Newest issue of Honda Tuning mag features an EF being built by Dane Sloan, who is "building a road race car for Honda Challenge competition". Motor is a b16 block with GE sleeves and arias 85mm 11.5:1 forged pistons?? It has stock LS rods though!

Just seems odd. If your illegal buildup is featured in a magazine how are you not gonna get protested?

 

oh it also uses an AEBS intake manifold and str 68mm tb

 

He probably realizes that there are other places to race his car than just Honda Challenge...
In fact I believe there is an exciting new alternative "Honda Cup Series" about to start soon that will suit his car perfectly.

 

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Perhaps you could elaborate...

Thawley

 

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Perhaps you could elaborate...

Thawley</TD></TR></TABLE>

Just wait for the Official Special Projects Honda Tech Press Release...

or OSPHTPR for short

 

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In fact I believe there is an exciting new alternative "Honda Cup Series" about to start soon that will suit his car perfectly. </TD></TR></TABLE>

sounds like speedtrial usa.

i read it here...

honda cup

 

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In fact I believe there is an exciting new alternative "Honda Cup Series" about to start soon that will suit his car perfectly. </TD></TR></TABLE>


while that very well may be true, why the heck would they publish something that said this car is being built for honda challenge.

i saw the article last night and had to read every thing 2 or three time over to make sure i was reading it correctly. hopefully he doesn't plain on racing in in HC, or else big wake up call

 

Speedtrial??? omg, I'll stay with NASA.

 

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Seriously. No comment there at all.

 

I've enjoyed some very good racing with STUSA and hope to continue doing so. They have a very well run series. But that is not the series I was talking about...
I'm sure there will be a Release on this from the appropriate people soon?
We are in the middle of constructing a completely "new" car which can now be re configured to suit both the "SCCA Honda Cup?" and the "STUSA Honda Cup"... Unfortunately this new car will not now be legal for NASA Honda Challenge. However, at least now all of our research into the K-Series engines will not have been in vain!
Kiwi

 

I'm glad to know I wasn't the only scratching my head on that article....I just kept looking at the rule book and then the article

 

awesome. now i get to race against the kiwi-driven unlimited-spec k20 powered special projects superhonda. wave when you lap me jeff

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Grumpy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">In light of the high volume of Hondas involved in other STUSA events, the organization has decided to start a series named the Honda Cup. The goal of the new series is to create true motorsports enthusiasm for Honda/Acura owners in a controlled environment. The Cup will initially only consist of Civics, Integras, Preludes and CRXs, and classifications are to be broken down by engine size and by the limitations of the vehicle's modifications. In addition, an Open Class will be offered that will be free of any limitations. All race vehicles must have specified driver safety equipment as summarized in the STUSA Honda Cup rulebook.

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I just keep reminding myself that imitation is supposed to be some sort of flattery.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 909edge &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Newest issue of Honda Tuning mag features an EF being built by Dane Sloan, who is "building a road race car for Honda Challenge competition". Motor is a b16 block with GE sleeves and arias 85mm 11.5:1 forged pistons?? It has stock LS rods though!

Just seems odd. If your illegal buildup is featured in a magazine how are you not gonna get protested?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Seriously though, some of us Riceburners don't know that there are even rules for racing (and I say "us" because i've been there, yo)- they think they can build whatever and race this thing called the Honda Challenge that they heard about and can sound cool to their buddies saying they are going to do it...

Case in point:

One day me, sam, and lee went to the Junkyard to go pick up some front suspension assembly for our racecar when we were building it in Feburary.

We were waiting for the junkyard guys to get us our parts, and some other customer comes in and introduces himself as a racer/fabricator. We don't tell him who we are or what we're doing, and lo and behold- he puffed up his chest and says, "I'm racing in the Honda Challenge this year and I'm almost done with my roll cage." I think he said this to sound cool...

So we all look at each other, and we're like "Sweet! Someone else in SanDiego that's gonna race in HC! So what class are you running?"

"Uh...I'm not sure yet." Obviously we caught him off guard and he started to back-peddle.

"So what mtor are you running?"

"LS Vtec"

"Oh, okay your in H1 then... are you sure your cage is up to spec?"

"Oh yeah! It's a 13 point cage! That should be good enough."

We looked at each other, and we're confused as hell... So we asked again:

"Are you SURE you're running in the HONDA CHALLENGE?"

He said, "Yeah, for sure, isn't the Honda Challenge when you go to the stadium and drive around parking lot with cones and stuff?"

 

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He said, "Yeah, for sure, isn't the Honda Challenge when you go to the stadium and drive around parking lot with cones and stuff?"

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That could be the ProSolo Honda Street Challenge

 

I don't have all the details, but this will not be for Parking Lot Racers...

