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Old Jan 23, 2010 | 04:13 PM
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Hey guys looking for a good set of tires for the coming spring and summer. What would be good tires to go with from your experiences? I dont really want to spend more than $500 for them so no more than $125 a tire and wet weather traction is not much of an issue (hardly ever rains here) The size i will be using is 215/40/17 they will be going on my black momo corse rpms.
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Old Jan 23, 2010 | 04:23 PM
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Old Jan 23, 2010 | 04:26 PM
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try sumitomo htrz iii, they only come in 215/45/17 though $83 a tire, i just mounted these on my rims.
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Old Jan 23, 2010 | 04:59 PM
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yoko s drives...
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Old Jan 23, 2010 | 05:18 PM
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hmm well my experiences with federal were not that great had the ss595's last summer and wore through them in 1 summer. Just a few track days, few race events, and daily driven. A friend of mine has the s. drives and he swears by them and where could i get or order sumitomos? never even herd of them.
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Old Jan 23, 2010 | 07:24 PM
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It seems that 40 series tires are getting less common for whatever reason. I recently had to replace my 215/40R17 Goodyear Eagle F1 GS-D3's (great tire), and they discontinued it in that size (well, most sizes in this case). I opted for the Michelin Pilot Sport A/S Plus in a 205/45ZR17 as they too were not available in a 40 series. Granted both these tires are a little more than you were looking to spend, but if you're getting a new set of tires, I would consider looking at a 205/45 tire. If the stock size was 205/50R16, the 45's are actually a little closer in overall diameter too. If you don't have a place to get tires, I recommend America's Tire (Discount Tire); they carry just about every brand and have very competitive pricing (they will also price match if you can find a lower price, including online + shipping). Been getting my tires there for about 4 years now.
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Old Jan 23, 2010 | 07:56 PM
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I've heard good things about the Dunlop Direzza sport z1.Good traction and they wear out pretty good.Another tire to consider is the falken Azenis rt615.
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Old Jan 24, 2010 | 09:45 AM
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We need more information before answering your question.

1. What kind of car (year, model, version) is this for?

2. How do you plan to use it? Any autocross or racetrack use, or just street driving?

3. No use in snow?

4. How would you trade off performance vs value? More specifically - If you have a choice between (a) a tire that gives you superb traction, but is a little more expensive and lasts 15-20K miles, or (b) a tire that gives you good traction but not as good as the previous ones, but costs a little less and lasts you twice as many miles (30-40K miles), which would you choose?

Answer these questions and we can tell you the best tire for your needs.
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Old Jan 24, 2010 | 11:21 AM
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ya ya no problem.
1. Car is 93' Prelude Si.

2.It is my DD and will see quite a few trips to the drag strip. No auto X cant find anything locally.

3. Nope i have seperate wheels and tires for the other seasons.

4. I want a tire that gets "good" traction. Not the best, and i dont mind if they only last 15K - 20K, generally i want as good or better tread wear as my old ss595's which were treadwear 240 i believe. Im just in a tight situation right now and need to get off my snow tires cause... theres no snow.
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Old Jan 24, 2010 | 03:57 PM
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Old Jan 24, 2010 | 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by niterider96cord
ya ya no problem.
1. Car is 93' Prelude Si.

2.It is my DD and will see quite a few trips to the drag strip. No auto X cant find anything locally.

3. Nope i have seperate wheels and tires for the other seasons.

4. I want a tire that gets "good" traction. Not the best, and i dont mind if they only last 15K - 20K, generally i want as good or better tread wear as my old ss595's which were treadwear 240 i believe. Im just in a tight situation right now and need to get off my snow tires cause... theres no snow.


The stickiest tires you can get in 215/40-17 are the Yokohama Advan Neova AD08, but that exceeds your stated budget (it's $162/tire plus shipping at the Tire Rack) and the Dunlop Direzza Sport Z1 Star Spec, which is just barely over your budget ($127/tire plus shipping at the Tire Rack, $132/tire with free shipping at Discount Tire Direct). The Star Spec is a great tire and will give you everything you're looking for, including decent traction at the dragstrip. It should last you 15-20K miles. That's what I'd recommend.

