just a little info for the H22 guys..

i had a standard set of jdm h22 cams sent in. I've been working with rocket motorsports with the F and H series development and R&D.

after a long wait and final outcome.. RM master the specs and i had my cams~

they looked good, and i was eager to run them.. naturally my car isnt ready, so i

shipped them out to Jdogg at eurospeed performance in NC.

here are the results:

these were tested back to back on a jdm h22 with 0.030in cometic headgasket, euro r intake manifold, b16 throttle body, ebay weapon r header and no exhaust, both tuned with the aem ems.

<U>dunno why the numbers are so low... i think the car was just pissed off that day</U>.. but rocket regrinds &gt; type s cams

you cant see the marker, but on the tq graph the marker is at about 3800 rpms where the biggest tq gain is. on the hp graph the gains are shown for peak hp



main thread is now located here: http://m24x.zeroforum.com/zerothread?id=2018


To Rocket at Rocket Motorsports
to Jdogg for the dyno run
for me , cause i am going to love them~

Any H guys interested, i have one other set done and one more currently being done, to save on downtime. Pm me or Rocket himself.


Modified by KTeller8 at 11:34 PM 10/8/2004

 

Lookin good Kteller.

 

Rocket Motorsports btw, where is he? i havn't seen him post up for a while?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DEVIOUS_EF* &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Rocket Motorsports btw, where is he? i havn't seen him post up for a while? </TD></TR></TABLE>

thanks guy

very busy.. working on new items, R&D as well as keeping strong to his family and other needs

 

Torque looks too low, I made 130ft lbs with a horrible AFR of 9:1 untuned on the dyno with my LSVTEC...

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by LSVTEC 91 Civic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Torque looks too low, I made 130ft lbs with a horrible AFR of 9:1 untuned on the dyno with my LSVTEC...</TD></TR></TABLE>

not sure how to compare your lsvtec tq with the h22. but thanks for the post :shrugs:

 

Just look at the gains, not the overall numbers. It is most likely something with the dyno.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by KTeller8 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">not sure how to compare your lsvtec tq with the h22. but thanks for the post :shrugs:</TD></TR></TABLE>

Wasn't my intention to offend you.. but an H22 should make more torque than my 1.8..

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by LSVTEC 91 Civic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Wasn't my intention to offend you.. but an H22 should make more torque than my 1.8..</TD></TR></TABLE>

you didnt, like i said, i have no way to compare your lsvtec to jdogg h22..

also like posted, he did mention the car not seeming to be on its best leg. but nonetheless the runs are still back to back

personally i would of used a different header and a kteller exhaust.

 

Yea i think its his motor or something. I made 178 and 154 on a dynojet. This was with jdm h22 i/e/tuning. I wonder what these cams can make on a strong h22.

 

Do you need to run an aftermarket valvetrain with these cams?

 

15 ft.-lbs. of torque and 20 hp is a pretty impressive gain. As stated those numbers are pretty damn low. That is one anemic H22. I wonder what kind of gains those cams would net on a healthy engine?

 

yum yum the price is even better

 

The low torque is just a result of a quirk in the dynapack software . . . . it only applies SAE correction to the horsepower curve, not the torque curve. Like others have mentioned, the important thing to look at is the change in torque/horsepower. Not the peak numbers, as that will be drastically affected by whatever the ramp time was set on the dynapack for that particular dyno run.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by b19coupe &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">15 ft.-lbs. of torque and 20 hp is a pretty impressive gain. I wonder what kind of gains those cams would net on a healthy engine?</TD></TR></TABLE>

same here....

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by KTeller8 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

personally i would of used a different header and a kteller exhaust.</TD></TR></TABLE>

lol no kidding

btw thanks for shipping out my resonator so fast

 

I also would love to see what these would do in other motors.. i have one other set available: Next to this current set..


http://www.kteller.com/store/p.../1070

 

Ever considered testing your cams against a tru Type S setup.?! Because my stock tuned dyno numbers are higher than graphs listed...

 

So that is 164 on the dyno and the 179 is SAE corrected right? Also, would Rocket be able to achieve the same grind specs on regular JDM h22a cams? How much are you selling these other cams you have available? One last thing how much is the regrinding service?

It's been about a year since I last heard about Rocket's regrinds, well at least the idea of it.

Also what was your last dyno run with the stock type s cams if you ever dynoed them?

 

nice job Kteller!

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DynamicEG22 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Do you need to run an aftermarket valvetrain with these cams?</TD></TR></TABLE>

if you want to keep stock rev limit, id say no.. if you want to gain more from higher rev limit then yes.

id recommend at least stiffer inners.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Pat McGroin &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">So that is 164 on the dyno and the 179 is SAE corrected right? Also, would Rocket be able to achieve the same grind specs on regular JDM h22a cams? How much are you selling these other cams you have available? One last thing how much is the regrinding service?

It's been about a year since I last heard about Rocket's regrinds, well at least the idea of it.

Also what was your last dyno run with the stock type s cams if you ever dynoed them?</TD></TR></TABLE>

yes, these were orginally standard jdm cams. i had pulled and sent in.. then a while went by where myself and rocket talked bout setup, type of specs and others stuff that was used into these cams.

only dyno run i know on the motor used here was this run and i believe a skunk2 setup is going to be done here soon.. as posted this motor is jdogg's motor and he had just recently put it in the civic. i am sure a bit better tuning and time will show more!

 

pm me mike

 

good numbers!

 

Do the regrinds work on USDM cams as well? On your site the dyno for the rm H22s provided says it is a stock vs. type-s. Is this right?

Anyway, good gains regardless of the low numbers.