The article in Modified Mag has information on the Prelude setup when we were at 590whp. Check it out. I was reading where this topic was locked and saw the same old debate on what is street legal. If it helps this prelude is regestered does drive on normal tires on the street, has full interior even in the trunk, full glass and yes the windows and sun roof motors work great. Heater, lights, wipers all work great. The car is insured and does run on 91 octane fuel. When racing at the track the slicks are added and yes 108 octane fuel is used.
Now we are at a cross roads - to truely be competative winning events we need to get around 500lbs our of this prelude. Its so tempting to just get a civic hatch and be done with this, but were trying not to. The season ended up with 788whp. Traction, weight and axles are the offseason goals. This prelude was spinnning 24.5 slicks in 3d gear - If we launched hard off the line both stock axles would break. And everyone on here knows about the weight.
We get many emails from other prelude owners and the good news is that is seems there are many preludes being built for serious power and hopefully they will show up next year at the race track representing the Prelude community.
Next year will be interesting.

Steve Sr.

 

All I can say is

What are your plans to bring down the wieght?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by OaksRacing &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Its so tempting to just get a civic hatch and be done with this, but were trying not to. </TD></TR></TABLE>

I already threw in the towel and got a civic. I figure I'll turn my prelude back into a daily driver. No sense in turning such a nice car into a tin can.

Just curious... at what power level do you swap to a higher octane?

 

Have never dyno's the car with 91-93 octane - when on the dyno we are looking for peak performance, therfore using the high octane. We also don't change the tune for the street just stay out of high boost running at 4-6lbs to be safe.
And yes PercisionH23 we have been back and forth on just pulling the setup and going to a civic. It is hard to gut a beautiful car. It changes daily looks like today is staying with the Prelude.

 

try having as many body pannels as possible made of carbon fiber (painted), remove any padding from under the carpet, lexan sunroof, etc

even keeping the sunroof functional the lexan alone would save a few pounds along with everything else. there are ways to make that car look stock yet be light as hell.

 

I PM'd this but then I thought I would ask on this thread in case someone else was interested:

In the article I noticed it said that your only valvetrain mod was S2 retainers and you are spinning to 9500rpm. Is that true? I know sometimes the mags don't get numbers right (I am suspect about tire sizing in another article in that mag as well, but that has nothing to do with this post).

Anyways, I am just asking because that is a lot higher than I have heard of anyone going with the H22.

 

788whp, now thats freakin insane, i wish i could look at the full setup,

 

You already have everyone's respect. If you have to make it a trailer-queen to be competitive, we understand. Just the thought of this thing detuned to run down the exotics that prowl around here is a wet dream for me. What can I say, I've always been a ricer at heart.

 

stick with the lude man, it gives us lude owners sumthing to be proud of... another idea, wuld be just to get another lude shell?? and turn that into a purpose build drag car... leave it in a lude man, ul get more respect from us lude owners

 

to Oaks.

I actually bought the magazine last week because I saw your car in it. I was about to ask how current it was because I had read that you were past 700 in a thread a couple weeks ago and the artical was saying 590. Anyway, .

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by bomber &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
In the article I noticed it said that your only valvetrain mod was S2 retainers and you are spinning to 9500rpm. Is that true? I know sometimes the mags don't get numbers right (I am suspect about tire sizing in another article in that mag as well, but that has nothing to do with this post).

Anyways, I am just asking because that is a lot higher than I have heard of anyone going with the H22.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Bomber the rev limit is set at 10K rpm's - and it hits the rev limit very quick in the first 2 gears.