If you want to spend less, you can get the Falken Azenis RT-615, which is $103/tire with free shipping at Discount Tire Direct, plus there's an $80 rebate which brings your total cost down to $332. They're sticky but not quite as sticky as the Star Spec, and they won't last as long (figure 10-12K miles). But if you're looking to minimize your cash outlay right now, they will save you a couple hundred bucks over the Star Specs.
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Old Jan 25, 2010 | 07:03 PM
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Hey thanx. Any one to vouch for Dunlop Direzza Sport Z1 Star Spec??
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Old Jan 26, 2010 | 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted by niterider96cord
Hey thanx. Any one to vouch for Dunlop Direzza Sport Z1 Star Spec??
Star spec's are the **** especially for the price I wouldn't hesitate to buy these tires any day. I have ran them before and they are well worth the money.
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Old Jan 31, 2010 | 10:46 AM
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Old Jan 31, 2010 | 11:56 AM
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I have Hankook K106's right now because they came with the wheels I bought. They're the best tire's I've ever had but all of my others were all season. They're listed as high performance tires and they also have ultra high performance tires which I may try once these are worn out.
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Old Jan 31, 2010 | 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by chaloux
POTENZA RE-11
Those aren't available in 215/40-17.

Originally Posted by stevenDAtegra
I have Hankook K106's right now because they came with the wheels I bought. They're the best tire's I've ever had but all of my others were all season. They're listed as high performance tires and they also have ultra high performance tires which I may try once these are worn out.
The tires discussed in this topic are much, much, MUCH stickier than the K106. They are considered "extreme performance summer tires". Hankook makes one of these supersticky tires, called the Ventus R-S3 Z222, but it is not available in the sizes that most of our cars use.
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Old Jan 31, 2010 | 06:28 PM
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i had neogens on my last 2 cars and my cousin ran them on his spec-v. Damn good tire in the rain, i could throw that thing around some corners and they took em like a champ. I got 40k miles out of mine too.
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Old Feb 1, 2010 | 04:04 AM
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vouch for star specs..have them and i love them
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Old Feb 1, 2010 | 05:53 AM
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Originally Posted by 1.5Slowmatic
neogens
The NeoGen is an all-season tire. Like all-seasons, it is designed for the added flexibility of use on snow and in extreme cold; in exchange, it doesn't grip as well in winter conditions as winter tires, and it doesn't grip as well in moderate to warm temperatures as the summer tires we're talking about here, either in rain or on dry pavement.
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Old Feb 1, 2010 | 06:47 AM
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Originally Posted by nsxtasy
The NeoGen is an all-season tire. Like all-seasons, it is designed for the added flexibility of use on snow and in extreme cold; in exchange, it doesn't grip as well in winter conditions as winter tires, and it doesn't grip as well in moderate to warm temperatures as the summer tires we're talking about here, either in rain or on dry pavement.
Neogens are definitely not up to the dry traction levels of Dunlop Z1 Star Specs. I've only used Star Specs in the dry and was happy with them. I really dislike G-force sports for their wet performance.
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Old Feb 1, 2010 | 04:19 PM
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Alright thanks for your help guys. Star specs it is, at $126 a tire is BARELY more than i wanted to pay.
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Old Feb 1, 2010 | 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by nsxtasy
The NeoGen is an all-season tire. Like all-seasons, it is designed for the added flexibility of use on snow and in extreme cold; in exchange, it doesn't grip as well in winter conditions as winter tires, and it doesn't grip as well in moderate to warm temperatures as the summer tires we're talking about here, either in rain or on dry pavement.
i beg to differ on the summer part. i've been in cars with summer tires in them and driven them. Almost identical suspensions setups and my neogens did just fine. In the rain, MUCH better than the other cars. They really do kick *** in the rain no matter what they are rated for. I agree they suck in winter but we're not here to discuss winter tires. For the treadwear rating on them i personally think they are hard to beat. plus being asymmetrical is a plus of them
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Old Feb 1, 2010 | 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by 1.5Slowmatic
i beg to differ on the summer part.
You can differ all you want. I've known a lot of people who used tires with inferior or compromised traction and were very happy with them. But it is FACT: all-season tires (including the Neogen) do not grip as well in moderate to warm temperatures as summer tires do. That's why you'll find lots of people using Star Specs and other supersticky summer tires at autocross and track events, and nobody using those all-season Neogens. What does that tell you?

It sounds like you've never tried any of these "extreme performance summer tires". You ought to. It will really open your eyes. You'll never settle for Neogens again, LOL!

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Old Feb 2, 2010 | 08:37 AM
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look into getting some yokohama s drives
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Old Feb 2, 2010 | 08:41 AM
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Originally Posted by boxeocampeon
look into getting some yokohama s drives
The S.drive is a moderately-priced longer-lasting summer tire, and is a good choice for those looking for a tire offering decent performance and good value for daily driving in non-winter conditions. However, it does not offer as high a level of traction/performance as the "extreme performance summer tires" mentioned above.
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