Vortech FMU 12:1 / stock injectors VS Greddy SOHC Blue Box

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Old Oct 25, 2004 | 08:58 AM
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Default Vortech FMU 12:1 / stock injectors VS Greddy SOHC Blue Box

I searched and it seems that the info is old and vague so i want to get new info maybe things are different...I have the greddy kit but want to know what would be better to run with the stock pre-set boost (5.5-6). Personal experience will always be great...thanks

ps uberdata will be some time next year
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Old Oct 25, 2004 | 11:11 AM
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bump, i would like to know also
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Old Oct 25, 2004 | 11:36 AM
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ive got my d15b7 turboed and when i was putting the kit together i just planned to run 5-6 all day long. the fmu will work fine with those boost levels. however it is not the best management u can use. if u wanna go much higher than that, i would recommend an safc and dsm 450's or uberdata.. u have way more tunability with those two options.
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Old Oct 25, 2004 | 01:25 PM
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yea thats true i can run the same boost with both but what you think will be a more reliable set up?
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Old Oct 25, 2004 | 01:28 PM
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um, both options suck. why not just run uberdata?


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Old Oct 25, 2004 | 01:38 PM
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well for me i have a HX so i don't think uberdata will work with that seeing i have vtec-e and some other thing I forgot stoping me... So its ethier bluebox or FMU i guess. As for the other guy he stated he was going to get uberdata sometime next year.
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Old Oct 25, 2004 | 03:02 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by I Have an STD &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">um, both options suck. why not just run uberdata?


Brett</TD></TR></TABLE> yea compared to uber or hondata but just tryin to learn the roots of turbo...i have the funds but want to take things one a time.
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Old Oct 26, 2004 | 11:17 AM
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my opinion is coming from something ive been running for over 2 years. the fmu WILL work fine.
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Old Oct 26, 2004 | 05:47 PM
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Default Re: Vortech FMU 12:1 / stock injectors VS Greddy SOHC Blue Box (singlecamhatch)

What exactly does the GReddy Blue Box do?
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Old Oct 26, 2004 | 05:55 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Vtaaak y0 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">What exactly does the GReddy Blue Box do?</TD></TR></TABLE>

fuel injector management
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Old Oct 26, 2004 | 06:00 PM
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the blue box is junk thats why i guess thats why greddy kit come with the e-manage, i ran the blue box and it still ran lean on the top and that killed my motor, run the fmu and a fuel pump if money is an issue it will do the trick works fine for me now
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Old Oct 26, 2004 | 06:46 PM
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Default Re: Vortech FMU 12:1 / stock injectors VS Greddy SOHC Blue Box (sp0onfed)

Run the blue box and an adjustable fpr to richen it up a little bit if you want to run 5-6 pounds.
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Old Oct 26, 2004 | 06:55 PM
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u jacked my avatar
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Old Oct 26, 2004 | 08:04 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by egturbo &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">u jacked my avatar </TD></TR></TABLE>you're the JDM version...well im the USDM version yO!!!
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Old Oct 26, 2004 | 08:44 PM
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how many psi are the fmu reliable up to?
i only want to run 5-6psi on my d16z6 and would like to make use of a spare fmu that i have. sound good?
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Old Oct 26, 2004 | 09:33 PM
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Default Re: Vortech FMU 12:1 / stock injectors VS Greddy SOHC Blue Box (stealth89hatch)

I ran the greddy kit at 5 psi on the FMU and missing link, and hated every minute of it.

I then switched to the greddy blue box and ran it at 12 psi. Needless to say, a world of difference over the untuned FMU.

BTW, that was stock timing, injectors, pump, everything. Ran it that way for 6 months and blew my HG.

Now I'm running 8 psi solid on the greddy blue box, stock Y8, ARP headstuds, 2.5" test pipe/exhaust, ACT HDSS clutch, DRAG III FMIC, blah blah. I ran a 14.8 at 7 psi with the stock cat in place this past august, but it's good for mid-low 14's at 8 psi with the test pipe.

Racerage1 dynoed at 185whp at 7 psi on the blue box, with his setup being the same as mine.

Greddy blue box for simplicity
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Old Oct 26, 2004 | 11:04 PM
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Default Re: Vortech FMU 12:1 / stock injectors VS Greddy SOHC Blue Box (boostincoupe)

im running a fmu w/ a 255hp walbro and a vafc, but going to go hondata

im running fine now at 6psi, but i want more so a better management for me
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Old Oct 27, 2004 | 01:12 PM
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Default Re: Vortech FMU 12:1 / stock injectors VS Greddy SOHC Blue Box (bucbaby)

thanks for the responses guys
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Old Oct 27, 2004 | 01:41 PM
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I ran the blue box only w/ 5.5 psi of boost and ran a 13.8 @101..This was in a 94 dx coupe with a d16z6..My a/f were 11.40-11.70 range...I then upped base fuel pressure 2-4 psi, and now I can boost up to 10 psi with a a/f around 12.0...The car ran a best of 13.20 @110 mph like this, with numerous 13.30s at 108 mph..
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Old Oct 27, 2004 | 05:01 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 99lspwr &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I ran the blue box only w/ 5.5 psi of boost and ran a 13.8 @101..This was in a 94 dx coupe with a d16z6..My a/f were 11.40-11.70 range...I then upped base fuel pressure 2-4 psi, and now I can boost up to 10 psi with a a/f around 12.0...The car ran a best of 13.20 @110 mph like this, with numerous 13.30s at 108 mph.. </TD></TR></TABLE>

I really need you to give more info. on your setup. I'd believe 13.8 @ 10 psi, but not a 13.2@110 unless you can list your FULL setup like:
-Fuel pressure (WOT)
-timing setting
-stock fuel pump or upgraded?
-stock 240cc injectors?
-what plugs?
-dyno sheets?
-time slips?

I ask because I'm running 8 psi on the blue box, stock injectors/pump, 2 degree timing retard, NGK BKR6E's gapped at .034", 41 psi fuel pressure at idle, 50 psi at WOT.

I ran a 14.8 @ 94MPH at 7.5 psi, with the stock cat in place, and all-season 14" tires (2.36 60 ft.) in a FULLY loaded street-trim EX coupe. Now I'm running 8 psi with a 2.5" test pipe and I'll be going to the track with slicks next time hopefully.

I am hell bent on 13's with no more money in this motor.
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Old Oct 27, 2004 | 08:16 PM
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Default Re: Vortech FMU 12:1 / stock injectors VS Greddy SOHC Blue Box (boostincoupe)

what did you hate about the fmu setup before you went to the blue box?
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Old Oct 27, 2004 | 08:18 PM
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its all in the driver
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Old Oct 28, 2004 | 05:24 AM
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He ran 13.2 at 110 on 10psi. 99lspwr is one of my good freinds. The d16 came out of my car . Stock motor 180,000 miles. Stock injectors and pump.
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Old Oct 28, 2004 | 05:25 AM
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Why would you not use the bluebox if you just want to run low boost. What is the point of putting an fmu on there.
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Old Oct 28, 2004 | 05:48 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by boosted-delslow &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">He ran 13.2 at 110 on 10psi. 99lspwr is one of my good freinds. The d16 came out of my car . Stock motor 180,000 miles. Stock injectors and pump.</TD></TR></TABLE>

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