**** Dyno of my Mildly Built D16 old vs new, plus vs a B16 ******
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A little SOHC D16 love here.
My old set up was Run #3, the Red Line
SMSP D16 Prototype header w/ 2-1/4" outlet into
a 2-1/4" 300 cell spun body cat into
a Greddy 60mm B pipe into
a 2-1/2" Magnaflow muffler
Gude Cam (.405" lift)
AEM adjustable cam gear
Skunk2 IM
ITR TB - 62mm
Head had a medium port job by DFE (I'll let DonF explain all he did or didn't do)
Stock A6 valves and valvetrain
P29 +.25mm pistons (.040" in the hole) block work by DFE
Stock rods resized w/ ARP bolts by DFE
ARP head studs
Stock Crank polished by Justice Racing Engines
Hondata S200, Tuned by SGT
Then I did the following upgrades.
Installed new Honda OEM valve stem seals
Installed new Honda OEM valve springs since I didn't know the history of the other stock ones.
Installed a Delta 272 cam since I wanted more mid range
I stripped a bolt out from the old AEM cam gear which only had 3, so I purchased a very nice 6 bolt unit from Skunk2, thanks to the Skunk2 guys
Replaced the ITR TB, which was overkill, to a 60mm TB from a LS
Final tuned run with upgrades is #13, the Blue Line

Just to see the difference tuning makes, here is my baseline vs best.

Now Chris at ProMotion had done some testing on a stock B16, so we over layed the graphs. B16 is the Red Line. So much for vtec
My old set up was Run #3, the Red Line
SMSP D16 Prototype header w/ 2-1/4" outlet into
a 2-1/4" 300 cell spun body cat into
a Greddy 60mm B pipe into
a 2-1/2" Magnaflow muffler
Gude Cam (.405" lift)
AEM adjustable cam gear
Skunk2 IM
ITR TB - 62mm
Head had a medium port job by DFE (I'll let DonF explain all he did or didn't do)
Stock A6 valves and valvetrain
P29 +.25mm pistons (.040" in the hole) block work by DFE
Stock rods resized w/ ARP bolts by DFE
ARP head studs
Stock Crank polished by Justice Racing Engines
Hondata S200, Tuned by SGT
Then I did the following upgrades.
Installed new Honda OEM valve stem seals
Installed new Honda OEM valve springs since I didn't know the history of the other stock ones.
Installed a Delta 272 cam since I wanted more mid range
I stripped a bolt out from the old AEM cam gear which only had 3, so I purchased a very nice 6 bolt unit from Skunk2, thanks to the Skunk2 guys
Replaced the ITR TB, which was overkill, to a 60mm TB from a LS
Final tuned run with upgrades is #13, the Blue Line

Just to see the difference tuning makes, here is my baseline vs best.

Now Chris at ProMotion had done some testing on a stock B16, so we over layed the graphs. B16 is the Red Line. So much for vtec
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DonF »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">That is going to be a nice 30MPG 4DR street car. Isabelle is going to like it.
Really nice TQ curve. </TD></TR></TABLE>
She asks why it's so loud.
Really nice TQ curve. </TD></TR></TABLE>She asks why it's so loud.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nonvtecD »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I bet the gears of the B16 make it faster in a race
That's a lot of sohc power, very nice.</TD></TR></TABLE>
It's an EG Si tranny except with a EF Si 5th gear with a 4.25 FD
Ratio
1st 3.250
2nd 1.900
3rd 1.250
4th 0.909
5th 0.771
I'll need to look up the 99-01 Si gear ratios.
That's a lot of sohc power, very nice.</TD></TR></TABLE>It's an EG Si tranny except with a EF Si 5th gear with a 4.25 FD
Ratio
1st 3.250
2nd 1.900
3rd 1.250
4th 0.909
5th 0.771
I'll need to look up the 99-01 Si gear ratios.
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frozen carbon dioxide; converts from solid to gas around -80C I believe. IE. Very very cold.
frozen carbon dioxide; converts from solid to gas around -80C I believe. IE. Very very cold.
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removing tar and other substances from your car
removing tar and other substances from your car
Great stuff
Does that cam make power past stock redline? I am running a similar setup, less a different cam profile.
< note to self, ask for a coated SMSP header for birthday >
Does that cam make power past stock redline? I am running a similar setup, less a different cam profile.
< note to self, ask for a coated SMSP header for birthday >
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by busychild »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Great stuff
Does that cam make power past stock redline? I am running a similar setup, less a different cam profile.
< note to self, ask for a coated SMSP header for birthday >
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OK, here's the same header as above but on a bone stock D16A6
Does that cam make power past stock redline? I am running a similar setup, less a different cam profile.
< note to self, ask for a coated SMSP header for birthday >
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OK, here's the same header as above but on a bone stock D16A6





