Hey everyone.

This writeup is about switching from the 1997 USDM ITR rear calipers to the 1998 rear calipers. The reasoning for this is price, and anyone with a 97 looking to replace their old and busted or worn out calipers with some fresh OEMs will be dissapointed two fold, as there are no OEM Honda remanufactured rear calipers for the ITR, AND, the 1997 ITR rear calipers cost a small fortune (and more than twice as much!) in comparison to the 1998+.

Lets look at some prices:

First off, 1997 ITR rear calipers are sold as the Body Set, and Bracket separately, not as a complete ready to bolt on set like the 1998s. The prices are:

6 43012-ST3-E50 BODY SET, R. RR. 1 1997 INTEGRA 392.63 314.10

7 43013-ST3-E50 BODY SET, L. RR. 1 1997 INTEGRA 392.63 314.10

and the brackets are:

8 43014-SN7-G00 BRACKET SET, R. RR. 1 1997 INTEGRA 113.27 90.62

9 43015-SN7-G00 BRACKET SET, L. RR. 1 1997 INTEGRA 116.82 93.46

So for new rear 1997 calipers: ~$808!!!

So I gave Len at Baranco Acura parts a call, and he said he would go ahead and order both a 97 and 98 from the same side, compare them and get back to me. He told me the only difference he could see was the bracket mounting holes to the rear trailing arm were different (so the 97 brackets would have to be used on the 98 caliper) and that you would have to run the 1998 rear brake lines. I'm in the process of replacing much of the worn suspension and brakes, so I was already planning on ordering new lines, but lets take a look at some numbers anyway.

Unfortunately the 1998 caliper prices dont show up on the parts catalog at http://www.barancoacuraparts.com, but its roughly $160 per side, and they come WITH the brackets (so 97s get totally screwed). The brake hoses which are needed as well run $35 a side.

The total for the rears on the 1998 specs are roughly $390.

<U>Running the 98 calipers on the 97 ITRs</U>

So in order to run the 98 calipers, you must buy the 98 rear calipers from each side, the 98 lines (they mount at a different angle than the 97s) and the 97 brackets (which are ~$90 a peice).

The total once converted to the 98 model rear calipers is ~$570. So you'll save about $230 using the 98 calipers with 98 lines and 97 brackets. Obviously its still a small fortune to replace the rear calipers, but for sticklers of OEM (or in my case bought the car with some 3rd party cheapo parts that cause funky wear and noises its still $230 that you can keep in your pocket).

One other note I forgot to add, switch the pins out as well, take the pins from the 98 brackets and transfer them to the 97s because the caliper holds the pin from rotating when tightening the 12mm bolts, but the 98 calipers dont have that, the pins have 17mm hex on them for that purpose.

Hopefully anyone needing new OEM rear calipers on their 97 will find this useful. I certainly did as I prefer OEM Honda, but the 97 rear caliper prices are to be laughed at.

The good news is Len was correct and everything bolts up with no problems! http://www.barancoacuraparts.com Hopefully everyone knows how to use the parts calalog

Now on with the pictures so you can see the perfect fitment!

Same pad placement, nothing is off:



The difference in brackets, 1997 on the left, 1998 on the right, mounting holes clearly different:



Handbrake cable still lines up the same:



The rotor to caliper clearance, perfect, no rubbing and same clearance on each side of the rotor:







Modified by KOALA YUMMIES at 7:06 PM 7/2/2006

 

KY FTW!

 

cool stuff Scott

 

Cool beans. Being a 97 owner, I may find this useful

Did you look at the 2000 and 2001 parts list to check the part numbers?

 

Damn, those are shiny new calipers.

 

interesting

couldnt you have opted for a rebuild kit instead of entirely new clappers? (Im not sure if the rebuild kit is available for rears).

 

this is an excellent note to keep in mind that is specific to itr literature for future knowledge...big thanks bud!

im wondering if this then would also apply to '96 spec' JDM ITRs?

 

I never knew that 97 was different than 98's.. . Good info

 

damn bling bling extended studs also damn

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by KOALA YUMMIES &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">....and that you would have to run the 1998 rear brake lines.

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Hrmmm...This probably explains why the brake lines on my hatch are all fugged up tight in the back.

And companies like Technafit only list their application for TYTE-Rs from 1998+

http://www.raceshopper.com/tec...shtml

I always knew they were a little different, but struggled to find the exact reason....Awesome to finally know.

 

Interesting info for sure .

On a side note, what rotors are you running? My Brembo blanks rusted to **** in under a month . Performance is still great though but they look like ***

 

Ya, I remember going through something simular to this back in 98 over Speed Bleeders. The 97 ITR application was a different part # for F/R, where as all other 98+ ITR's were the same F/R.

-Victor

 

assuming this is going on a 97R, then you could re-use the 97R caliper brakets.??

(i know the threadstarter issues with aftermarket brakes, just a statement for other 97 R that would be interested in this.}

 

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(i know the threadstarter issues with aftermarket brakes, just a statement for other 97 R that would be interested in this.}</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yes they're totally reusable. Assuming the sliding pin boots are in good conditon and greased up inside then theres no reason to buy new ones, the 98+ caliper body will bolt right on.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by white rocket &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Interesting info for sure .

On a side note, what rotors are you running? My Brembo blanks rusted to **** in under a month . Performance is still great though but they look like *** </TD></TR></TABLE>

They're the Cobalt GT3000 (or whatever they sell) rotors. Not really necessary but I was ordering all new pads and needed new rotors so I went for them.

 

Awesome post for all the 97 car owners. I'm sure a few out there could use replacement.

 

Awesome write up! I was thinking of the same thing but never got access to the parts to compare. Thanks for the confirmation!

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Petah &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Awesome write up!</TD></TR></TABLE>

Kick *** write up dood. Definitely should be put in the archived FAQs for everyone to know. As far as anyone curious about certain parts and wanting to know if they're interchangeable and if we can test them prior to purchase, call me. Let me know and give me some time and I'll do the same for you guys. Saves us all $$$$!

Len

 

Scott, your **** is blingin!!!

 

Looks like you have Lowdowns. How old are they and how do you keep them that clean?

Nice write up. I am researching brake lines and etc and I am really begining to hate all the little differences btw the model years.

 

nice write up and pics!

 

What about the front calipers? Are there any differences? I was looking for the answer in a thread I made and was directed here.

Link to my thread
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread/1681621

Thanks.

 

I'll check into that tomorrow once I get full access to my work computer.

 

nice write-up!! and i noticed the extended studs too

 

Koala says that the front uses 25T brackets, not the 23T found on the 98+ ITR's. So I think I'm good as long as the brackets are 23T. However, when I checked Acura brake diagrams, there aren't are noticeable differences.

1997 Acura Integra Type R


2001 Acura Integra Type R

 

Part Numbers for 1997, 1998, 2000, 2001 Integra Type R Front Calipers:

Remanufactured Units:

06452-SM5-505RM CALIPER SUB-ASSY., R. FR. (RMD)
06453-SM5-505RM CALIPER SUB-ASSY., L. FR. (RMD)

New units are no longer available.