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I actually bought the magazine last week because I saw your car in it. I was about to ask how current it was because I had read that you were past 700 in a thread a couple weeks ago and the artical was saying 590. Anyway, .</TD></TR></TABLE>

The Mod Mag is the December Sema edition that is on news stands Nov 1st. The pictures were taken after the Vegas NHRA event. This was in July when we were at 590whp. We should have been in the 10's that race, but kept blowing boost pipe connectors. Fixed that problem and then raced the next day running an 11.2. During that run our alternator belt broke going into the timing belt which inturn broke it . This is why you don't see any pic's of the car going down the road. It was over 100 degrees when those pictures were taken.
Currently we are at 788whp with a 30shot of nitrous. We can make more power,but have to upgrade the axles first.

 

Congrats Steve. I just ordered my turbo kit for my USDM H22. I plan on running stock valvetrain just like yourself, a simple build up of the block, forged pistons, sleeve the block, eagle rods, retainers.

Will my valves be able to handle the T-70 Turbine Im putting on the car? I have 160xxx on this beast, but I race a lot. I run a 13.9 on Skunk2 Stage 1 Cams, I/H/E, Stage II Clutch, Aluminum flywheel. I have no problems, and I take care of the car.

Boost is something I planned on getting into, and now that Winter is around the corner I am taking advantage of it, and going that route. What kind of advise would you have for me and my build up?

Should I increase throttle size?
Bore the cylinders? If so how much? 88?
Run stock valves with the kind of miles I have?
What pistons would you reccomend?

I am going to be running this Feburary (Hopefully) Custom manifold, 3" dowpipe, 3" random tech cat, Tial 40mm wastegate, Greddy blowoff valve, piping, nylon elbows, Brand New Spearco intercooler, and the T70 turbo. With what you see, any advise?

Props to your ride, I have been following it for some time now.

Nick-

 

you say to be truly competitive you need to drop 500 pounds. Thats a lot of weight to have to drop, can you even take 500 pounds off of a lude? I don't know im not too familiar with them. But, you definitely can't keep the interior if it's possible. A civic is your only option if you want to be truly competitive.
sounds like a nice lude you have there though, i like the fact thats it's not gutted and is a dialy driver.

 

I love the fact that I can tell people about your prelude. They're always like "whoa...really?" The oaks lude is a gift to the prelude world and should not be axed for competiton sake. Of course this is just my opinion. I have seen your lude run at Bandi on numerous occasions and every time I'm like "Oh ****, heres that bad *** Prelude!" Everyone in the stands turns to watch intently. Your car makes a good prescence. There are enough civics.

 

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I actually bought the magazine last week because I saw your car in it. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Same, excellent work by Oaks

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by H22INSD &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Will my valves be able to handle the T-70 Turbine Im putting on the car? I have 160xxx on this beast, but I race a lot. I run a 13.9 on Skunk2 Stage 1 Cams, I/H/E, Stage II Clutch, Aluminum flywheel. I have no problems, and I take care of the car.

Should I increase throttle size?
Bore the cylinders? If so how much? 88?
Run stock valves with the kind of miles I have?

Nick-</TD></TR></TABLE>
H22 stock valves can handle a T70, but keep in mind NHRA is rumored to be limiting Turbo size in SFWD next year - nothing official
Stock throttle is what we run - Money is better spent elsewhere
88mm ok
Our head has 45-50K on it. Valves should be seating properly.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PriMaTe &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">you say to be truly competitive you need to drop 500 pounds. Thats a lot of weight to have to drop, can you even take 500 pounds off of a lude? I don't know im not too familiar with them. But, you definitely can't keep the interior if it's possible. A civic is your only option if you want to be truly competitive.
sounds like a nice lude you have there though, i like the fact thats it's not gutted and is a dialy driver.</TD></TR></TABLE>

500 additional pounds in reality is probably not possible. We are at 2900 right now. We may be able to get another 150#. We are looking at options with the axles , once that is ok we will have tranny issues, unless we can solve that. If we can get past these 2 problems we can make more power. That will be the only way we can be competative with the lighter civics.

To all of you thanks for the comments its much appreciated. I can't believe it but the cardomain website is about to pass the 23000 hit mark.

Steve Sr.

 

Thanks for the reply. Thumbs up man!