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vtecphean 10-26-2010 07:11 PM

tire stretch help
 
whats up honda tech i have a set of deep dish steelies for a while now sittin in my room just finished my coupe im thinkin whats a good tier size to strech it out help me out thanks.

98civdx 10-26-2010 07:21 PM

Re: tire stretch help
 
How wide is the wheel? And why are you stretching your tires? You do know it is unsafe, right?

vtecphean 10-26-2010 07:27 PM

Re: tire stretch help
 

Originally Posted by 98civdx (Post 43869296)
How wide is the wheel? And why are you stretching your tires? You do know it is unsafe, right?

no i dident no that how so? but the wheel is a 15x8 with a 13.5 offset i believe and if streching it is bad what tier should i put?

nsxtasy 10-26-2010 07:54 PM

Re: tire stretch help
 
"Stretching" - mounting tires on rims that are too wide for the tire size - is unsafe because excessive heat and stress can develop in the sidewalls, leading to a significant risk of tire failure (popping off the bead or a plain old blowout). DON'T DO IT.

This is why you need to FIRST find out what tire size is best for your car, and THEN find out what width wheels it can be mounted on safely. Don't just buy rims first and pray you don't have a catastophe as a result.

What kind of car do you have (year, model, version)?

vtecphean 10-26-2010 09:18 PM

Re: tire stretch help
 

Originally Posted by nsxtasy (Post 43869612)
"Stretching" - mounting tires on rims that are too wide for the tire size - is unsafe because excessive heat and stress can develop in the sidewalls, leading to a significant risk of tire failure (popping off the bead or a plain old blowout). DON'T DO IT.

This is why you need to FIRST find out what tire size is best for your car, and THEN find out what width wheels it can be mounted on safely. Don't just buy rims first and pray you don't have a catastophe as a result.

What kind of car do you have (year, model, version)?

yeah you right thats why im hear askin what i should do i have a a 1995 honda civic ex coupe and a set of diamond racing deep dish steelies 15x8 with a 13.5 offset i believe i have a set of 195/50/15 but i like the look of the lip poping out thats what i was goin for

vtecphean 10-26-2010 09:21 PM

Re: tire stretch help
 
i have camber kits for the front and back to so rubbing shouldent be a problem

eghatch9295 10-26-2010 10:41 PM

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tire stretching= retarded fad.

bkindness 10-27-2010 12:16 AM

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tire stretching= retarded fad.? why?

nsxtasy 10-27-2010 04:56 AM

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Maybe because it's dangerous. You can do whatever you want to make your car look however you want - looks are a matter of personal taste - but I can't understand why someone would do something that could give them a serious risk of having an accident caused by a tire blowing out. That's why most knowledgeable tire shops will refuse to mount the tires on rims that are too wide (but unfortunately there are also a lot of people working in tire shops that don't know a whole lot about tires).

195/50-15 is the best 15" tire size for a '95 Civic, but I would never, never, NEVER mount them on 15x8 rims. The best thing you can do for your car is to sell the rims and get some that are 15x6, 15x6.5, or 15x7.

vtecphean 10-27-2010 07:59 AM

Re: tire stretch help
 
i have another set of wheels i just wana put these for looks not all year round wheels

vtecphean 10-27-2010 11:05 AM

Re: tire stretch help
 
so what tire should i use i no its bad to ride them but i wont be useing them all the time so it dont matter

dpetro1 10-27-2010 11:35 AM

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15x8 +13.5 isnt going to fit your 95 civic without rubbing and major suspension modifaction. do yourself and your car a favor and just listen to nsxtasy and get proper fitting wheels/tires.

