T3 super 60 Turbo for B16, Tooo Small??????

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Old Nov 8, 2004 | 10:19 PM
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Default T3 super 60 Turbo for B16, Tooo Small??????

ok guys ive decided to turbo my b16 instead of going crv block vtec head all motor. i found a t3 super 60 turbo completely rebuilt 0miles for a good price. i heard this turbo is ideal for d series, and its small for my car. it spools up real fast and i wont have any top end. if this is so then i dont really want this turbo. Which turbo would be better suited for me?? my setup is jdmb16,itr cams,euro r tb,itr mani,skunk2 gears,jun flywheel,hondatas200w/boost,i will be gettin a lovefab mani,jrc fmic,type s bov, 3" dp rsr exmag catback (for quiet sound)but will have dump tube switch i can hit to open exhaust. right now i wont be buildin the motor until spring probably, i would only be running about 9psi tops tuned by hondata i would hope it should be pretty safe to drive daily. give me some feedback and opinions. thanks
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Old Nov 9, 2004 | 01:43 AM
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That turbo will make 300 on a b16.I use those all the time.For stop sign to stop sign. They are hard to beat.Its not to small.One of the guys at work has one on a built h23.It does'nt heat up eather.
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Old Nov 9, 2004 | 04:43 AM
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Id say that is a good turbo even for a B16..I have one on my D series and it works out well.. I think it is one of the Biggest Full T3's around
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Old Nov 9, 2004 | 04:56 AM
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i think its not to small but thats just me i heard that is one of the nicest turbos for the buck if ur gettting it cheap and ull have fun if ur pushing only like 9psi dd it will last a while
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Old Nov 9, 2004 | 05:21 AM
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I think it's too small, cause there a member here that dynoed his b16 with a t3 super 60 trim @ 6-8 psi. Right when he got around 5k rpm the torque stopped going up which, made his hp stay flat= no good.
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Old Nov 9, 2004 | 05:39 AM
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No way man - that T3 Super 60 is nearly perfect turbo for a STOCK bottom end turbo B16 and even BETTER for a LS motor with lower revs..

Go for it. If you have plans in the near future for built motors, stand alone and high boost levels - then you might want to go bigger.

Great turbo for stock motors.
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Old Nov 9, 2004 | 06:28 AM
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I would consider something slightly larger personally. It's a little bigger than the 60 trim T3 which makes it popular for Dseries mostly. It would be alright stock block (it will spool nice and quick), but the main concern would be if you ever built the motor, you'd have to upgrade eventually. The turbo's only sufficent to low 300hp. (depending on what you had in mind )
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Old Nov 9, 2004 | 06:48 AM
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well heres the thing. right now im not gona be able to build the block until spring. i hear i can just swap out the turbos pretty much anyways, which i plan to do once i build the block. but im asking if i should go with this setup and then when i build the motor up i was thinkin maybe sc61. but thats later on. so if i was gona be pushin 9psi with this turbo with my setup. how much whp can i be expecting? thanks
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Old Nov 9, 2004 | 06:59 AM
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A lot of people don't seem to know the difference between an OEM .60 trim T3 and a Super 60. Make sure, because they are not the same thing.
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Old Nov 9, 2004 | 07:25 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by J. Davis &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">A lot of people don't seem to know the difference between an OEM .60 trim T3 and a Super 60. Make sure, because they are not the same thing.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Exactly. I love seeing posts asking about the T3 Super 60 Trim.
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Old Nov 9, 2004 | 08:02 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by raene &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Exactly. I love seeing posts asking about the T3 Super 60 Trim. </TD></TR></TABLE>

So far, I haven't seen a Honduh claiming a Super .60 that wasn't in truth an OEM .60 trim. The Super 60 was popular with the minimopar guys, and nobody else, from what I gather. Pretty much a T04B compressor wheel, similar the to the "T3" on the Grand National.
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Old Nov 9, 2004 | 08:09 AM
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"Super" 60 sells. You can't realistically expect those eBay vendors to rip people off by stating that it's "only" a 60 trim?

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Old Nov 9, 2004 | 08:38 AM
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I know for a fact its the super 60. now can anyone else help me out with some onpions on this setup.....thanks
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Old Nov 9, 2004 | 08:50 AM
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i like it on my brothers ls stock block, and i have a b16 and I was going to buy it for myself but im wanting a bit bigger.

my goal is 320ish whp. i am at 233 whp right now. what turbo should i go with?

b16a

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9:1 compression pistons and rods

is the t3/to4e too big? 50 trim stage 3 wheel 60 ar?

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Old Nov 9, 2004 | 09:11 AM
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if youre gonna build the motor in a few months why waste money? Buy the sc61 first and be done with it, it makes a shitload more power than the super 60. You wont be dissapointed even on your stock block.
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Old Nov 9, 2004 | 09:11 AM
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Super 60 t3 is a great turbo for the street.
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Old Nov 9, 2004 | 03:59 PM
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hmm...whats the difference between the oem .60 and the super 60, and how can u tell by looking
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Old Nov 9, 2004 | 04:13 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by rioninja &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">60/63 t3 is a great turbo for the street.
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Old Nov 10, 2004 | 12:52 AM
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the .48 ar turbine will run out of breath on high rpms on a b16 as i found out and went with a larger 60/63 and loved it. made good power all the way to redline almost never flattened out. my b16 had 9:1 je pistons/eagle rods. on 12psi, made 307-360whp on two different dynos running an uberdata basemap.
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Old Nov 11, 2004 | 11:28 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JDM96SpecCTR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">hmm...whats the difference between the oem .60 and the super 60, and how can u tell by looking</TD></TR></TABLE>

T3 60 trim has a smaller flow capacity(34 lbs/min) Vs the Super 60(36 lbs/min)

60 trim has a smaller inducer than the Super 60

T3 60 Trim


T3 Super 60


According to the compressor maps...On my D series the Super60 is efficient up to 25 PSI @ 7200 redline and will have full spool of 25PSI @ 5000rpms. With 20PSI or less full spool will be at +/- 4000rmps and will hold it till red line

On a B16 this turbo should be good/efficient till around 18PSIs

Use the compressor maps and do the Math to see if its a good turbo or not..I think is a great choice.... Oviously there are other better choices but for the price this is like the best bang for the buck.
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Old Nov 11, 2004 | 01:07 PM
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I have a regular t3 63/60 from a 300xz, but what car did the super 60 come with?
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Old Nov 11, 2004 | 02:42 PM
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The Super 60 package was a Mopar race package for 80s turbo mopars, like daytonas, omnis, and ****. Usually you can find a Super 60 on turbododge.com or any other turbo mopar site.
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Old Nov 11, 2004 | 02:44 PM
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it's not like b16's are that big of a motor anyways,

d16's run tiny t25's and such all the time and they work great!

a b16 is still just 1.6
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Old Nov 11, 2004 | 03:03 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Smooth-GSR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I have a regular t3 63/60 from a 300xz, but what car did the super 60 come with? </TD></TR></TABLE>

no cars came with it.
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Old Nov 11, 2004 | 05:36 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Tad &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">it's not like b16's are that big of a motor anyways,

d16's run tiny t25's and such all the time and they work great!

a b16 is still just 1.6</TD></TR></TABLE>


it's a lil thing called 1000 rpm's is what makes the difference. That adds almost 6-7lbs more air at 9psi. that kind of air will quickly put you out of the compressor map for a T3
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