on the cams.....I bought one a few years back and was also skepticle. Low and behold, when i pulled the stock cams and springs out in favor of 99 GSR units, The lobes are almost the same size as the primary and secondary lobes. The intake springs are single like the exhaust being you dont need dual setup for smaller lift lobes. I can take pics of the auto cams versus the manual cams....they are indeed different.</TD></TR></TABLE>

by any chance did you happen to see my post below? thanks for restating the obvious.

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Awsome info

 

The stock rating for the 1st gen B16A auto is 150hp and yes single wound valve springs were all that were used on both sets of cams.

It should also be noted that even the 1st gen B16 cams (5 speed ones) were the weakest of the jdm vtec b series. The addition of a newer generation jdm B16 or even the gsr cams will yield better results.

 

yes the cams are diff..simply because the auto tranny has a diff shift point which .intern wont rev as high as a 5 speed. So why put a bigger cam in a auto? no need said honda...well its a must for power... my buddy did a auto ls/vtec in his integra ,it had a b16 head with auto cams.took them out ,swapped them with gsr cams. so it reved the same but made a DECENT dif in power. im guessing maybe 10-15hp diff?? but very noticable!!


wish he would have Used CTR?? wonder wat they would have felt like?

 

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by any chance did you happen to see my post below? thanks for restating the obvious.

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Yes, I saw the post.....I'm stating my experience, If it was obvious then peeps wouldnt ask questions about it now would they?

 

great info...