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Old 09-19-2007, 09:22 PM
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Default EX Knuckles 11" big brake conversion

Ive searched and read tons of threads and this is what ive came up with as far as EX knuckles go:

11" 93-96 Prelude VTEC rotors redrilled to 4x100

ITR Calipers or 91-94 Accord Wagon calipers

Do you have to use the T23 or T25 mounting bracket from the accord wagon or the ITR or does the mounting bracket from the EX knuckle work with the ITR caliper or accord wagon caliper for this upgrade?

Some threads and sites ive read say it bolts right up and other threads and sites say that you have to shave 3mm off the caliper bracket but does not state which caliper bracket..... the stock EX bracket or the ITR Bracket or all of them need 3mm shaved off and I should just stay with the stock EX bracket so I dont have to pay a grip for the T23 and T25 brackets????

I know this has been covered a bunch of times but I dont feel the threads covering the subject got to the point. Maybe I missed something and somone can point me to a thread thats proven or website that would be great, or if someone out there has done the swap and knows even better.

I want to buy the right parts the fist time so I dont end up wasting money and with some help id love to do a write up on this with pics. Thanks everyone.

Old 09-20-2007, 04:43 AM
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Default Re: EX Knuckles 11" big brake conversion (Street Racer X)

You can also use Legend calipers. I used the bracket that came with my ITR calipers milled 2.5mm and have been using the setup on track for a little over 2 years. No issues no problems.
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Default Re: EX Knuckles 11" big brake conversion (Street Racer X)

I'll be doing a write up on this with pics to accompany the one that's already in the faq....I hope to get started this evening.
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Default Re: EX Knuckles 11" big brake conversion (Trakhor)

Type-R calipers are not all that expensive, its getting the expensive caliper brackets that im trying to avoid, im thinking about picking up the calipers and prelude rotors and shaving the EX brackets and see how that combo works, if it doesnt looks like im just gonna have to bite the bullet and get the T23 or T25 brackets.
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Default Re: EX Knuckles 11" big brake conversion (Street Racer X)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Street Racer X &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Ive searched and read tons of threads and this is what ive came up with as far as EX knuckles go:

11" 93-96 Prelude VTEC rotors redrilled to 4x100

ITR Calipers or 91-94 Accord Wagon calipers</TD></TR></TABLE>
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by CRX Toad &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You can also use Legend calipers </TD></TR></TABLE>
the itr calipers are stamped: 1 7 C L 1 5 V N
Street Racer X, you can use the accord wagon calipers & as CRX Toad mentioned, the Legend calipers will work as well. the 17CL15VN caliper can also be found in junkyards (i.e., +97 prelude, accord, cr-v, vigor, rl, tl, cl, odyssey, etc). get the ITR calipers with the brackets


<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Street Racer X &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Do you have to use the T23 or T25 mounting bracket from the accord wagon or the ITR or does the mounting bracket from the EX knuckle work with the ITR caliper or accord wagon caliper for this upgrade?
</TD></TR></TABLE> you'll need the 23T or 25T bracket

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Street Racer X &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Some threads and sites ive read say it bolts right up and other threads and sites say that you have to shave 3mm off the caliper bracket but does not state which caliper bracket..... the stock EX bracket or the ITR Bracket or all of them need 3mm shaved off and I should just stay with the stock EX bracket so I dont have to pay a grip for the T23 and T25 brackets????</TD></TR></TABLE>

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by CRX Toad &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I used the bracket that came with my ITR calipers milled 2.5mm and have been using the setup on track for a little over 2 years. No issues no problems. </TD></TR></TABLE>

the itr calipers are not a bolt-on. the bolt pattern for the bracket & knuckle are the SAME, but the offset is different. if you were to try to bolt it on directly, the bracket would get caught on the rotor & the wheel would not be able to spin. the 23T (or 25T) bracket will need to be sent to the machine shop, where they'll mill approxiamately 2-3 mm (or 1/8") off (where the bracket mates with the knuckle).

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Street Racer X &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> if someone out there has done the swap and knows even better.</TD></TR></TABLE>

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1484555

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=734560

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1811368

the milled 23T (or 25T) allows you to use the ITR caliper (1-pot), legend GS (2-pot) or NSX calipers w/ 11" rotors on EX knuckles; they all share the same size pads

* * pm BrakeExpert, he machines brackets, re-drills rotors & specializes in OEM honda brake upgrades
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Default Re: EX Knuckles 11" big brake conversion (roastbeefrichie)

Why bring this back from the dead?


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Default Re: EX Knuckles 11" big brake conversion (Street Racer X)

Originally Posted by roastbeefrichie
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Street Racer X &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Ive searched and read tons of threads and this is what ive came up with as far as EX knuckles go:

11" 93-96 Prelude VTEC rotors redrilled to 4x100

ITR Calipers or 91-94 Accord Wagon calipers</TD></TR></TABLE>
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by CRX Toad &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You can also use Legend calipers </TD></TR></TABLE>
the itr calipers are stamped: 1 7 C L 1 5 V N
Street Racer X, you can use the accord wagon calipers & as CRX Toad mentioned, the Legend calipers will work as well. the 17CL15VN caliper can also be found in junkyards (i.e., +97 prelude, accord, cr-v, vigor, rl, tl, cl, odyssey, etc). get the ITR calipers with the brackets


<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Street Racer X &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Do you have to use the T23 or T25 mounting bracket from the accord wagon or the ITR or does the mounting bracket from the EX knuckle work with the ITR caliper or accord wagon caliper for this upgrade?
</TD></TR></TABLE> you'll need the 23T or 25T bracket

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Street Racer X &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Some threads and sites ive read say it bolts right up and other threads and sites say that you have to shave 3mm off the caliper bracket but does not state which caliper bracket..... the stock EX bracket or the ITR Bracket or all of them need 3mm shaved off and I should just stay with the stock EX bracket so I dont have to pay a grip for the T23 and T25 brackets????</TD></TR></TABLE>

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by CRX Toad &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I used the bracket that came with my ITR calipers milled 2.5mm and have been using the setup on track for a little over 2 years. No issues no problems. </TD></TR></TABLE>

the itr calipers are not a bolt-on. the bolt pattern for the bracket & knuckle are the SAME, but the offset is different. if you were to try to bolt it on directly, the bracket would get caught on the rotor & the wheel would not be able to spin. the 23T (or 25T) bracket will need to be sent to the machine shop, where they'll mill approxiamately 2-3 mm (or 1/8") off (where the bracket mates with the knuckle).

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Street Racer X &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> if someone out there has done the swap and knows even better.</TD></TR></TABLE>

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1484555

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=734560

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1811368

the milled 23T (or 25T) allows you to use the ITR caliper (1-pot), legend GS (2-pot) or NSX calipers w/ 11" rotors on EX knuckles; they all share the same size pads

* * pm BrakeExpert, he machines brackets, re-drills rotors & specializes in OEM honda brake upgrades
necro bump.
this is the most complete info i've seen on the brake swap... why isn't this in the faq as well? someone needs to update the faq...
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fastbrakes.com problem soved
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Originally Posted by seriousboarder
fastbrakes.com problem soved
$500 aftermarket brake setup > same thing but OEM and $300 cheaper...???

i don't get it
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Default Re: EX Knuckles 11" big brake conversion (Street Racer X)

Originally Posted by Canadian_EF
necro bump.
this is the most complete info i've seen on the brake swap... why isn't this in the faq as well? someone needs to update the faq...
First off do NOT bump things! Secondly it is in the FAQ. Way to look
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