TunerN00b 10-27-2010 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by vtecphean (Post 43874134)
so what tire should i use i no its bad to ride them but i wont be useing them all the time so it dont matter

For a 15x8, 225/45-15 can be used.

vtecphean 10-27-2010 12:05 PM

Re: tire stretch help
 

Originally Posted by dpetro1 (Post 43874399)
15x8 +13.5 isnt going to fit your 95 civic without rubbing and major suspension modifaction. do yourself and your car a favor and just listen to nsxtasy and get proper fitting wheels/tires.

i have full suspension camber kits so thats not a problem

TunerN00b 10-27-2010 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by vtecphean (Post 43874641)
i have full suspension camber kits so thats not a problem

The +13.5 offset is going to be the problem, unless you like this look:
http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...u1-612x409.jpg

vtecphean 10-27-2010 02:38 PM

Re: tire stretch help
 

Originally Posted by TunerN00b (Post 43874873)
The +13.5 offset is going to be the problem, unless you like this look:
http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...u1-612x409.jpg

its not gonna look like that ill post pics when wheels are on

98civdx 10-27-2010 08:17 PM

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You need to listen to the people, they have tons more experience then you.

So you have camber kits? Big deal. Your still going to have to roll the fenders, OR have a stupid amount of camber.
Which, one is going to eat your tires, 2, looks stupid, 3, dangerous, 4, come on' why not put wheels and tires that were actually meant to fit your car, without haveing to make modifactions to it.

Hellaflush, or what ever the hell you want to call it is stupid, ugly and dangerous, period.

eghatch9295 10-28-2010 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by bkindness (Post 43870907)
tire stretching= retarded fad.? why?

because its a trend, and a dangerous one. rusted hoods are on the out, 90% of roof rack owners are too fat and lazy to actually RIDE a bike, the list of examples of stupid trends could stretch a mile. despite the trendiness of rust and racks, neither of them actually effects your vehicle's safety or performance. do whatever you want, just do me a favor and die somewhere other than the chicago area. i dont want to be stuck in 3 hours of traffic because you lost control of your form over function modified car. moron.

92civiceg9gsr 10-28-2010 02:35 AM

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I believe that form follows function. If your going to run wide wheels... run wide tires. If you need to stretch/roll/pull the wheel arches do it. But there is a reason for wide tires and thats for more grip. Do you road race the car? Autocross? Drag race? I doubt all of the above. The reason you want wide wheels is to look like someone who does participate in an autosport.

ziggy hatch 10-28-2010 08:48 AM

Re: tire stretch help
 
hey guys i know im new here but i know a lil about stretching tires. ive had plenty of 15 x 8 wheels and i have run 185 50 and 195 50 on them with no problems. ive also had 15 x 9 ran 205 50. did a few canyon runs and driven from so cal to san jose. i think if the guy isnt an agressive drive he will be fine.

one thing vtecphean you should know. im not sure how much neg. camber you are going to need but it will ware your tires much faster.

good luck cant wait to see pix

lsturbo33 11-02-2010 01:24 PM

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195-45-15. It's his car let him mod it how he wants. The 50s you have will be fine. Neither will have much strech like you want on a 15x8. If you car is "SLAMMED" and you run camber to fit the wheels then don't expect it to ride good on the street.

nsxtasy 11-03-2010 05:34 AM

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Originally Posted by ziggy hatch (Post 43882115)
hey guys i know im new here but i know a lil about stretching tires.

No, you don't know ANYTHING because the advice you give is UNSAFE. Many, many tires blow out or pop the bead with the tire size and wheel size you mention. Maybe yours didn't and you were lucky, but plenty of them do fail. Please don't post such unsafe, ignorant advice on the forums.


Originally Posted by lsturbo33 (Post 43919083)
195-45-15. It's his car let him mod it how he wants.

He can do whatever he wants, but it's UNSAFE to mount that tire size on 15x8 wheels. And it's worth pointing out here that it's unsafe.

spAdam 11-11-2010 09:23 AM

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Starting to see a lot of this my area, it makes me real nervous.

+13 on 8" wide wheel? Seriously? There is no way you can fit that in the fenders without some crazy camber. If you want an 8" wheel look for something in the neighborhood of +25-35 and expect to roll/pull the fenders and to not be able to turn the wheel to full lock. Even if you ran no fenders and got the camber straight with a +13 the scrub radius is screwed and the car is going to be annoying as hell (and unpredictable) to drive.

Three things you should never half-ass on your car: Tires, brakes, and seatbelts. They're the only things between your butt and the pavement. If you don't have the knowledge of exactly what problems a modification can cause, then you shouldn't touch it.

I'm afraid a lot of these people would put hand-knitted seatbelts and airbags full of nails in their cars if someone said it looked sweet.


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