As far as I know, and much of this will be confirmed in due course... It is being set up as it should be... Regs that are easy to police... No Tear downs, Cars that look fast, go fast, and Engines that will stay together? Existing H4 & H1+? are all welcome.
Racing Licenses and Racing experience in other organizations will be recognised, each on their merits. A SCCA Membership will be required. Available on the day $50.00?
I believe a Sponsor has already been found and others are waiting to jump on board.

 

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So I guess you could say he was actually trying to sell you some B.S. and you weren't buying it?

Sorry, I couldn't resist.

 

it's Honda Tuning

they are idiots

It may have been that he built the motor along with the car and has now decided to build it for Honda Challenge and the motor will be replaced and they did'nt think stock GSR sounded so cool

it may just be along with smoking enough crack to feature the worlds most horrific version of an ITR that they became confused and took some journalistic liberties

Since even a fully built stroker 2.0L is cheaper than a possible K24 combo there will probably be more interest

maybe just because they won't try to run 50 billion cars on track at the same time either

 

This Honda cup thing, will it be good for Honda Racing in general? Is it good to have more series, or this will spread us even thinner? Me personally, like more competition and less series. Heck, I was even fighting for one West Coast Honda Challenge other than Norcal region and Socal region. I think it will be better in the long run.

Personally, I like the way the rules are written, and been very happy with the organizer. They are willing to listen to input for revision of the rule every year, but not midseason, to ensure some sort of stability.

As far as teardown goes, some people might think it is excessive, and for what, only $5 medal? My take is, it is necessary and a professional thing to run a series. I sure hate to have to police each other, and that's what series director are for, isn't it? By enforcing the rule, it opens more window for sponsors and professionalism of the series.

If you want to run where you can built your car to your own rule, NASA still have a place for it, called Super Unlimited!

As far as K motor have soft rod, I don't really buy it. Sure, I'm new in the K motor racing. But Honda and people in Japan has ben racing this motor for quite a while in their one make series, and they are not allowed to change the rods either.

Maybe you ought to look at another possibility of the cause? Varo been running the full season without any problem, and we all know he is the champion.




Modified by Andrie at 9:19 AM 10/15/2004

 

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So I guess you could say he was actually trying to sell you some B.S. and you weren't buying it?

Sorry, I couldn't resist. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Yeah, exxactly.

 

many seires spreeds out the compotetion and the sponsor's. Both of those things suck. A no one wants to race buy them selfs. B parts a cheap prices ROXOR.


i think its a horrible idea, hopefully it will fail, and bring every one over to HC again.

 

Does this mean the SCCA is doing a HT type calss now also?

I read the rules for the Honda Cup held by STUSA on their web sight. It's 2 classes, much like H1 and SU in NASA.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Race car qualifications are basically there are 2 race challenge classes under FIA rules:
1. Any 4 cylinder normal aspirated race cars.
2. Open to more than 4 cylinders and any forced induction race cars.

Minimum Driver Qualifications: FIA, SCCA, NASA, PCA, POC BMWCCA or TCRA License

VEHICLE REQUIREMENTS: Honda, Nissan, Toyota and Open Class (any make)

-6 point roll cage
-Race bucket seat (FIA approved)
-5 point harness
-Fire extinguisher
-3 layer fire suit (FIA, SFI), helmet (SA95 or better), shoes and gloves
-Weight -open
-Aerodynamics - open
-Suspension -open
-Brakes -open
-Tires -DOT
-Exhaust -open
-Electronics -open
-Engine -open
-Force induction - Turbo or Supercharger (Open Class only)

awarded in the Challenge cup and the Open Challenge Cup..

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Modified by 577HondaPrelude at 4:43 PM 10/15/2004


Modified by 577HondaPrelude at 4:44 PM 10/15/2004

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by FF lotus &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">it's Honda Tuning

they are idiots

It may have been that he built the motor along with the car and has now decided to build it for Honda Challenge and the motor will be replaced and they did'nt think stock GSR sounded so cool

it may just be along with smoking enough crack to feature the worlds most horrific version of an ITR that they became confused and took some journalistic liberties

Since even a fully built stroker 2.0L is cheaper than a possible K24 combo there will probably be more interest

maybe just because they won't try to run 50 billion cars on track at the same time either</TD></TR></TABLE>

Speaking of smoking crack, are you? Is this even English? I think that GOGOrally guy's babelfish crap is clearer than your post.

 

Jesus, if those rules are correct, then according to Hopes admission on here, he will be out of HC and turbo his CRX.....

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Aquafina &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Jesus, if those rules are correct, then according to Hopes admission on here, he will be out of HC and turbo his CRX..... </TD></TR></TABLE>

Now that's just plain crazy talk.