Strange Tire Wear
Hey guys I am having a wierd problem with tire wear. I am lowered on eibach pro kit and tokico illuminas and had an alignment done. Here were the results. The alignment was done in march so it has been about 6 months.
Front Camber Left -1.1* Front Camber Right -1.8* Rear Camber Left -2.2* Rear Camber Right -2.6* Front Toe Left 0* Front Toe Right 0* Rear Toe Left .07* Rear Toe Right 0* Thrust Angle .03* * = Degrees Now heres my problem. The rear left (drivers rear) tire has abnormal wear. It wore fine except all the way in on the inside of the tire. The very very inside of the tire looked like it was scraping against the ground and not rolling. It was maybe 1" wide and 1/2" in on the tire all the way around that was bald. All the three other tires wear perfectly normal. It wore so much that I got a blowout and ruined my Bridgestone S-03. I know I have a lot of camber in the rear but the passenger rear looks fine. My guess is the .07* toe (positive value is out or in? I am guessing out) caused the excessive wear. The thing is, I want to make sure that is the problem before I go ruin another set of tires. Right now I have some cheap ass replacement on there so I dont ruin another expensive tire. I think I am going to shim the rear to get the camber in spec, get 4 new tires and go for an alignment. Is .07 degrees excessive toe that would cause this wear or is it something else? Thanks |
Re: Strange Tire Wear (TurboEM1)
0.07' is minimal. But why do you have that much rear negative camber? That is just killing tires for nothing.
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Re: Strange Tire Wear (gogogomoveit)
camber does not kill tires, toe does. Camber will exagerate any toe problems you have but it wont kill tires. As you can see in the right rear i have more negative camber but normal wear since the toe is spot on.
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Re: Strange Tire Wear (gogogomoveit)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by gogogomoveit »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">0.07' is minimal. But why do you have that much rear negative camber? That is just killing tires for nothing. </TD></TR></TABLE>
https://img237.imageshack.us/img237/8304/stfuud9.jpg Camber doesn't wear out tires if the toe is zeroed out. Period. If you just lower your car without getting an alignment your camber will increase + your toe will also be thrown off = bad tire wear. In this case, there is something else going on. |
Re: Strange Tire Wear (fast95eg8)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by fast95eg8 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
https://img237.imageshack.us/img237/8304/stfuud9.jpg Camber doesn't wear out tires if the toe is zeroed out. Period. If you just lower your car without getting an alignment your camber will increase + your toe will also be thrown off = bad tire wear. In this case, there is something else going on.</TD></TR></TABLE> Camber WILL take it's toll on your tires over time. It just doesn't wear out your tires as fast as incorrect toe does. |
Re: Strange Tire Wear (EK k kay)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EK k kay »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Camber WILL take it's toll on your tires over time. It just doesn't wear out your tires as fast as incorrect toe does.</TD></TR></TABLE>
https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/emthup.gif ..couldn't have said it better myself....i have a hard time believing that .07 toe out would chew up a tire that fast though.. |
Re: Strange Tire Wear (fast95eg8)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by fast95eg8 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
https://img237.imageshack.us/img237/8304/stfuud9.jpg Camber doesn't wear out tires if the toe is zeroed out. Period. If you just lower your car without getting an alignment your camber will increase + your toe will also be thrown off = bad tire wear. In this case, there is something else going on.</TD></TR></TABLE> Nice image. But learn your crap first. https://honda-tech.com/forums/images...s/emthdown.gif |
Re: Strange Tire Wear (gogogomoveit)
How long is "over time" then?
I was running 2 degrees of camber for a whole year with 0 toe (did my own alignment at the shop) and my tires were evenly worn (barely) |
Re: Strange Tire Wear (fast95eg8)
I went throuh about 4/32 of tread to a hole in the tire in 6 months
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Re: Strange Tire Wear (TurboEM1)
Are you sure it's the alignment?
Maybe that wear is being caused by rubbing (perhaps by oversized tires). Did you take that tire off and look for wear in the fender well? Just a thought... |
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